ATLalts

Andres Sandate
ATLalts

ATLalts is a podcast for independent RIAs and accredited investors interested in learning about alternative investments, private markets, and alternative asset classes through interviews with alternative asset managers, asset owners, and industry practitioners. ATLalts explores venture capital, private equity, real estate, private credit, infrastructure, crypto and digital assets, hedge funds, secondaries, ag- and timberland, and more specialized alternative assets such as specialty finance and collectibles.

  1. FEB 3

    DelCam Capital, LLC - Private Equity Redefined: Transparent Investing in American Manufacturing

    On this episode of the ATLalts podcast we explore the burgeoning opportunities in middle market private equity, particularly within the manufacturing sector in the United States, as articulated by the founders of Del Cam Capital. Joining us on the episode are Richard Gibble, Managing Director and Partner, Stephen 'Steve' Trotta, Managing Partner, and Stuart Chanin, Managing Director and Partner. I was joined this episode by the CEO and Founding Advisor of Gramercy Park Wealth Advisors, LLC, Brian Cote. Gramercy Park Wealth Advisors is where I recently affiliated and am building the Atlanta, GA market as a Financial Advisor and Head of Alternative Investments. Not included in the episode but a member of the Del Cam Capital team is Zachari Triner, Partner. As Head of Alternative Investments at Gramercy Park Wealth Advisors, I meet with alternative investments managers throughout the course of my work to learn more about their strategies and approach to private markets. Brian Cote and I met the Del Cam team in 2024 and we continue to explore opportunities in middle market private equity. The middle market represented 60% of deal flow in 2024 and the U.S. middle market accounts for one-third of the nation's economic output. 99% of middle-market companies are privately held and much like our previous episode with Fruition Capital, bears understanding if you are an investor seeking alternative investment opportunities in equity and credit. It is our view at Gramercy Park Wealth Advisors that private equity focused in the middle market could be particularly well-positioned in a higher for longer interest rate environment and given the Trump administration's domestic policy and fiscal priorities. On the episode with Del Cam Capital we delve into the concept of a "golden era" for manufacturing, driven by multiple macroeconomic factors and the strategic insights of our guests, Steve, Rich, and Stu. Their collective expertise reveals a transformative approach to private equity investment, emphasizing the importance of operational efficiencies, technological advancements, and the nurturing of enduring relationships within niche markets. Moreover, we examine Del Cam's distinctive methodologies for generating value post-acquisition, leveraging frameworks such as the Entrepreneurial Operating System (EOS) to foster accountability and drive employee engagement. Join us as we unpack these compelling narratives and gain invaluable perspectives on the future landscape of middle market private equity and its role in revitalizing American manufacturing. The Discussion Covered the Following Topics Introduction of the Team and Building Del Cam as a new Private Equity Platform Focused on ManufacturingThe Case for U.S. Manufacturing: A Golden EraMacro Tailwinds for U.S. Manufacturing (particularly relevant with tariffs being enacted in February 2025 with Canada and Mexico)Del Cam's Investment Processes including deal sourcing, due diligence, and post-acquisition value creationPortfolio Highlights of The Shortening Shuttle and Space Age Electronics Links referenced in this episode: delcamcapital.comgpwealthadvisors.comatlalts.comEOS Worldwide Companies mentioned in this episode: Gramercy Park Wealth Advisors, LLC Del Cam Capital, LLC Fidelity Investments Space Age Electronics Shortening Shuttle EOS Worldwide Learn more about DelCam Capital, LLC by contacting them: Del Cam Capital, LLC 101 Arch...

    1h 13m
  2. JAN 8

    Unlocking the Secrets of Acquisition Entrepreneurship: A Deep Dive with Jason Ehrlich

