Chattinn Cyber

Marc Schein
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Is a podcast that focuses on how companies can quantify and qualify the cost of a data breach. Chattinn Cyber features some of the most well respected privacy and cyber experts in the world.

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    Legal Insights on AI: Protecting Privacy in a Data-Driven World with Colleen García

    Summary In this episode, Marc is chattin’ with Colleen García, a seasoned privacy attorney. The conversation begins with an introduction to Colleen’s extensive background in cybersecurity law, including her experience working with the U.S. government before transitioning to the private sector. This sets the stage for a deep dive into the complex relationship between data privacy and artificial intelligence (AI), highlighting the importance of understanding legal and ethical considerations as AI technology continues to evolve rapidly. The core of the discussion centers on how AI models are trained on vast amounts of data, often containing personal identifiable information (PII). Colleen emphasizes that respecting individuals’ data privacy rights is crucial, especially when it comes to obtaining proper consent for the use of their data in AI systems. She points out that while AI offers many benefits, it also raises significant concerns about data misuse, leakage, and the potential for infringing on privacy rights, which companies must carefully navigate to avoid legal and reputational risks. Colleen elaborates on the current legal landscape, noting that existing data privacy laws—such as those in the U.S., the European Union, Canada, and Singapore—are being adapted to address AI-specific issues. She mentions upcoming regulations like the EU AI Act and highlights the role of the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) in enforcing transparency and honesty in AI disclosures. Although some laws do not explicitly mention AI, their principles are increasingly being applied to regulate AI development and deployment, emphasizing the need for companies to stay compliant and transparent. The conversation then expands to a global perspective, with Colleen discussing how different countries are approaching the intersection of data privacy and AI. She notes that international efforts are underway to develop legal frameworks that address the unique challenges posed by AI, reflecting a broader recognition that AI regulation is a worldwide concern. This global outlook underscores the importance for companies operating across borders to stay informed about evolving legal standards and best practices. In closing, Colleen offers practical advice for businesses seeking to responsibly implement AI. She stresses the importance of building AI systems on a strong foundation of data privacy, including thorough vetting of training data and transparency with users. She predicts that future legislative efforts may lead to more state-level AI laws and possibly a comprehensive federal framework, although the current landscape remains fragmented. The podcast concludes with Colleen inviting listeners to connect with her for further discussion, emphasizing the need for proactive, thoughtful approaches to AI and data privacy in the evolving legal environment. Key Points The Relationship Between Data Privacy and AI: The discussion emphasizes how AI models are trained on data that often includes personal identifiable information (PII), highlighting the importance of respecting privacy rights and obtaining proper consent. Legal Risks and Challenges in AI and Data Privacy: Colleen outlines potential risks such as data leakage, misuse, and the complexities of ensuring compliance with existing privacy laws when deploying AI systems. Current and Emerging Data Privacy Laws: The conversation covers how existing laws (like those from the U.S., EU, Canada, and Singapore) are being adapted to regulate AI, along with upcoming regulations such as the EU AI Act and the role of agencies like the FTC. International Perspectives on AI and Data Privacy: The interview highlights how different countries are approaching AI regulation, emphasizing that this is a global issue with ongoing legislative developments worldwide. Practical Advice for Responsible AI Deployment: Colleen offers guidance for companies to build AI systems on a strong data privacy foun...

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    Point. Click. Hack: Snehal Antani on the Future of Autonomous Cybersecurity

