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The Ad Navseam podcast, where Classical gourmands can finally get their fill. Join hosts Dr. David Noe and Dr. Jeff Winkle for a lively discussion of Greco-Roman civilization stretching from the Minoans and Mycenaeans, through the Renaissance, and right down to the present.

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    • 4.9 • 80 Ratings

The Ad Navseam podcast, where Classical gourmands can finally get their fill. Join hosts Dr. David Noe and Dr. Jeff Winkle for a lively discussion of Greco-Roman civilization stretching from the Minoans and Mycenaeans, through the Renaissance, and right down to the present.

    H.I. Marrou’s A History of Education in Antiquity, Part XI (Ad Navseam, Episode 153)

    H.I. Marrou’s A History of Education in Antiquity, Part XI (Ad Navseam, Episode 153)

    This week the guys wrap up the second portion of Marrou's chapter on the ancient ephebia, that system of education for youth ages 14-21 that was popularized by the city of Athens and which spread to more than 100 cities around the Mediterranean during the Hellenistic era. What were the features of this system, and how did they vary from polis to polis? What happened when the generosity of local benefactors, euergetes, couldn't be tapped anymore for resources? How did public funding come into play? What about all of those multiplied titles, the various underlings who supervised the various underlings who supervised the athletes? If you are interested in golf, polo, tennis, and the aristocracy, this is one you won't want to miss.

    • 1 hr 10 min
    H.I. Marrou’s A History of Education in Antiquity, Part X (Ad Navseam, Episode 152)

    H.I. Marrou’s A History of Education in Antiquity, Part X (Ad Navseam, Episode 152)

    This week the guys are back into Marrou and off into the history of education during the Hellenistic Era. Contrary to what one might think, following the transformation of the world after the conquests of Alexander, the world of education did not become centralized and governed from on high by the potentates of succeeding dynasties. In fact there was eclectic mix (as does befit this time period) of things happening--certainly a recognition that the State did have an interest in fostering education (especially of the elites) but largely in a hands-off manner that left decisions to local municipalities; a shift away from private to public education but also with a "throw-back" emphasis on a sporting/military ideal at the same time; Athens now a vassal state of the Macedonians but still held up as the model of what higher education should be. Tune in, and remember, if you're still short a few credits it's never too late to go back and finish up your ephebia. Wait, actually it might be.

    • 1 hr 25 min
    Hiss and Tell!: Lucian of Samosata's Alexander the False Prophet, Part 2 (Ad Navseam, Episode 151)

    Hiss and Tell!: Lucian of Samosata's Alexander the False Prophet, Part 2 (Ad Navseam, Episode 151)

    Dave and Jeff are off to Abonoteichus this week to wrap up Lucian of Samosata's crazy account of Alexander the False Prophet. If you like crazy, you're going to love this episode. It has a bit of everything: Big Sid the Standale Terror, Jeff's dad sporting with fugitive serpents, the origin of mustard, food trucks, snakes in a can, and so much more. And, oh yeah, Classics. As the Second Sophisitic (c. 60-230 A.D.) got into full swing, Lucian emerged as the most successful satirist, detaling the foibles of the rich, the famous, and the divine. In this conclusion to our treatment of his lesser-known story, we find out what happened when Alexander of the flowing locks teamed up with shyster apprentice Cocconas. Will they go a-bilking in Paphlygonia -- with their fake eggs, rumors of Asclepius, and puppet snakes -- or are the "fatheads" more numerous in Chalcedon? Tune in to find out.

