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Siblings celebrating and borderline obsessing over their favorite records.

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Siblings celebrating and borderline obsessing over their favorite records.

    Changes In Latitudes, Changes In Attitudes

    Changes In Latitudes, Changes In Attitudes

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    You can listen to Jimmy Buffett’s Changes In Latitudes, Changes In Attitudes on:

    Apple Music

    Or purchase Changes In Latitudes, Changes In Attitudes on:

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    Michael’s writeup on Jimmy Buffett’s A1A mentioned during the show.
    Kenny Chesney, the other artist that was on heavy rotation during family vacations while growing up.
    Only you can stop ruining songs by mindlessly repeating them:

    “Don’t Stop Believin’” by Journey, among the heaviest played Journey tracks and one which Michael famously detests as a result.
    “Yesterday” by The Beatles, among the heaviest played Beatles tracks and one which Marc famously detests as a result.

    Steve Goodman’s “Banana Republics”
    Jimmy Buffett’s autobiography A Pirate Looks at Fifty, which Michael references throughout the episode.
    “Johnathan Baham, songwriter of Lovely Cruise”, the BuffettNews.com forum discussion of the mysterious songwriter mentioned on the show.
    “In the Shelter”’s many appearances

    1971’s High Cumberland Jubilee
    1977’s Changes In Latitudes, Changes In Attitudes
    2003’s Meet Me in Margaritaville

    Jesse Winchester’s “Biloxi”
    The Toledo Blade front-page interview with Fingers Taylor on his departure from the band.


    “Key West is like an old dirty carpet; you shake it out and everything falls to the bottom. Everybody from the whole East Coast wound up at the end of the road in Key West at one point or another.”

    Jimmy Buffett quoting friend P.J. O’Rourke in the Delaney “I Have Found Me A Home” video interviews

    “The pavement runs out at the little village of Tambor, and we stop for cold drinks. Where the pavement ends and the dust begins is also the place where the time warp takes over. It has been only two days since we were opening Christmas presents in Palm Beach, but now we are bouncing along a dirt road in another world. When you are traveling on a trip like this in the right frame of mind, time and space will change. Things that seemed absolutely necessary two days ago slip from your mind. You find yourself looking out the window of the plane, boat, or car and daydreaming about going native. Time becomes something to be used, not saved. Many years ago, when I first experienced this feeling, I wrote a song about it called ‘Changes In Latitudes, Changes In Attitudes.’ It worked then, and it’s working now, as we drive west to the ocean in the land of pura vida.”

    Jimmy Buffett’s autobiography, A Pirate Looks at Fifty

    “As we drive to the airport the next morning [in Guadeloupe], we talk about the sentimentality we both seem to hold about the places we came from. Kino is a world traveler, but he is still attached to his roots in Guadeloupe. That kind of connection to the land is also a very Southern trait. I too move around the globe in an almost constant state of motion, but when I think of home, I think about Pascagoula and the eastern shore of Mobile Bay, not Long Island or Florida. Home is where you come from. It is not where you live at the present time, and though I doubt I will ever live in Alabama again, I will always think of it as home.”

    Jimmy Buffett’s autobiography, A Pirate Looks at Fifty

    Taylor is proud of the musical achievements of Buffett and the Coral Reefer Band, particularly the first three albums, but he feels that somewhere along the line their leader became more interested in making money and using gimmicks onstage than in making quality music.

    “We had a lot of fun, but we were always negotiating for more money and of course he’s never been one to let go of that stuff,” Taylor said. “I had some issues with him over money and a retirement fund, which we never had, although he did put a little something together for us eventually.”

    The concerts began to lose their appeal for Taylor.


    • 1 hr 7 min
    Infinite Arms

    Infinite Arms

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    You can listen to Band of Horses’ Infinite Arms on:

    Apple Music

    Or purchase Infinite Arms on:

    Amazon Music


    Marvis Pro, the iOS music player Michael mentioned using to see his play counts.
    Vacationer’s Relief, the only album that came close to Infinite Arms’s play count number in Michael’s library. You can read Michael’s previous review on the record here.
    Michael mentioned having a Fracture print of Infinite Arms, which is a picture printed directly on glass for a minimal, sleek presentation. This is his current collection.
    Sun Kil Moon’s Benji, the album Marc claimed to be a perfect foil to the easily digestible and repeatable Infinite Arms. You can listen to our previous discussion on the record in Episode 8.
    Band of Horses’ new lineup during Infinite Arms, and would remain unchanged for years—the first “true” Band of Horses lineup:

