AI and the Future of Work Dan Turchin

What does it mean to be human when your colleague's a bot? Can AI ever truly understand us? This week, we're thrilled to welcome Gary F Bengier, eBay's first CFO and author of the award-winning novel, Unfettered Journey, as we dive into the future of work and the role of AI. Gary's background in Silicon Valley and his understanding of AI and technology make him the perfect guest to shed light on the ethical implications of AI, the potential impact of large language models on business, and the crucial differences between symbolic software and large language models.

As we unpack the World Economic Forum's prediction that AI will generate 97 million new jobs while eliminating 85 million in the next three years, Gary and I contemplate the implications of machines and humans working together. We discuss the possibility that robots could eventually build robot factories, detaching the output of the economic system from labor hours, and explore the question of sentience in the age of advanced technology. Join us for an important conversation and peer into the mind of one of the great philosophers and technologists of our time.

Oh, and learn what Gary says is a better definition for the acronym "LLM" :).

References in this episode:
Tiernan Ray on AI and the Future of WorkWow... ChatGPT is very thirsty!The Santa Fe InstituteGary's book Unfettered Journey

The current Hollywood writers strike is the highest profile example of shifting dynamics in the entertainment industry. Studios are spending less to produce more content. Fees paid to writers have plummeted. Generative AI is only accelerating the trend. This has profound implications for the future of storytelling.
Today’s guest is an expert in the entertainment industry having founded Divisadero Pictures in 2011 to advise entertainment companies from Disney to Comcast to Microsoft on strategy and finance topics. Daniel Davila received his MFA from USC and his MBA from Stanford. 
For historical perspective, today is only the second episode in more than 190 where we’ve discussed AI and the future of the work in the entertainment industry. For long-time listeners the last time was episode 87 back in April 21 with Michael Solomon and Rishon Blumberg, authors of Game Changer: How to be 10x in the Talent Economy, who  managed Bruce Springsteen and John Mayer in a previous life.
Thank you to friend of the podcast Matthew Perez for the introduction to Daniel.
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The history of media consumption patternsThe economics of the entertainment industryHow AI is changing the entertainment industryHow Daniel used generative AI tools to write a 70-page movie scriptDaniel's pitch to Francis Ford Coppola about the role of AI in movie-makingThe impact of streaming on media production and consumptionThe bias inherent in text to image tools like MidjourneyReferences in this episode...
Michael and Rishon, Bruce Springsteen's former managers, on AI and the Future of WorkDivisadero PicturesThe Hollywood writers strike

Guru Banavar is the founding CTO of Viome where he helped raise $150M from a list of top-tier investors including Khosla Ventures and Bold Capital Group. Viome offers insights into health and disease using host and microbiome gene expression. Guru led the development of a first-of-a-kind saliva-based early detection system for oral and throat cancers which won the FDA’s designation as a breakthrough device.
Prior to Viome, Guru was a global VP & Chief Science Officer at IBM and the founding VP of the Watson AI Research team.
Guru has received many awards including a Leadership in Technology Management Award and a National Innovation Award from the President of India. He has published extensively and holds more than 35 US patents. His work has been featured in media outlets including the New York Times, the Economist, the Wall Street Journal, BBC, and NPR.
Listen and learn… 
Why our healthspan is more important than our lifespan How DNA to RNA transcription determines your health state How to sequence your mRNA to understand how to optimize your diet and predict disease risk What AI techniques can be used to develop personalized treatments How to use data that varies across patients to make automated decisions for all patients How Guru thinks about false positive prescriptions as a scientist when health and safety are at stake Where the FDA is regulating how AI is used to make healthcare recommendations Why it’s impossible to know the best diet for you without first understanding the composition of your microbiome How to use biomarkers to turn your biological fingerprint into a data problem Guru’s perspective on the ethical and philosophical implications of extending the healthspan How digital twins will help perfect the ability to engineer biology References in this episode… 
What it means to practice responsible AIThe KEGG ontology of biological pathways The Viome blog Dr. Shiv Rao, CEO of Abridge, on AI and the Future of Work

Today’s guests are using machine learning to turn real world data from past interactions into insights. Dr. Hyde is the co-founder and CEO of Atropos Health which has commercialized the insights exchange for healthcare.