    Summary In this insightful episode, Marc Schein interviews Snehal Antani, the CEO and co-founder of Horizon3.ai, about his entrepreneurial journey, the evolution of his company, and the future of cybersecurity. Snehal shares how Horizon3.ai grew from a handful of engineers working in a basement to a cutting-edge firm revolutionizing autonomous penetration testing. He walks listeners through the different startup phases, emphasizing how critical it is to develop a repeatable sales process, retain customers, and build operational excellence at scale. Snehal discusses the complex challenge of preserving organizational culture during rapid growth, highlighting mistakes made during their first hyper-growth phase and the importance of investing in strong, well-indoctrinated management. He explains how a thoughtful approach to onboarding managers as cultural ambassadors ultimately led to a more stable, scalable team. He offers a candid perspective on venture funding—detailing both the pitfalls of dealing with inexperienced investors and the value of bringing on seasoned operators as board mentors. Snehal uses his experience with crises, including the collapse of Silicon Valley Bank and the loss of his father, to underline the importance of developing "muscle memory" within leadership teams. He compares this to special operations units, where preparation and planning allow for excellence under pressure. The episode shifts into technical terrain with a compelling explanation of autonomous penetration testing. Snehal shares how Horizon3.ai developed a system capable of autonomously discovering vulnerabilities and compromising environments without human input—essentially transforming cyber warfare into an algorithmic domain. He compares pen testing to chess, where well-defined opening and closing moves are followed by dynamic midgames. Finally, Snehal forecasts a future in which cyberattacks will be AI-powered and nearly instantaneous. He warns that most current defensive tools are designed for human-centered responses, which will soon be obsolete. As evidence, he cites Horizon3.ai’s autonomous agent compromising a bank in under five minutes—twice as fast as the previous year. He predicts the first deepseek-enabled cyberattack within 90 days, calling it a wake-up call for the industry. Key Points Startup Phases: Snehal outlines the four key startup phases: building value, repeatable sales, scaling operations, and achieving operational excellence. Culture During Hypergrowth: The key to scaling culture is hiring the right management and giving them time to assimilate before they scale their teams. Autonomous Pen Testing: Horizon3.ai’s agent can autonomously discover and exploit vulnerabilities without human involvement. Crisis Leadership: True leadership is tested during crises; muscle memory and planning are essential for executive teams. AI-Powered Cyber Threats: Snehal predicts that the next wave of cyberattacks will be powered by open-weight AI models capable of adaptive exploitation. Key Quotes "You want to build that muscle memory as a CEO as early as possible… so you can stack excellence upon excellence." "PowerPoint is cheap. YouTube videos are cheap. Let our results do the talking." "My primary competitor is mediocre consultants." "Every defensive tool in the market today is designed for humans at the center—and every one of them will be rendered obsolete." "The future of cyber warfare will be algorithms versus algorithms, and humans by exception." About Our Guest Snehal Antani is the CEO and co-founder of Horizon3.ai, a pioneering cybersecurity company that leverages artificial intelligence to autonomously conduct penetration testing. Before founding Horizon3, Snehal served as the first Chief Technology Officer for the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC), where he was instrumental in leading initiatives in data analytics, cloud/edge computing,

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    Beyond MFA: How Deepfakes Are Hacking Humans

    Summary On this episode of Chattinn Cyber, Marc is chattin’ with Aaron Painter, a seasoned enterprise tech executive with years at Microsoft and experience leading operations in China and the UK, shares the origin story of his company, Nametag. After observing the rise in identity theft among friends and family, Aaron was struck by how outdated and vulnerable identity verification processes had become—especially the ease with which attackers could answer common security questions using publicly available data. The conversation turns to the evolution of cyber threats, particularly social engineering and deepfake-enabled attacks. Painter outlines a disturbing trend where attackers bypass even sophisticated technological protections like multi-factor authentication (MFA) by exploiting weak points in human processes, such as IT help desks. One example he highlights is the MGM breach, where a phone-based social engineering tactic led to significant damage. Painter emphasizes that many organizations' defenses rely on trust in video verification—such as Zoom or Teams calls—but that these platforms are now susceptible to real-time deepfake emulation. Attackers can impersonate employees or candidates using advanced visual spoofing tools, bypassing traditional verification methods and gaining access to critical systems. To address these vulnerabilities, Nametag offers a mobile-first identity verification solution that leverages smartphone cryptography and biometric tools to take three-dimensional selfies and securely scan IDs. This process ensures stronger identity proofing, even under conditions that would normally be vulnerable to deepfake deception or impersonation. The episode concludes with Painter warning HR professionals about the increasing threat of hiring fraud—where bad actors impersonate real candidates using deepfakes. He advises that companies don't need to replace existing systems like Workday or Okta but should instead implement layered solutions that complement current infrastructure and close critical security gaps. Key Points Cybersecurity Gaps Are Human, Not Just Technical: Despite widespread use of MFA, social engineering attacks targeting help desk personnel remain a primary threat vector. Deepfakes Are Evolving Rapidly: Attackers increasingly use deepfake technologies to impersonate employees or job applicants on video calls, rendering basic visual verification untrustworthy. Nametag’s Mobile-First Approach: Nametag strengthens identity verification by using mobile devices’ cryptographic and biometric capabilities to combat real-time deepfake impersonation. Hiring Fraud Is a Growing Threat: Criminals, sometimes state-sponsored, use deepfake tools to impersonate legitimate job candidates, gain access to internal systems, and cause serious security breaches. Enterprise Integration Over Replacement: Painter advocates for bolting on new security layers rather than replacing entire systems—filling in gaps while preserving operational continuity. Key Quotes “All you have to do is call and pretend to be the account holder and say you were locked out. Then there’s a clear vulnerability. And that vulnerability is a social one or human one.” “The platforms weren’t really built to prevent against deepfakes… You’ve got that person showing up completely different on the video call.” “95% of the background check providers do it with a Social Security number and no identity verification.” “We invented the same concept of scan your ID and take a selfie—but we do it exclusively on mobile.” “I knew identity verification was a hot area. I had no idea it would be this hot.” About Our Guest Aaron Painter is the visionary CEO of Nametag Inc., the pioneering identity verification platform dedicated to protecting users from impersonators and AI-generated deepfakes. With a mission to enhance online authenticity and foster trusted relationships,

