Bevel: Canadian Interiors Conversations

Peter Sobchak
Bevel: Canadian Interiors Conversations

Bevel is a place where we step away from the photographs and talk with industry leaders and thinkers about interesting ideas and issues facing the design world today. Bevel is the podcast extension of Canadian Interiors, the longest running interior design magazine in Canada, published since 1964.

  1. Episode 26 - Rebuilding the Office Through Circularity w/ Andy Delisi

    06/19/2024

    Episode 26 - Rebuilding the Office Through Circularity w/ Andy Delisi

    The data has been around for a long time and is not only undisputed but commonly accepted: that the built environment is responsible for approximately 42 per cent of annual global CO2 emissions. This is bad – really bad – and we are now seeing Western governments stumble over each other with promises to address the problem. The U.K. government, for example, has just announced a commitment to reducing carbon emissions by 78 per cent by 2035, and to become Net Zero Carbon by 2050, and will do so by leaning heavily on the construction industry to rapidly adopt more sustainable practices. The A&D industry likes to think it is serious about getting to carbon neutral. They are right up there on stages alongside governments pledging to use eco-friendly materials and solutions when designing the built environment that have a lower environmental impact. But when we start poking around at actual practices, certain “inconvenient truths” that seriously impede these sustainability goals bubble to the surface, ones that interior designers seem either unwilling or unable to do anything about. I’m talking specifically about office furniture specification and procurement. To help me take an unvarnished look at what is going on, I sat down with Andy Delisi, vice president at Envirotech. A WELL AP since 2016, Andy has been vocal in advocating for sustainable workplaces aligned with WELL principles. He has penned four registered courses through IDCEC, focusing on topics like Smart Building Technology, Workplace Circularity and Embodied Carbon in Interiors, and has spoken on this topic at many events including the recent ARIDO AGM. In this episode I get him to explain how “circularity” is the best weapon to combat the carbon villain, but also what’s stopping us from achieving a circular economy. We discuss what kinds of new (or just sensible) thinking designers need to explore to get off the typical “take, make, waste” model, and how can we rebuild a workplace that is still an evolving post-COVID landscape through a focus on circular design, which emphasizes sustainability at each step of a product’s lifecycle, from inception to recycling and reuse.

    1h 31m
  2. Episode 25 - Behind the Curtain with a Production Designer w/ Shayne Fox

    05/09/2024

    Episode 25 - Behind the Curtain with a Production Designer w/ Shayne Fox

    Every scene you see when watching a movie or television show that isn’t a documentary was purposely thought out and designed by someone. And the vast majority of times, that someone is a Production Designer. Yet while the results of their efforts are visible right there on the screen for everyone to see, a fog shrouds the magnitude of the production designer’s role to weave together imagination and technique, seamlessly blending illusion with reality. With discipline, precision and fiscal mindfulness, their job is (put simply) to elevate the script and bring it to life, transforming ideas into captivating imagery and giving tangible purpose to those images. Using many of the same tools that those in the A&D industry would recognize, production designers plan every shot from microscopic to macroscopic detail. Shayne Fox is a Toronto-based production designer and set decorator who for over three decades has created television programming and feature films for FX Network, NBC, Netflix, Warner Brothers, Sony, MGM and many others. She has received two prime time Emmy nominations as well as four Art Directors Guild nominations, two wins, and also somehow found time to design and launch a hardware line. I was able to pull Shayne away from the set of the FX show, What We Do in The Shadows as it wrapped shooting its sixth and final season in Toronto to understand her profession more fully and just how much it mirrors the built environment design professions are familiar with.

    57 min
  3. 12/20/2023

    Episode 24 - Radical Positivity Through Communication Design w/ Stefan Sagmeister

    “The world is terrible. The world is fantastic. Both statements are true.” This is a line that opens one of the chapters of Stefan Sagmeister’s new book, and its pragmatic, no-nonsense tone is a perfect indicator of what readers will be presented with: a fact-driven exploration of human progress throughout the ages. Yet the book’s title, Now Is Better, reveals where Stefan’s heart lies and what his true intentions are: to in his words “foster radical positivity” and nudge audiences towards choosing “gratitude and positivity over pessimism and despair.” I am in the same camp as Stafan, believing that despite the unrelentingly negative content being force-fed to us in our daily news cycles, things are actually much better now than they used to be, and we would all do much better if we were able to keep that somewhere in our active minds. That theme, coupled with the tools Stefan uses to explore and preach it – communication design, his stock-in-trade – is what compelled me to chat with him for this episode of Bevel. His pieces blend classic art with quantitative data analysis by rendering complex data sets into geometric symbols and then literally inserting them into nineteenth-century oil paintings. Because Bevel is an audio podcast, we don’t talk about individual pieces directly, but instead I use Stefan’s overall mission as the starting point to explore topics such as communicating “truth” in a post-truth age; how a communication designer measures the effectiveness of a message; why design is compared more to art than science; and even touch on the question of ownership as it relates to the visual arts. Stefan Sagmeister formed his New York-based firm in 1993 and his work is in museum collections around the world. He’s also designed for a diverse roster of clients including album covers and packaging for bands such as the Rolling Stones, the Talking Heads and Jay-Z, so I even indulge a bit and ask him about the state of album design.