Dr. Hyde raised a $14M series in August 2022 from an exceptional group of investors including Breyer Capital and Emerson Capital.

Dr. Hyde is joined by an early user of Atropos, Dr. John Halamka, President of the Mayo Clinic Platform. Dr. Halamka has been developing and implementing healthcare information strategy and policy for more than 25 years. He specializes in artificial intelligence, the adoption of electronic health records and the secure sharing of healthcare data for care coordination, population health, and quality improvement. He was elected to the National Academy of Medicine in 2020.
For AI and the Future of Work trivia buffs this is one of only three episodes we’ve recorded with multiple guests. The last one with Tooso founders Ciro Greco and Jacopo Tagliabue was one of our most memorable.
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Why ChatGPT shouldn't be used for medical diagnosesHow Atropos uses healthcare data from the Mayo Clinic Platform combined with AI to assist caregiversHow to use AI to automate the research that can otherwise takes weeks or monthsHow the lack of access to data-driven recommendations leads to dangerous patient outcomesWho is responsible when AI makes a bad decision that adversely impacts a patientHow to use NLP to remove PII to make it usable by AI (and certify data hygiene)The challenges of managing patient data at scale in a way that complies with HIPAA regulationsReferences in this episode...
ChatGPT's phenomenal adoption rate... by the numbersCiro and Jacopo from Tooso (acquired by Coveo) on AI and the Future of WorkPaddy Padmanabhan on AI and the Future of WorkDipanwita Das, Sorcero CEO, on AI and the Future of WorkThe Mayo Clinic PlatformAtropos Health

Dr. Shiv Rao is a cardiologist, teacher, former corporate VC, and the CEO of an exciting company that is changing how doctors help patients. Dr. Rao started Abridge in March 2018 to solve one of the biggest problems in healthcare. He has since raised $27M most recently in a $12.5M series A extension last August from leading investors including Bessemer, Union Square, Wittington Ventures, and legendary AI pioneer Yoshua Bengio.
Today we explore what happens when AI automates the error-prone task of doctors taking notes during patient visits. It’s easy to imagine a world where quality of ilife improves because doctors are present, focused on patient outcomes, and able to develop more genuine, human relationships while AI automates everything else.
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How much of a doctor’s time is spent not focused on patient care How AI can replace “pajama time” for doctors… and reduce burnout Why doctors require a 27-hour work day to deliver the quality of care patients expect How to use generative AI to assist doctors to capture better notes Who is responsible when AI makes mistakes that lead to incorrect diagnoses for patients Why AI won’t replace doctors… but doctors using AI may replace doctors not using it How Abridge reduces the risk of generative AI hallucinations How a design thinking lecture changed Dr. Rao’s life References in this episode… 
Paddy Padmabhan discusses the future of healthcare on AI and the Future of Work The Abridge homepage The open letter from Musk, Wozniak, and others to “slow down” the pace of AI development

Guillermo Corea is the Managing Director of the SHRM Workplace Innovation Lab and Venture Capital initiatives. He joined SHRM in 2015. He and his team are focused on finding and cultivating technologies that will impact the future of work. Guillermo’s team organizes the SHRM Better Workplaces Challenge Cup and Workplace Tech Accelerator plus they lead the organization’s impact investing program. Guillermo is a vocal leader in the HRTech community.  
This was a fun one because we got to record in person at SHRMTech 2023 in San Francisco. Only our fifth live recording in more than 190 episodes!
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How HR teams should drive workplace innovation Which Shark Tank shark is judging the Better Workplaces Challenge CupHow SHRM Labs connects tech entrepreneurs with HR leaders Why the CHRO is the most strategic exec in the C-suite How the pandemic and an aging employee population are creating opportunities for HRTech The technology Guillermo says will change work most in the next decade How to confront the problem of biased algorithms making HR decisions Why the HR blockchain will replace background check vendors The HRTech company Guillermo is ready to fund! References in this episode...
Reza Nazeman, former CIO of SAP Concur, on AI and the Future of WorkKamal Ahluwalia, Eightfold President, on AI and the Future of WorkJason Corsello, VA at Acadia Ventures, on AI and the Future of WorkSHRM Labs