    • 1 hr 14 min
    Hissterical!: Lucian of Samosata's Alexander the False Prophet, Part 1 (Ad Navseam, Episode 150)

    Hissterical!: Lucian of Samosata's Alexander the False Prophet, Part 1 (Ad Navseam, Episode 150)

    This week Jeff and Dave take a break from the Marrou series to talk about 2nd century A.D. satirist Lucian of Samosata. Born in the further reaches of Asia Minor, Lucian made a name for himself as a Greek stylist by making fun of the rich and powerful, including the gods. Many claim him as the inventor of the science fiction genre because of his most famous work, A True Story. This fantastic voyage seems to anticipate Jules Verne and H.G. Wells by almost 2000 years! But the subject of this episode is Lucian's take on the fraudulent shyster Alexander, a good looking chap (with great hair) who worships a snake god leads and many astray. But what exactly is Lucian doing? Is this all a game to entertain the elite, or is he trying to educate the gullible away from belief in the supernatural and paranormal? And, what do Erasmus and Thomas More have to do with it all? Be sure to tune in.

    • 1 hr 5 min
    H.I. Marrou’s A History of Education in Antiquity, Part IX (Ad Navseam, Episode 149)

    H.I. Marrou’s A History of Education in Antiquity, Part IX (Ad Navseam, Episode 149)

    This week Jeff and Dave continue on with Marrou's clues, finishing up the last portion of Chapter VII, Part I, Isocrates, and taking on all of Chapter I, Part II, "The Civilization of the Paideia". For Isocrates, the comparison to Plato continues, particularly with respect to the question of the teaching and inculcation of virtue. Is it possible, and if so, how is it done? Don't miss Marrou's thought-provoking concluding remarks on the relationship between P and I, how they "enriched the classical tradition without disturbing its unity." In the next portion, the guys get into the question of paideia, an old and storied concept. Specifically, how does culture, according to Marrou, become religion, and how is this a part of Alexander's enduring influence? Finally, the theme of the whole second portion of the episode focuses on how classical education took on its finalized, concrete form during the Hellenistic era (323-31 B.C.), and "thereafter it underwent no substantial change".

    • 1 hr 19 min
    H.I. Marrou’s A History of Education in Antiquity, Part VIII (Ad Navseam, Episode 148)

    H.I. Marrou’s A History of Education in Antiquity, Part VIII (Ad Navseam, Episode 148)

    Isocrates, Yousocrates, Hesocrates? This week Jeff and Dave are back at it with the work of H. I. Marrou and education in antiquity. Here they tackle the last bit of Part I of the book, Chapter VII, and the groundbreaking "humanist" Isocrates. Born in 436, he spent the first part of his career as a "hired gun" speech-writer, before developing an influential -- and profitable -- school for rhetoric. But if you have never heard of this guy, no wonder. He has spent the last two millennia trying to creep out from beneath Plato's massive shadow. So just what is the purpose of rhetoric and dialectic? Is it to get to the truth, à la Plato, or should we veer more toward Isocrates' perspective, that rhetoric, honed by literary study, develops us into persons who are moral and useful to the state? Isocrates certainly had the time to develop his ideas, as he championed nascent Panhellenism to the rip old age of 98! Along the way, the hits keep coming, and the fallout from Jeff's opening pun is massive. Finally, don't miss the tease about how Plato spent his last days, link.

    • 1 hr 6 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
80 Ratings

80 Ratings

Matt from Portland ,

Smart & Funny(?) - Smunny

So I’m sure you think the classics are supposed to be boring and taught by the guy from Ferris Bueller’s Day Off (Bueller… Bueller…) and if that’s what you WANT don’t listen to these guys. If, on the other hand, you’re interested in the classics AND appreciate witty repartee then listen away!

I was turned on to this podcast by a friend (of Ratio coffee fame) after my kids started attending a classical school. I have been encouraged by this podcast to pick up a few of these classic books myself. Keep up the good work gents!

Mango of the rainwings ,

13 years old and I love it

Mom listens to this a lot and I enjoyed it so much I started listening on my own.(My favorite is Ghosts to Show ya)

Wonderpuppy ,

Entertaining and Educational

I'm a Baby Boomer who took a few years of Latin forty years ago, but I have always retained a love for the language. My dream would be to become fluent, but given other priorities in my life, that's not likely to happen. In the mean time, I dabble in Latin a bit and satisfy my desire to learn more of it via this fabulous podcast. The hosts are clearly knowlegeable and obviously love the Latin language. I look forward to each new episode!

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