Distributed.

Jack Hannah, Tuple

Remote work is here to stay. Whether you’re firmly in the return to office camp or die hard distributed, the cat’s out of the bag for the industry. The Distributed podcast, from Tuple, deconstructs how world-class engineers and their teams navigate the challenges (and opportunities) remote work creates. Host Jack Hannah uncovers stories of teams and individuals overcoming technical challenges, working through interpersonal dynamics, and battling their own distractions. Through these conversations, we’ll unpack the practical side of how folks work together in this new normal, and dig into the social emotional piece so often overlooked in programming.

  1. 7小时前

    Why Jeff Langr thinks mob programming beats solo work every time

    In this episode of the Distributed podcast, host Jack Hannah talks with Jeff Langr, a software coach, author, and longtime XP advocate. Jeff has helped teams across dozens of companies navigate Agile, pairing, and collaborative programming practices. Jack and Jeff dig into the surprising downsides of traditional agile software development and how mob programming offers a more inclusive and sustainable way to work. Jeff also shares what works (and doesn’t) about return-to-office efforts and why many organizations are failing to support effective remote collaboration. Highlights: The two rules for making mob programming effectiveRotations, engagement, and how to avoid team lead dominanceHow Jeff helped skeptics embrace mobbing In this episode, we cover: (00:00) – Kicking things off with Jeff Langr (01:20) – Why mob programming beats solo and pair workflows (04:15) – Reducing work in progress to boost team flow (06:12) – The hidden time costs of traditional agile rituals (08:53) – What makes mob programming a bad choice (14:26) – How to keep everyone engaged (in-person vs remote) (18:35) – The two rules every mob team should follow (23:48) – Navigating fear and vulnerability in mobbing (24:26) – Turning a skeptic into a mob programming advocate (25:41) – Why return-to-office pushes often reflect leadership failure  Where to connect further: Connect with Jeff Langr on LinkedIn and his website Follow Tuple Want to hear more? Check out distributed.fm Connect with Jack Hannah

    29 分钟
  2. 8月7日

    Woody Zuill on the future of mob programming, AI, and effectiveness

    In this episode of the Distributed podcast, host Jack Hannah sits down with Woody Zuill, the programmer, coach, and speaker best known for popularizing mob programming. Rather than rehashing the basics of mob programming, Woody talks about what it means to focus on effectiveness instead of productivity and what management gets all wrong. Woody shares insights from decades of experience coaching teams around the world and explains how to create environments that allow real collaboration to flourish. Highlights: The philosophy behind mob programming and software teamingWhy effectiveness matters more than productivityHow AI affects how teams collaborate In this episode, we cover: (00:00) – Kicking things off with Woody Zuill (01:10) – The Robert Henri quote that frames Woody’s philosophy (03:16) – Letting teams self-organize and experiment with how they work freely (07:41) – Cutting a 500-bug backlog to 17 by working closely as a team (10:11) – Why separating teams by specialty fragments doesn’t work (12:22) – Productivity vs. effectiveness and who software is really for (14:55) – Figuring out what matters through doing, not managing (17:26) – Will AI replace teams or change how they collaborate? (19:12) – The role of AI in software development and teamwork (22:03) – Woody’s advice to new engineers and how to shape better workplaces References Jack’s favorite talk from Woody: Mob Programming: A Whole Team Approach Lean Software Development by Mary Poppendieck and Tom Poppendieck The Art of Computer Programming by Donald Knuth The 4 Stages of Psychological Safety by Timothy Clark Teaming by Amy Edmondson Where to connect further: Connect with Woody Zuill on LinkedIn and on his website Follow Tuple Want to hear more? Check out distributed.fm Connect with Jack Hannah

    27 分钟
  3. 7月24日

    Lessons from 300+ videos on mob programming with Chris Lucian and Austin Chadwick