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    The Currency of Trust: Navigating CMMC with Mark Jackolski

    Summary In this episode of Chattinn Cyber, cybersecurity expert Mark Jackolski, Director of Risk and Compliance at Show Proof, shares his journey from Long Island technician to national leader in cyber compliance. With a foundation in information systems from Stony Brook University, Mark discusses how his passion for technology evolved into a career focused on helping organizations meet rising cybersecurity standards. The heart of the conversation is the Cybersecurity Maturity Model Certification (CMMC), a framework initiated by the Department of Defense to ensure that contractors protect controlled unclassified information. Mark explains that while compliance with NIST 800-171 has been required since 2017, CMMC introduces verification—organizations must now demonstrate their cybersecurity posture through third-party assessments to remain eligible for federal contracts. Beyond meeting DoD requirements, Mark describes how CMMC builds reputational credibility, calling it “the currency of trust.” He emphasizes the strategic advantage of showing compliance through a recognized badge rather than repeated explanations, which streamlines the contracting process and establishes confidence with partners and clients. When asked how organizations should begin preparing, Mark advises starting with people: appointing a program leader, engaging executive buy-in, and mapping where sensitive data flows. He warns against relying on underqualified partners and stresses the importance of assessing technical, administrative, and physical requirements early. Missteps—like poor documentation or unclear scoping—can lead to wasted time and resources. Finally, Mark highlights the growing relevance of CMMC beyond the DoD. New regulations aim to standardize data protection across all federal agencies, meaning businesses even tangentially involved in government work may soon fall under its scope. As CMMC requirements become embedded in contracts by summer 2025, organizations that prepare now will gain a competitive edge in the expanding defense and government market. 5 Key Points CMMC Explained: The Cybersecurity Maturity Model Certification verifies that organizations working with the Department of Defense meet NIST 800-171 cybersecurity standards. Strategic Advantage: Earning CMMC builds trust and provides a significant edge in securing government contracts by signaling a strong cybersecurity posture. Preparation Starts with People: A successful CMMC journey begins by appointing accountable personnel, securing executive alignment, and clearly mapping the flow of controlled unclassified information (CUI). Pitfalls and Guidance: Common mistakes include working with unqualified providers and underestimating documentation requirements. Mark recommends finding certified experts through the Cyber AB marketplace. Growing Scope: CMMC will expand beyond the DoD to other government agencies, making early adoption a strategic move even for subcontractors or non-defense contractors. 5 Key Quotes “It’s the currency of trust.” – Mark on how CMMC serves as a reputation badge in the defense industry. “Start by appointing somebody to oversee the entire process.” – On the critical role of leadership in compliance efforts. “Documentation is key—not just technical controls, but the processes and people behind them.” “If you're going to develop a policy or some other procedure, there has to be buy-in from the organization.” “CMMC started with the DoD, but it’s going to expand to other government agencies. This is just the beginning.” About Our Guest Mark Jackolski is a creative and team-oriented cybersecurity professional with a deep-seated passion for technology. He specializes in assisting small to medium-sized businesses in enhancing their security posture and achieving compliance with industry standards. With a persistent drive to deliver exceptional results, Mark offers strategic virtual Chief Information...