    1h 21m
  4. Episode 23 - Emerging Tech Meets Design

    10/17/2023

    Episode 23 - Emerging Tech Meets Design

    Chatter is exploding about advancements in AI. Every industry is sitting up and taking notice, including, of course, the A&D industry. These creatives are intrigued not only by how AI can help design teams by not only reducing overall project lead times, but also expanding creative discovery by memorizing insights from thousands, if not millions, of previous project data. Software such as DALL-E 2, Midjourney, and Stable Diffusion are seen as tools to speed up sketching and other ideation processes, producing a plethora of renderings for comparison and further development. Advocates praise how AI-enhanced technologies will simplify many routine office and design tasks, replacing current software products and freeing designers to concentrate on other aspects of their business. Yet there are critics urging caution, as debates are emerging around what, if any, regulatory interventions governments should take to protect from potential fraudulence and exploitation. In this episode of Bevel we hear from Andrew Lane, co-founder of digby; George Foussias, Creative Director of mood.designlab; and Mark Cichy, Director of Design Technology at HOK, who gathered for the latest INSight session hosted by Canadian Interiors and Black Bread + Jam to explore issues that range from hopeful to concerning, and delve into compelling, real-world examples of how creative industries are already leveraging these emerging technologies and what they mean for the future.

    1 hr
  5. Episode 22 - Digging into the Craft of Trend Spotting w/ Dr. Michael Berens

    04/03/2023

    Episode 22 - Digging into the Craft of Trend Spotting w/ Dr. Michael Berens

    It is a well-known fact that the media loves trends reports. After all, they give us so much to report on: experts providing clairvoyant insights into what they think will happen in the near future; pointing out observable changes in people’s behaviour; identifying key drivers, challenges, threats and opportunities that are influencing industries; and so on. All professions and industries employ trends reports, and the interior design industry is no exception. For example, just recently the American Society of Interior Designers (ASID) released its 2023 Trends Outlook report, examining societal shifts and economic trends impacting the design profession and the role of design in addressing issues in our world. There is a lot of good content in that report, but I decided to take its release as an opportunity to “peek behind the curtain” as it were and speak to its author to get an understanding of how such a document is created. That author is Dr. Michael J. Berens, a writer, editor and researcher with 30 years’ experience in research and knowledge management, over 14 of which as the director of research and knowledge resources for ASID. In this episode of Bevel, I enlist Dr. Berens to help unpack the nuts n’ bolts of conducting a survey and the approaches to different types, for example industry metrics surveys versus trends surveys. We discuss how a trends analyst handles paradigm shifts like COVID-19, which literally came out of nowhere, and how often does “fallout” become “trends.” I also tap into some bigger philosophical questions: for example, where do value-based assessments like “what should happen” fit into reporting “what is happening”? Lastly, we all know that trends report are tools or preparation, but I ask: can they also be tools for challenging one’s own perspective? Preparing for the future is one thing, but how do “trends” help those who want to create the future?

    56 min
  6. Episode 20 - Web3's Potential for Designers w/ Digby

    01/03/2023

    Episode 20 - Web3's Potential for Designers w/ Digby

    When you hear words like “blockchain” do you immediately conjure up images of Minecraft, that video game your 14-year-old son plays all day? Or when you encounter the phrase “metaverse” do you instantly hear Keanu Reeves utter his famous “Woah!” line from The Matrix? Don’t feel bad, you’re not alone. To many, they feel like buzzwords that gamers and tech savants love to throw around on their discussion boards. But in fact, they are foundational pieces of a larger tech shift that we are in the midst of and may not even know it. The new frontier, being called web3, is ditching a previous internet dominated by companies that provide services in exchange for personal data, and instead wants to “decentralize” ownership to build interaction, community, and return power to the creator. Why should you care? Because there’s a lot of money at play. J.P. Morgan predicts the metaverse will be a $1 trillion market. Undoubtedly much of that will be purely for entertainment. But there will be another part emerging around productivity and expanding the physical realm, which is where design firms come in. In an effort to make some sense of all this, for this episode of Bevel I joined forces with my friend and fellow podcaster Arnaud Marthouret, creator of the Single Servesseries, and sat down with Tessa Bain and Andrew Lane, co-founders of the Toronto-based firm Digby, to unpack the meaning and interconnectedness of things like NFTs, augmented reality, the metaverse and understand why web3 represents more opportunities than just being an avatar running around in a cartoon universe.

    56 min
  7. Episode 19 - Auto-Ethnography in Design w/ Michael Kaethler

    10/25/2022

    Episode 19 - Auto-Ethnography in Design w/ Michael Kaethler

    Ask a designer what the role of a designer is, and you will get as diverse a spectrum of answers as you will designers. Is it one of creative expression or rigorously conducted research? Is it engineering over artistry, or vice versa? Can it be everything, all at once? Many designers will chafe even at that, saying not taking a position is part of the problem of our times. Designers taking a position, at times referred to as authorship, has always been fertile ground for debate between critics, theorists, educators, and practitioners. There are designers who shy away from authorship because they think of themselves of problem-solvers, not a brand. Then there are those who believe designers are not merely mediators, not just part of an agency that suggest various options to the client, but in fact need a strong voice and make decisions – an attitude that could be seen as in opposition to the prevailing sentiment that design is all about collaboration. A collection of interviews and essays by editors Louise Schouwenberg and Michael Kaethler in a new book titled The Auto-Ethnographic Turn in Design (2021, Valiz) gives me a good opportunity to explore these issues. In this episode of Bevel, I chat with Michael (our first returning guest to the series) about making sense of phenomena in design described as auto-ethnographic and how, if at all, authorship fits into the discourse. “Auto-ethnography gives an authority to the designer as someone with something to say and a means to say it,” says Michael in one of his essays. It “situates the designer at the heart of the research and connects this position to the culture of design and the broader cultural realm.” Michael Kaethler is a sociologist of design whose work focuses on the transmission, production and embodiment of knowledge in art and design-oriented practices.

    1h 18m

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    Bevel is a place where we step away from the photographs and talk with industry leaders and thinkers about interesting ideas and issues facing the design world today. Bevel is the podcast extension of Canadian Interiors, the longest running interior design magazine in Canada, published since 1964.

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