    In this episode of Distributed, host Jack Hannah talks to Chris Lucian and Austin Chadwick, the creators of the Mob Mentality Show and longtime engineering leaders at Hunter Industries. Chris, Director of Global Software Development, and Austin, Distinguished Engineer, reflect on mob programming and how practices spread. They open up about what it takes to protect team culture while growing, discuss lessons from their 300+ videos on mob programming and agile, and how AI is just another member of the mob. Highlights: How mob programming went from one team’s experiment to org-wide practiceWhat Chris and Austin learned from publishing 300+ episodes on agile and XPHow AI fits into social coding and the future of pairing and mobbing In this episode, we cover: (00:00) – Kicking things off with Chris Lucian and Austin Chadwick (01:52) – Rearranging cubicles to make pairing possible (03:09) – The first mob and why it worked (05:01) – Repairing a wonky relationship with the product owner (06:14) – Austin’s first mob and learning a new language on the fly (07:41) – The Mob Mentality Show origin story (09:22) – How Chris and Austin keep their episodes lean and sustainable (12:17) – Diffusion of innovation and spreading practices (15:18) – AI-generated code with domain languages (18:41) – Growing the mob through cellular division while keeping culture (24:49) – What to do when there are no internal XP mentors (28:12) – Using AI like another member of the mob (32:26) – Will AI replace pair and mob programming?  References The Mob Mentality Show Human & AI Collaboration in Mob Programming with Aaron Griffith and Parker Barrett Where to connect further: Connect with Chris Lucian on LinkedIn Connect with Austin Chadwick on LinkedIn  Follow Tuple Want to hear more? Check out distributed.fm Connect with Jack Hannah

    35 分钟
  4. 7月10日

    Cofounder & CTO of Geordie AI on the paradox of giving control with Benji Weber

    In this episode of the Distributed podcast, host Jack Hannah is joined by Benji Weber, Cofounder & CTO at Geordie AI, to discuss leadership and autonomy in engineering teams. Benji shares his unique perspective on how managers can empower teams to take control of their work. They explore how the paradox of giving control plays out in practice and what it means for team ownership and performance. Highlights: - How managers can create environments that foster ownership - The challenges of balancing control with autonomy in fast-growing teams - How Benji empowers teams through curiosity and gentle nudging In this episode, we cover: (00:00) – Introduction to Benji Weber (01:23) – Benji’s take on professional pride and leadership (03:54) – Mindgard’s small team setup and remote-first approach (04:55) – Balancing in-person work with a remote-first culture (06:12) – The paradox of giving control to teams (07:07) – Coercion vs. nudging in leadership practices (08:39) – What it looks like to empower teams through curiosity (10:56) – Creating an environment for teams to own their work (14:17) – Tackling organizational reliability challenges with team autonomy (16:22) – Fostering agency in teams through self-discovery and retrospectives (18:15) – Why pair programming can be a powerful tool in small teams (23:46) – Approaching continuous integration and the value of real CI (26:43) – The trade-offs between consistency and flexibility in team practices (29:38) – Finding the right balance between synchronous and asynchronous work. Where to connect further: Connect with Benji Weber on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/benjiweber/) and on his website (https://benjiweber.co.uk/) Follow Tuple: https://x.com/tuple Want to hear more? Check out http://distributed.fm Connect with Jack Hannah: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-hannah/

    33 分钟
  5. 7月3日

    Inside the 3rd largest Rails monolith in the world with Cisco Tech Lead Ed Gibbs

    How do you drive change in large engineering teams? In this episode of the Distributed podcast, host Jack Hannah talks with Ed Gibbs, Software Engineering Tech Lead at Cisco Meraki, about his journey from physics to software engineering and how he’s championed better development practices over the years. Ed shares insights on navigating remote work, driving incremental adoption of engineering improvements, and fostering collaboration in large-scale teams. Ed also discusses the role of experimentation in engineering culture, the benefits of meandering syncs over traditional standups, and the challenges of balancing refactoring with delivery in a complex codebase. Highlights: Why Ed Gibbs wears a fez every Friday and how it helps him succeedLessons from scaling change across 1,000+ dev organizationsThe engineering rituals that help his teams excel, like meandering syncs and mobbing Mondays In this episode, we cover: (00:00) – Kicking things off with Ed Gibbs (01:03) – The origin story of Fez Friday and making remote work memorable (07:04) – Inside Ed’s fully remote team setup at Cisco Meraki (09:26) – The early days of TDD and what made it stick (12:04) – Introducing CI and getting buy-in for testing (17:16) – How to drive consensus across a 1000-engineer company (23:46) – Team habits Ed is proud of, from Kanban to mobbing Mondays (30:06) – What meandering syncs are and how they work References: Blog post on meandering syncs: Stand-Up Meetings Are Dead (and What to Do Instead) Where to connect further: Connect with Ed Gibbs on LinkedIn and his website Follow Tuple Want to hear more? Check out distributed.fm Connect with Jack Hannah