    The podcast features a deep dive into the world of small business acquisitions, highlighting the significant opportunity presented by the ongoing transfer of ownership from retiring Baby Boomers. What is acquisition entrepreneurship? It is the practice of searching for and buying established, profitable small businesses - usually from a retiring owner. Fruition Capital invests in these businesses. I invited Jason Ehrlich, Managing Partner of Fruition Capital on ATLalts to discuss why he believes investing in the acquisition of small businesses can allow investors to take advantage of what he believes are four key factors: Generational transfer of US small businesses owned by Baby Boomers is underway. Greater then 3 million profitable businesses owned by 65+ year-old owners will change hands in the next 5-10 yearsAttractive acquisition prices of 3x-5x avg. acquisition multiples (of EBITDA) for target businesses.Probability of failure is low as only 2.1% of SBA 7a Business Acquisition Loans defaulted in 2023The Chance of attractive performance is high as 75% of sesarch entrepreneur investors achieved an IRR of 20% according to one study. Jason Ehrlich, Managing Partner of Fruition Capital, discusses how his firm focuses on investing in B2B companies with stable earnings and a repeat customer base, which he refers to as "enduring profitability." The conversation emphasizes the attractive valuations available in this space, often at 3x-5x multiples of EBITDA, and the low failure rates associated with these businesses, particularly in the context of SBA 7a loans. Ehrlich also elaborates on the unique structure of Fruition Capital, which differentiates itself by partnering closely with entrepreneurs while providing significant capital and operational support. As the episode unfolds, listeners gain insights into the strategies and criteria that make Fruition Capital a leader in this niche market, ultimately aiming to preserve and grow local businesses in communities across the U.S. The impending retirement of Baby Boomer small business owners creates a unique landscape for investment, one that Fruition Capital is keen to navigate. Jason Ehrlich, managing partner of Fruition Capital, discusses the firm’s distinctive approach to acquiring established B2B companies that showcase not only a history of profitability but also a strong customer base. The podcast sheds light on the economic opportunities that arise from the generational shift in business ownership, particularly in light of the favorable valuations available—typically three to five times EBITDA for these enterprises. With a low default rate of approximately 2.1% on SBA 7(a) loans, the primary financing method for such acquisitions, investors are presented with a compelling case for entering this market. Ehrlich elaborates on Fruition Capital's stringent investment criteria, underscoring the firm’s commitment to stability and enduring profitability. By intentionally avoiding tech-heavy or cyclically volatile industries, Fruition ensures that its investments are grounded in businesses that have demonstrated resilience over time. The conversation also touches on the structural elements of deals, such as seller notes and equity rollovers, which serve to align the interests of the sellers and the new owners, thus facilitating a seamless transition of leadership while preserving the legacy of these local businesses. This model not only safeguards the interests of investors but also places the entrepreneurs in a position to succeed as they take the reins of these established firms. Furthermore, the episode highlights the broader societal impact of Fruition Capital's investment strategy. By empowering a new generation of entrepreneurs to take over small businesses, Fruition aims to keep jobs within local communities and foster economic stability. This commitment to community revitalization...

    1h 3m
  3. 10/24/2024

    BIS Benefits: Revolutionizing Group Health & Business Insurance through people, core values, and an award-winning workplace

    Drew Holley, Managing Partner of BIS Benefits, emphasizes the critical importance of employee benefits and health insurance in today's competitive business landscape, where retaining top talent is paramount. With a focus on serving clients with excellence, BIS Benefits has evolved into a one-stop shop for group health and business insurance since its inception in 1997. Drew shared how investing in growing and developing people and the organizational focus on mission, vision, and core values at BIS has allowed the firm to grow significantly. Drew shares insights on the growing need for businesses to review and adapt their insurance strategies, start the renewal process early, especially in a time of rising costs and changing market dynamics, and work with a trusted advisor. He highlights the significance of fostering strong relationships between business owners and their insurance advisors, ensuring proactive communication and support during critical moments. Listeners will gain valuable advice on navigating the complexities of employee benefits and the impact of proper coverage on workforce satisfaction and retention. Takeaways: Understanding the true costs of health insurance is essential for business owners today. Drew explains that affordability of healthcare plans directly impacts employee satisfaction and retention. People are everything to a business and by far the most critical asset. One of the most important factors employers can easily overlook is the importance of employee benefits.The insurance industry is evolving, with technology playing a crucial role in operations. More private equity has entered the space than ever before on both the brokerage and client side.BIS Benefits focuses on building relationships and providing exceptional service to their clients. Becoming the trusted advisor transforming each organization's approach, design and implementation of healthcare is the vision of BISBIS seeks to be a place where growth on the professional and personal level can take place and puts a significant emphasis on community, giving back, family, and moreHiring for values and personality fit is more important than industry experience in the insurance field. Links referenced in this episode: bisbenefits.com Companies mentioned in this episode: BIS Benefits State Farm Liberty Mutual Blue Cross Aetna United Travelers Hartford Innovative Outsourcing United Benefit Advisors

    57 min
  4. 10/11/2024

    Sreeni Prabhu, co-founder, Managing Partner, Co-CEO, and Group Chief Investment Officer, Angel Oak Capital Advisors, LLC (Angel Oak)