    Benjamin Bridwell
    Creighton Barret
    Ryan Monroe
    Bill Reynolds
    Tyler Ramsey

    The star at the center of the pivot point in the album art is Polaris (more commonly known as the “North Star”). The star seems to stand still in long exposure photography while the rest of the northern hemisphere stars spin around it due to the North Star being in a (mostly) direct line with the Earth’s rotational axis with respect to the North Pole.
    Christopher Wilson, the Photographer for Infinite Arms’s cover art and all the band’s album art up to that point. (information courtesy of the Albums app on iOS).
    Michael’s insane graph of “vibrancy”/”energy” by track number
    Infinite Arms was nominated for “Best Alternative Music Album” for the 53rd Grammy Awards in 2011, the same year Arcade Fire famously secured Album of the Year with The Suburbs. You can read Marc’s thoughts on The Suburbs here.
    Marc found “Factory” to share similarities with Paul McCartney and Wings’s “Let Me Roll It” off 1973’s Band on the Run and Vacationer’s “Turning” off 2018’s Mindset. You can read Marc’s review of Band on the Run here or listen to our discussion on Mindset in Episode 14.
    “Factory” utilizes both a Memotron and Theremin. The Theremin also appeared in Lord Huron’s “Love Like Ghosts” & “Way Out There” off 2015’s Strange Trails, and you can listen to our previous discussion on that record in Episode 2.
    Michael’s writeup on Jimmy Buffett’s A1A mentioned during the show can be found here, the finest publication on the site thus far.
    The Last Bison’s Quill, a record Michael felt was similar to “Compliments” since they both are high in character and charm in large part because of their imperfections.
    Grizzly Bear’s Yellow House, the record Marc felt similarly leaned into “everything & the kitchen sink” production.
    Eagles, a classic rock band Michael could very easily see playing “Laredo”
    ChrisCorradi’s comment on the “bullet in my Kai Lorenzo” lyric on genius.com
    “Band Of Horses Survived… Barely”, The SPIN interview Marc mentioned where Ben touches on his then-recent separation with his spouse.
    “Grumpy Old Men” (the 1993 film) and “Old City Bar” by Trans-Siberian Orchestra both evoked similar feelings and visuals in Michael as “Blue Beard”.
    The Explorer’s Club, a classic rock & roll and classic pop-influenced band that Marc found strikingly similar to Band of Horses’ experiments in “Blue Beard” and “Dilly”.
    “I need more cowbell!”
    Long in the Tooth and Repo Records referenced in the show are Marc’s favorite record haunts in the Philly area. Support your local music stores!
    Marc kept saying “Dilly” was very “70’s” but meant to say “60’s” (oops).
    Ludo’s “Good Will Hunting by Myself”, the song Michael mentioned takes the stereotypical “I’m better off without you, anyway” attitude from pop breakup songs and cranks it up to

    • 1 hr 29 min
    Christmas Portrait

    Christmas Portrait

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    You can listen to Carpenters’ Christmas Portrait on:

    Apple Music

    Or purchase Christmas Portrait on:

    Amazon Music


    Carpenters’ “Superstar”, featured in this classic car ride karaoke scene from Tommy Boy.
    Episode 3: “The Christmas Draft”, where Marc drafts “Merry Christmas Darling” & discusses at length with Michael & Aimee. Check it out for a more thorough discussion on the track.
    Brian Wilson & The Beach Boys

    Brian Wilson (self-titled, 1988). Certain segments and tracks on this record strongly resemble Richard’s on tracks like “It Came Upon A Midnight Clear”.
    That’s Why God Made the Radio (2012), which Michael felt too strongly resembled Richard’s vocal style (and not in a good way).