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    Navigating Cybersecurity Contracts: Insights from Ken Rashbaum

    Summary In this episode of Chattinn Cyber, Marc Schein welcomes back Ken Rashbaum, a partner at Barton LLP and a professor at Fordham Law School. Ken, a well-respected privacy attorney, shares his journey from being a trial lawyer and prosecutor to becoming a leading figure in data protection and cybersecurity. He discusses how his early work in healthcare law, particularly with the introduction of HIPAA, paved the way for his focus on privacy and cybersecurity on a global scale. Their chat shifts to the current landscape of data protection regulations in the U.S. Ken explains the fragmented nature of these laws, which primarily exist at the state level, with only limited federal regulations in healthcare and children's information. He expresses skepticism about significant changes in federal regulation following the recent presidential election, highlighting the philosophical divide between the two major political parties regarding privacy legislation. Ken emphasizes that voters are increasingly concerned about the privacy and security of their personal information, which complicates the regulatory landscape. Marc and Ken then delve into the importance of cybersecurity provisions in contracts, particularly for midsize businesses. Ken argues that simply stating compliance with applicable laws is insufficient due to the evolving nature of cybersecurity regulations. He advocates for more detailed cybersecurity requirements in contracts to provide clarity and certainty for all parties involved. Ken also addresses the challenges small and mid-sized businesses face when negotiating contracts with larger corporations, suggesting that they assess risks and consider mitigation strategies, such as implementing multi-factor authentication. The discussion also touches on the implications of the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) for businesses that may not operate in Europe but have customers there. Ken advises that companies should be aware of their obligations under GDPR if they market to EU residents, as the global nature of the internet makes it difficult to avoid these regulations. He stresses the importance of transparency and understanding the data protection implications of using artificial intelligence in business agreements, given the rapid development of AI technology. Finally, Ken highlights the need for continuous learning in the field of cybersecurity and data protection, urging professionals to stay updated on current changes and adapt to the evolving needs of businesses. He concludes by encouraging open communication and collaboration between legal advisors and businesses to ensure that contracts are tailored to meet the specific needs and risks of each party. The episode wraps up with Ken sharing his contact information and resources for listeners seeking further guidance on these critical issues. Key Points Fragmented Data Protection Regulations: Ken explains the current state of data protection laws in the U.S., highlighting the lack of comprehensive federal regulations outside of healthcare and children's information. He notes that most regulations exist at the state level, leading to a complex and inconsistent legal landscape. Importance of Detailed Cybersecurity Provisions in Contracts: The conversation emphasizes that simply stating compliance with applicable laws in contracts is insufficient. Ken advocates for including specific cybersecurity requirements to provide clarity and certainty for all parties involved, especially given the evolving nature of cybersecurity regulations. Challenges for Midsize Businesses: Ken discusses the difficulties that small and midsize businesses face when negotiating contracts with larger corporations. He suggests that these businesses assess their risks and consider mitigation strategies, such as implementing cybersecurity measures like multi-factor authentication. Implications of GDPR: The podcast addresses the relevance of the General Data...

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    Navigating Cyber Threats: Insights from New York’s Cybersecurity Advisory Board

