48 episodes

They changed the world. So can you. Each week, award-winning journalist Aarti Shahani meets fascinating humans who've done big things. They answer two questions: (1) How does power work in the real world, anyway? (2) How has wielding power changed you?
The movement begins here.
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Art of Power WBEZ

    • Society & Culture
    • 4.8 • 204 Ratings

They changed the world. So can you. Each week, award-winning journalist Aarti Shahani meets fascinating humans who've done big things. They answer two questions: (1) How does power work in the real world, anyway? (2) How has wielding power changed you?
The movement begins here.
Listen now. Let your volcano erupt.

    Special: Shoes Off

    Special: Shoes Off

    WBEZ Chicago has a new podcast that we think Art of Power fans will enjoy. It's called Shoes Off: A Sexy Asians Podcast! It's a show celebrating badass Asians who are making a mark on pop culture and entertainment. Give it a listen!

    • 42 min
    Franklin Leonard finds the best scripts in Hollywood

    Franklin Leonard finds the best scripts in Hollywood

    His annual ‘Black List’ elevated films like ‘Juno,’ ‘Argo’ and ‘The King’s Speech.’ Now he wants to change how Hollywood finds its talent.
    Franklin Leonard tells Art of Power’s Aarti Shahani how his nerdy beginnings in Georgia set the precedent for his career as a revered film executive. He explains how creating his first 'Black List' broke an unwritten Hollywood rule, what show biz can learn from the NBA about finding the best talent, and the power of imagery in dismantling racism and asserting personhood.

    • 36 min
    Former ‘Roe’ attorney Gloria Allred on NDAs, empowering victims and a world without legal abortion

    Former ‘Roe’ attorney Gloria Allred on NDAs, empowering victims and a world without legal abortion

    Back in the 1960s – before Gloria Allred became one of America’s most prominent women’s rights attorneys – she says she was raped at gunpoint. She became pregnant and had a back-alley abortion that nearly killed her.
    “It did teach me a lesson,” Allred tells Art of Power host Aarti Shahani. “And the lesson is that abortion should be safe, legal, affordable and available.”
    In conversation with Shahani, Allred explains how that traumatic life event changed her worldview and preceded her decades-long career in civil rights law (10:20). She explains why she uses a cheeky sense of humor to get what she needs (4:30) and how she’s represented some of the most famed names in women’s rights, including “Jane Roe” of Roe v. Wade and O.J. Simpson’s ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson (14:35). Plus, Allred defends a long-standing practice she’s been criticized for: negotiating non-disclosure agreements (26:20).

    • 34 min
    Dolores Huerta on organizing, motherhood and ‘sexual coercion’ in her labor rights movement

    Dolores Huerta on organizing, motherhood and ‘sexual coercion’ in her labor rights movement

    She helped organize one of the largest labor movements in history, but her name is often left out of the narrative. As an organizer in the 1960s, Dolores Huerta says it was not always easy to assert her power.
    “As a woman, I had to do something about the way the women were being treated,” she told Art of Power’s Aarti Shahani.
    Huerta explains how she raised 11 children in voluntary poverty while leading a nationwide civil rights battle (01:45). She dissects the mechanics of the famous 1965 Delano grape boycott, including how she allied with some of America’s biggest leaders (13:50). And for the first time, she reveals how higher-ups within the organization handled an alleged case of what she calls “sexual coercion” less than gracefully (30:40).

    • 38 min
    ‘Hangover’ producer Scott Budnick cannot be pigeonholed

    ‘Hangover’ producer Scott Budnick cannot be pigeonholed

    Scott Budnick might be best known for producing The Hangover trilogy, one of the most successful R-rated comedy franchises ever. But making frat-boy comedies and spending years among ladder-climbers and clout-chasers in Hollywood left Budnick wanting.
    “I just felt empty inside,” he tells Art of Power’s Aarti Shahani.
    Budnick tells Shahani about the turn of events that led him to become one of California’s foremost advocates for criminal justice reform. He explains how he broke into the film industry — and then why he left it to found the non-profit Anti-Recidivism Coalition. And he describes his pivot back to creating films — including the 2019 Michael B. Jordan drama Just Mercy — through One Community, a production company with an explicitly political agenda.

    • 38 min
    How 'Queer Eye' Changed The Culture

    How 'Queer Eye' Changed The Culture

    'Queer Eye,' both the original version on Bravo and the newer Netflix reboot, is one of the most celebrated reality TV shows on the planet. But it was no sure thing.
    Creator David Collins tells Aarti Shahani the show's amazing creation story. He says God used him as a vessel to help gain cultural acceptance for the LGBTQ community. And he reflects on how others can do for their community what 'Queer Eye' has done for the LGBTQ+ movement.
    This episode was originally published on May 6, 2021.

    • 39 min

Customer Reviews

4.8 out of 5
204 Ratings

204 Ratings

Alex in Chicago ,

When is the next season being released?

Great show can’t wait to hear more

MarieLC67 ,

Love this!

I think Aarti Shahani is a very talented interviewer, and she gets her guests to reveal more than I think I have ever heard from any other interviewer.

Wantingfashion ,

Addicted to Art of Power

Can’t stop listening to this podcast! The guests have excelled in wildly varied fields, but Aarti keeps each episode focused on what is teachable from their journeys. She’s a warm but probing interviewer who can elicit new info from familiar figures. My fave guest so far is Audrey Tang, who blew my mind about the possibilities of direct, tech-enabled democracy. Also, why being non-binary is a superpower.

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