    We listened to Christmas Portrait (Special Edition) from 1984, which is a compilation of select tracks from…

    Christmas Portrait (original 1978 release)
    An Old-Fashioned Christmas (1984)

    Karen’s voice type is contralto, which is a somewhat rare vocal range you might recognize from artists like…

    Beach House’s Victoria Legrand

    May Crowning, you know, where songs like “Ave Maria” actually belong.
    “Is ‘Ave Maria’ really a Christmas song?” by Marc Minter, a senior pastor of First Baptist Church of Diana, TX. The correct answer is, “it’s not.”
    Michael’s “A Christmas Song” judgements

    S Tier: Nat “King” Cole
    So close! Amy Grant (see Episode 3 for the context behind Michael’s “branded by an iron” joke)
    Honorable Mention: Bing Crosby
    Clunker: Christina Aguilera
    Surprisingly Good, But Blows It: Shawn Mendes
    Just No: Pentatonix
    Self Important Rubbish: Michael Bublé

    More on the history behind Merry Christmas Darling
    The app Michael mentioned is Marvis Pro, one of the finest music players available today
    “It’s Over 9000!”
    HBO’s The Last of Us Trailer (Marc was confusing it with the HBO 2023 Lineup trailer)


    • 1 hr 8 min
    Shuffle Roulette

    Shuffle Roulette

    Shuffle Results (Spoilers!)

    Marc: “Michicant”, off Bon Ivers’ self-titled
    Michael: “Empty Room”, off Arcade Fire’s The Suburbs
    Marc: “Who Can I Turn To?”, off Tony Bennett & Bill Evans’ Together Again
    Michael: “Won’t Want for Love (Margaret In the Taiga”, off The Decemberists’ Hazards of Love
    Marc: “I Want To Tell You”, off The Beatles’ Revolver
    Michael: “Quiet Air / Gioia”, off ~Robin Pecknolds’ solo album~ Fleet Foxes’ Shore
    Marc: “Wake Up Sunshine”, off Chicago’s Chicago II
    Michael: “Blue Ridge Bazaar”, off River Valley Rangers’ Wide Open
    Marc: “It Was A Pleasure Then”, off Niko’s Chelsea Girl
    Michael: “This Changes Everything”, off The Last Bison’s Dorado EP


    Michael’s etched stone slab he calls a laptop, the 15” Mid 2012 MacBook Pro.
    Naughty Dog’s The Last of Us: Part 1
    The iRiver iFP-390T, the old MP3 player our sister & honorable co-host, Aimee, bestowed onto Michael many years ago

    Bewilderingly in a triangular Toblerone shape. What a wild time that was.

    Link to high resolution Bon Iver artwork to explore the details discussed on the show
    Deep Blue, the Chess artificial intelligence that was the first to beat Grant Master Garry Kasperof in a game on February 1996 (though Kasparov did indeed pull through and win the overall match that year)
    No Dumb Questions, Episode 141: “Weak People Make Bad Times”
    The Incomparable Episode 173z: “Human Santapede”, the undisputed king of all Christmas music podcast episodes where Tony Bennett & Bill Evans’ Together Again was mentioned.
    My Brightest Diamond
    Tim Burton
    Admiral Fallow
    Paul McCartney & Wings
    Marc got the name wrong, that repulsive laboratory-clean band is called Pentatonix. It’s bad.
    The Last Bison’s first and independently released LP, Quill
    Marc’s a bozo, “I Want to Tell You” is technically in the A major key and simply features intentionally harsh and dissonant chords in the later-half of the verse progression. Please write in to tell him how wrong he is.
    George Harrison’s “Something” off The Beatles’ Abbey Road and his double LP, All Things Must Pass
    Fleet Foxes’ current members, as of November 2022:

    Robin Pecknold
    Skyler Skjelset
    Casey Wescott
    Morgan Henderson
    Christian Wargo
    Christopher Icasiano

    “Wading In Waist-High Water” guest artist is Uwade Akhere, who apparently did record her part in-person
    Examples of Chicago “Necedah Oldies” at our Aunt & Uncles’ property:

    “25 Or 6 To 4”
    “Saturday Tn the Park”
    “Feelin’ Stronger Every Day”

    “Gary needs a new pair of shoes!”
    Special shoutout to Amos Housworth for his kindness at Philadelphia’s World Cafe Live back during the Süda tour, hope to see you & the band again soon!
    Trixie & Katia’s UNHhhh
    Check out our site’s new dark theme! Switch your operating system into “dark mode” to view.
    In contrast to what’s reported in the aftershow, Marc ended up fixing their previous, subpar typeface by replacing it altogether with Work Sans (and did end up regenerating all previous episode art, after all)
    B.O.A.T stands for Bust Out Another Thousand”, by Dude Dad