    Summary In this episode of Chattinn Cyber, Marc Schein is chattin’ with Jeremy Shockett, a prominent figure in cybersecurity and former co-chair of the New York State Cyber Security Advisory Board. Mark introduces Jeremy, emphasizing his extensive background, including his previous role as a prosecutor. This introduction sets the stage for a discussion centered on cybersecurity practices, particularly the significance of tabletop and red team exercises in enhancing organizational preparedness against cyber threats. Jeremy shares his professional journey, detailing his transition from a 24-year career as a prosecutor to his appointment by the governor of New York as the deputy secretary for public safety, where he oversees cybersecurity initiatives. He elaborates on the role of the New York State Cyber Security Advisory Board, which comprises leaders from both public and private sectors. This board advises the governor on cybersecurity policies and plays a crucial role in responding to real-time threats, highlighting the collaborative effort required to address cybersecurity challenges effectively. The discussion then delves into the differences between tabletop exercises and red team exercises. Jeremy explains that tabletop exercises are hypothetical scenarios where participants discuss responses to simulated threats, helping organizations identify decision-making processes and vulnerabilities. In contrast, red team exercises involve actual simulated attacks conducted by hired experts to test an organization’s defenses in real-time. This distinction underscores the unique purposes and methodologies of each exercise type, emphasizing their importance in a comprehensive cybersecurity strategy. Jeremy offers practical recommendations for conducting these exercises, advising organizations to start with tabletop exercises to establish decision-making frameworks and identify vulnerabilities before progressing to red team exercises. He outlines key takeaways from both types of exercises, such as understanding strategic decision-making, clarifying roles and responsibilities, and evaluating communication strategies. For red team exercises, he highlights the importance of identifying specific vulnerabilities and assessing the effectiveness of social engineering defenses, providing valuable insights for organizations looking to strengthen their cybersecurity posture. The conversation concludes with Jeremy sharing a memorable experience from a tabletop exercise where he played the role of the governor. He emphasizes the importance of asking critical questions that challenge the status quo and drive effective responses to threats. Reflecting on his career transition from Miami to New York, Jeremy expresses gratitude for the opportunities he has encountered, reinforcing the value of preparedness and collaboration in the ever-evolving field of cybersecurity. Key Points Importance of Preparedness: The discussion emphasizes the necessity of conducting both tabletop and red team exercises to prepare organizations for potential cyber threats. These exercises help identify vulnerabilities and establish effective response strategies. Differences Between Exercise Types: Jeremy clearly distinguishes between tabletop exercises, which are discussion-based and focus on hypothetical scenarios, and red team exercises, which involve real-time simulated attacks. Understanding these differences is crucial for organizations to implement effective cybersecurity training. Sequential Approach to Exercises: Jeremy recommends that organizations conduct tabletop exercises first to develop decision-making processes and identify weaknesses before moving on to red team exercises. This sequential approach enhances the effectiveness of the overall cybersecurity strategy. Key Takeaways from Exercises: The conversation highlights critical insights gained from both types of exercises, such as understanding roles and responsibilities,

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    Unmasking Cyber Threats: The Rise of Spoofing and Phishing with Gideon Hazam

    Summary In this episode of Chattinn Cyber, Marc Schein is chattin’ with Gideon Hazam, a renowned expert in spoofing. The discussion revolves around the challenges faced by organizations in detecting and protecting against phishing attacks on their brands. Gideon explains that his company spent six months meeting with Chief Information Security Officers (CISOs) from various industries to understand their main challenges related to phishing attacks. They identified three major challenges: detecting phishing attacks quickly, identifying the users exposed to these attacks, and finding ways to protect them. To address these challenges, Gideon’s company developed a platform that has gained popularity and is now being implemented across sectors and organizations worldwide. The platform helps organizations detect phishing attacks on their customers quickly, identify the users at risk, and implement measures to protect them. He then goes on to explain the connection between spoofing and phishing. Phishing is the platform used to conduct a cyber takeover, where attackers create fake websites to harvest credentials or steal money. Spoofing, on the other hand, is the technique used to generate these phishing attacks. It involves using spoofing tools to create fake websites or clone existing ones. The conversation then delves into the susceptibility of different industries to spoofing attacks. Gideon explains that any organization with an online presence and customer interaction is a potential target for hackers. However, industries related to finance and money are particularly vulnerable due to the potential for financial manipulation and theft. The discussion also touches upon the lifecycle of a phishing attack. It starts with building the phishing site, which is then detected and ideally taken down. However, the exposure window remains until the site is successfully removed. Even after takedown, the harvested credentials can still be exploited, posing a continued threat to organizations. Gideon predicts that spoofing attacks will become more prevalent in the corporate world due to the increasing reliance on online activities and the availability of numerous spoofing tools in the market. He emphasizes the need for authentication solutions to ensure users are visiting legitimate websites and not falling victim to imposter sites. The conversation provides valuable insights into the challenges posed by spoofing and phishing attacks, the connection between the two, and the need for robust authentication measures to protect against these threats. The discussion highlights the importance of detecting attacks quickly, identifying at-risk users, and implementing effective protection measures to safeguard organizations and their customers. Key Points Organizations face three major challenges when it comes to phishing attacks on their brands: detecting attacks quickly, identifying exposed users, and protecting them. Spoofing is the technique used to generate phishing attacks, where attackers create fake websites or clone existing ones. Any organization with an online presence and customer interaction is a potential target for spoofing attacks, with industries related to finance being particularly vulnerable. The lifecycle of a phishing attack involves building the phishing site, detecting it, and ideally taking it down. However, even after takedown, the harvested credentials can still be exploited. The prevalence of spoofing attacks is expected to increase due to the growing reliance on online activities and the availability of easy-to-use spoofing tools in the market. Key Quotes "Phishing is basically the platform to conduct a counter takeover in one hand. I will build a phishing site in order to harvest as many credentials as possible of any anyone. And secondly, I can use phishing to steal money. Simple as that." "The interesting part is that any firm, any organization that has online presence,