    41 分钟
  6. 6月26日

    Principal Engineer at Salesforce on collaborative programming with James Simone

    On this episode of the Distributed podcast, host Jack Hannah talks with James Simone, Principal Engineer at Salesforce, about how he went from no development experience to principal engineer in 7 years at a Fortune 500 and the effects of collaborative programming.  James shares what things are like inside the agile org at Salesforce and how they approach remote work, including how they prioritize reflection and team agreements to foster productive and happy work environments. Highlights: James's journey to principal engineer The role of reflection in boosting productivity and happinessSalesforce's approach to ensemble and pair programming  In this episode, we cover: (00:00) – Kicking things off with James Simone (01:09) – The empowerment of distributed teams: fostering community and learning (03:08) – Inside Salesforce's agile organization: a structural overview (04:17) – Legacy projects and measuring developer happiness (06:07) – Applying metrics: individual and executive perspectives (08:52) – Collaborative programming: a measured approach (11:03) – Starting the week: Monday morning routines (12:56) – Code review: transitioning from author to reviewer (14:26) – The role of working agreements in team dynamics (17:05) – Reflection and improvement: the impact of test-driven development (22:36) – Documentation and decision-making in collaborative teams (27:48) – Balancing career growth with personal life passions References Test Driven Development: By Example by Kent Beck Domain Modeling Made Function by Scott Wlaschin Where to connect further: Connect with James Simone on LinkedIn and on his website Follow Tuple Want to hear more? Check out distributed.fm Connect with Jack Hannah

    31 分钟
  7. 6月19日

    6x founder and Shopify Principal Engineer on AI, Rails, and pairing with Obie Fernandez

    In this episode of the Distributed podcast, host Jack Hannah sits down with Obie Fernandez, Principal Engineer at Shopify, 6x founder (including Andela and Hashrocket), and prolific author and musician. Obie reflects on his early role in the Ruby and Rails communities, what led him to shift away from Java, and how he uses and thinks about AI. Obie goes deep on how he and his team at Shopify uses AI, while touching on what this means for pair programming, mentorship, and the future of software development. Highlights: How Obie made Rails mainstream at ThoughtWorks and beyondHow Obie and Shopify use AIReflections on pair programming and the future of software development In this episode, we cover: (00:00) – Opening the conversation with Obie Fernandez (01:59) – What made Ruby stand out after years of Java (07:45) – Driving Rails’ adoption at ThoughtWorks and shaking up the status quo (15:54) – How Shopify thinks about the developer experience (20:19) – Why every developer should experience pair programming (25:03) – How Obie uses AI (27:15) – The future of software development and collaboration (33:13) – When to stop vibe coding and prioritize quality (34:04) – Big P vs little p pair programming References: Patterns of Application Development Using AI Shopify CEO Tobi Lutke's now infamous AI memo Where to connect further: Connect with Obie Fernandez on Instagram and obiefernandez.com Follow Tuple Want to hear more? Check out distributed.fm Connect with Jack Hannah

    39 分钟

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Remote work is here to stay. Whether you’re firmly in the return to office camp or die hard distributed, the cat’s out of the bag for the industry. The Distributed podcast, from Tuple, deconstructs how world-class engineers and their teams navigate the challenges (and opportunities) remote work creates. Host Jack Hannah uncovers stories of teams and individuals overcoming technical challenges, working through interpersonal dynamics, and battling their own distractions. Through these conversations, we’ll unpack the practical side of how folks work together in this new normal, and dig into the social emotional piece so often overlooked in programming.

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