    • 1 hr 12 min
    Vide Noir

    Vide Noir

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    You can listen to Lord Huron’s Vide Noir on:

    Apple Music

    Or purchase Vide Noir on:

    Amazon Music


    Lord Huron’s discography leading up to Vide Noir

    Mighty - EP (2010)
    Into the Sun - EP (2010)
    Lonesome Dreams (2012)
    Strange Trails (2015)

    Riverside Theater in Milwaukee, WI
    Lord Huron’s “Video Postcard” promotional shorts
    “Fool For Love” music video from 2015’s Strange Trail
    Vide Noir 2 minute album teaser
    Vide Noir’s 30 minute album promo “Products of the Universe with Marsha Tanley”, which among many things spoofs shopping channels from the 80’s
    Vide Noir’s listing on IMDb
    Mentioned credits

    Mixer: Dave Fridmann
    Masterer: Greg Calbi

    Fortune teller machines (the one we remember was “Zoltar”)
    Long Lost, Lord Huron’s 2021 follow-up to Vide Noir (don’t worry, we’ll get to it at some point)
    Direct link to our Episode 2: Strange Trails conversation where Aimee asked where we thought the band would go next for their then-unannounced third LP.
    Jesca Hoop’s Memories Are Now
    The Power Of Habit: Why We Do What We Do in Life and Business by Charles Duhigg
    IMDb’s Vide Noir page
    Michael’s Easter Egg Hunt

    “The Night We Met” Official Lyric Video

    Flash of the Emerald Star at the very end (watch closely!)

    “Products of the Universe with Marsha Tanley”

    “Spiritual Advisor to Ms. Tanley: GEORGE RANGER JOHNSON”

    “Brain Scratch”, Cowboy Bebop’s 23rd episode
    Hannah Hillam’s relevant comic


    “Balancer’s Eye” is one we created ourselves, making up our own myths as we go. We’re trying to keep it so all that stuff is still around in this world too. You’ll see things that appeared on other records, ideas or names cross over to [Vide Noir]. In movies and literature and comic books, I’ve always liked where there’s connectedness or crossover. We need someone to control the lore and keep tabs on it [laughs].

    Inverview with Ben Schneider in Stereogum’s “A Look Inside The Insular World Of Lord Huron”, by Ian Cohen

    SCHNEIDER: You know, I guess I haven’t had to yet, so I’m not sure, at least with “Strange Trails.” On “Lonesome Dreams” there was kind of a central character named George Ranger Johnson, who is this really underappreciated, prolific author.

    BLOCK: Who you invented, yeah.

    SCHNEIDER: Who I invented, yes. But he - yeah, I do kind of miss George. You know, he might pop back up again some time.

    BLOCK: You haven’t seen the last of him yet?

    SCHNEIDER: Haven’t seen the last of George Ranger Johnson, no.

    Interview with Ben Schneider in NPR’s “Lord Huron Wants You To Dance At The Apocalypse”, by Melissa Block



    • 2 hr 6 min


    Support the Official Release

    You can listen to Grizzly Bear’s Shields on:

    Apple Music

    Or purchase Shields on:

    Amazon Music


    Grizzly Bear’s discography

    Yellow House (2006)
    Veckatimest (2009)
    Shields (2012)
    Painted Ruins (2017)

    “Damn BOI HE THICC”
    Albums: available now for free on the iOS App Store
    Mentioned credits:

    Ben Wilkerson Tousley
    Richard Diebenkorn
    Michael H. Brauer
    Ryan Gilligan
    Bob Ludwig

    “That Guy” is Real Estate’s Alex Bleeker, who famously writes a token song per album, such as:

    “Wonder Years” from 2011’s Days
    “How Might I Live” from 2014’s Atlas
    “Diamond Eyes” from 2017’s In Mind

    Shields: B-Sides
    Aftershow: The Last of Us Part II. If you haven’t played it, play it. It’s a masterpiece.


    Chris Bear and I went to Mexico for a month. It was in Baja, this cute little cheap place. There was no one around, no cell reception. We could focus on doing stuff. We wrote ten songs and were so stoked. Then we brought it to the other two guys and they were like, “We’re not understanding what you’re going for here. This isn’t really our vibe.” We were deflated. The only song from the Mexico sessions that made it was “Yet Again.”

    Ed Droste, genius.com



    • 1 hr 22 min

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