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    Promises and Pitfalls: The Intersection of AI and Insurance with Marshall Gilinsky

    Summary In this episode of Chattinn Cyber, Marc Schein is chattin’ with Marshall Gilinsky, a partner at Anderson Kill, PC, focusing on the impact of artificial intelligence across various industries, particularly in insurance. Marshall shares his background and explains how his interest in AI developed over time. He expresses his fascination with the technology, emphasizing its potential benefits and risks. Marshall believes that AI has the capacity to revolutionize numerous tasks and industries, but he also stresses the importance of understanding and regulating AI to ensure its safe and productive use. The discussion then shifts to instances of AI misuse, where Marshall recounts a case involving a lawyer who relied solely on AI to draft legal briefs. This reliance led to significant failures and embarrassment for the lawyer, highlighting the need for caution and responsible use of AI to prevent similar mishaps in the future. Mark inquires about the implications of AI for the insurance industry and seeks advice for policyholders. Marshall explains that while AI is a powerful new tool, it can both enhance and harm insurance operations. He notes that current insurance policies lack specific provisions for AI-related claims, advising policyholders to remain vigilant about potential risks associated with AI technologies. The conversation progresses to the topic of AI regulations and future predictions. Marshall discusses the ongoing efforts by regulators to understand and ensure the safe development of AI. He emphasizes the necessity of balancing business interests with the protection of policyholders and investors. Although he acknowledges the challenges in making accurate predictions about AI's future, he remains hopeful for conscientious engineering practices that prioritize safety and responsibility. In closing, Mark thanks Marshall for his valuable insights and expresses interest in continuing the dialogue. Marshall appreciates the opportunity to discuss AI and mentions his ongoing learning and exploration in this rapidly evolving field. Overall, the episode underscores the importance of understanding and managing the risks and benefits associated with AI, particularly within the insurance sector. Key Points Fascination with AI: Marshall expresses a deep interest in AI, highlighting its transformative potential across various industries. He emphasizes the need to understand both the benefits and risks associated with AI technologies. Cases of Misuse: The discussion includes real-world examples of AI misuse, such as a lawyer who relied solely on AI for drafting legal briefs, which resulted in failure. This underscores the importance of caution and responsible use of AI. Impact on Insurance: AI is described as a double-edged sword in the insurance industry. While it can enhance operations, it also poses risks. Marshall notes that current insurance policies often lack specific provisions for AI-related claims, urging policyholders to be aware of these potential risks. Need for Regulation: The conversation highlights the ongoing efforts by regulators to understand AI and ensure its safe development. Marshall stresses the importance of balancing business interests with the protection of policyholders and investors. Challenges in Prediction: Marshall acknowledges the difficulty in making accurate predictions about the future of AI. However, he expresses hope for responsible engineering practices that prioritize safety and ethical considerations. Continuous Learning: Ongoing education and exploration in the field of AI is important and reflects the rapidly evolving nature of the technology and its implications. Responsible Use: The conversation reinforces the need for a cautious approach to AI, advocating for responsible use to mitigate risks and maximize benefits in various applications, particularly in sensitive areas like insurance. Key Quotes On Fascination with AI: "The potential for benefits to society from...

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Is a podcast that focuses on how companies can quantify and qualify the cost of a data breach. Chattinn Cyber features some of the most well respected privacy and cyber experts in the world.

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