    Unlocking financial value through alternative credit is a central theme in this engaging conversation with Sreeni Prabhu, co-founder, Managing Partner, Co-CEO, and Group Chief Investment Officer at Angel Oak Capital. With a keen focus on the structured credit space, Sreeni discusses how Angel Oak, one of the largest securitizers of non-qualified mortgages in the nation, skillfully navigates market dynamics to create strategic long-term value for investors. He highlights the current opportunity in mortgage-backed securities (MBS), as inflation stabilizes and interest rates are expected to decline, presenting a historic chance to enhance fixed-income allocations. Furthermore, Sreeni elaborates on the burgeoning second lien mortgage market, emphasizing the significant equity homeowners possess and the untapped potential for strategic financing solutions. Through this episode, listeners will gain insights into the evolving landscape of fixed income and the innovative approaches that Angel Oak employs to meet the needs of both institutional and individual investors. Sreeni Prabhu, co-founder, Managing Partner, Co-CEO and Group Chief Investment Officer of Angel Oak Capital, shares his insights on alternative credit and the unique opportunities within the non-qualified mortgage sector during his conversation with ATLalts host and creator Andres Sandate. Beginning with his personal journey, Srinivas recounts his transition from a tennis player in India to a prominent figure in finance, highlighting the importance of networking, resilience, and a willingness to pursue an unconventional path. He emphasizes Angel Oak's strategic positioning as a leader in the mortgage-backed securities market, particularly in non-QM loans, and how the firm's comprehensive investment platform creates long-term value for its clients. As the discussion progresses, Sreeni delves into the current economic landscape, noting the potential for fixed-income investments amid declining interest rates and controlled inflation. He points out that mortgage-backed securities are trading at historically attractive spreads, presenting a compelling case for investors. The conversation underscores the significance of education in the financial sector, with Sreeni advocating for transparency and trust-building between Angel Oak and its clients. This commitment to educating advisors and investors is a cornerstone of the firm's strategy. The episode also explores the emerging second lien mortgage market, where homeowners can leverage their home equity for various financial needs. Sreeni highlights the substantial addressable market, estimated at $1.6 trillion, and discusses how Angel Oak is prepared to meet this demand with innovative financial products. As the episode concludes, Sreeni shares his vision for the future of Angel Oak Capital, emphasizing the need for a patient, long-term approach to investing in the ever-evolving financial landscape. Takeaways: Sreeni Prabhu's journey from India to Milledgeville, GA to leading a $20 billion asset management firm is inspiring for anyone pursuing their professional and personal interests, regardless of industry or career. Angel Oak's unique position in the mortgage-backed securities market offers compelling investment opportunities. The firm emphasizes a long-term perspective, focusing on sustainable growth and risk management. Understanding the second lien mortgage market can provide valuable insights for financial advisors. Investing in non-qualified mortgages offers significant potential returns in the current economic climate. Angel Oak's commitment to education and transparency enhances relationships with investors and advisors. Links referenced in this episode: a href="https://angeloakcapital.com" rel="noopener noreferrer"...

    1h 18m
  5. Marissa Kim, Head of Asset Management, Abra Capital Management

    05/28/2024

    Marissa Kim, Head of Asset Management, Abra Capital Management

    Marissa Kim is Head of Asset Management at Abra Capital Management (ACM), a SEC-registered investment advisor and subsidiary of Abra, a global platform for digital asset prime services and wealth management. In April 2024, Abra announced the launch of Abra Private (led by Marissa), which provides HNWIs, financial advisors, trusts, and family offices with a comprehensive suite of digital asset & wealth management solutions (all of which are powered by their expertise in DeFi – a key differentiator of the firm: Trade & Invest Clients can buy and sell 100+ digital assets with deep liquidity and low slippage through Abra including both crypto/fiat and crypto/crypto pairs Earn Yield Abra offers a variable yield on BTC, ETH, SOL and stablecoins through separately managed accounts (SMAs). Borrow Clients can borrow against their digital asset collateral to unlock liquidity. Customized Investment Strategies For more sophisticated clients, Abra can create customized delta-neutral portfolio strategies combining DeFi trading, lending and market-making. Abra’s RIA operates a separately managed account model, this is crucial for transparency and security, as clients are not liabilities on Abra’s balance sheet, and they retain title to their assets (i.e. they are never commingled – which has been a historic issue in crypto). Before Abra, Marissa founded Quantum Global Management, an investment firm focused on thematic investment in the building blocks of Web 3 and lending and DeFi strategies in digital assets and cofounded Ark Advisors, an advisory and investment firm focused on the digital asset space. Many HNWIs and accredited investors investing in crypto either hold bitcoin/ether or the spot ETFs, however, Abra Private is trying to educate sophisticated investors on how DeFi is powering a holistic set of asset and wealth management solutions that are better suited to the needs of sophisticated investors. Firm Summary Abra is a global platform for digital asset prime services and wealth management, leveraging trusted DeFi expertise to connect the on-chain and off-chain ecosystems for private clients and institutions. By integrating trading, borrowing, lending, yield services, and asset management into one offering, all underpinned by institutional risk management, Abra provides clients with actionable insights and a competitive edge. Abra’s client base includes a diverse range of private clients, family offices, hedge funds, venture capital, and crypto infrastructure firms.

    49 min

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ATLalts is a podcast for independent RIAs and accredited investors interested in learning about alternative investments, private markets, and alternative asset classes through interviews with alternative asset managers, asset owners, and industry practitioners. ATLalts explores venture capital, private equity, real estate, private credit, infrastructure, crypto and digital assets, hedge funds, secondaries, ag- and timberland, and more specialized alternative assets such as specialty finance and collectibles.

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