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Burden of Proof is a true crime podcast run by two paralegals with a generation gap. Join Elysia and Savannah as they tell each other true crime stories with a focus on what happens AFTER the criminals get caught!

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    • 4.5 • 41 Ratings

Burden of Proof is a true crime podcast run by two paralegals with a generation gap. Join Elysia and Savannah as they tell each other true crime stories with a focus on what happens AFTER the criminals get caught!

    Case Number 90: Dana Sue Gray, The Serial Shopaholic

    Case Number 90: Dana Sue Gray, The Serial Shopaholic

    After a rocky childhood, Dana faced losing her Mother to cancer at the young age of 14. Despite getting kicked out by her Father and Stepmother at 16, Dana went on to graduate high school and attend college to pursue a career in nursing. Inspired by the nurses who took care of her Mother, she wanted to help others in such a time of need.
    Unfortunately, Dana's addictions caused her life to come crashing down and within months of losing her nursing job, she began taking lives instead of saving them. She targeted elderly women who lived alone mostly. She may have gotten away with it longer had it not been for one victim who survived. Dana made the mistake of attacking a woman who worked at an antique shop who was younger and stronger than the other victims. When detectives connected the crimes, it wasn't long before they identified her.
    Tune in as Savannah gives an insightful take on this tragic serial killer's life and Elysia is somehow both speechless and not surprised by Dana's audacity. 
     
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    Sources:
    “To Die For” by Kathy Braidhill
    Addicted to Luxury: The Pampered Killer By Katherine Ramsland
    “Dana Sue Gray” Parts One and Two on Serial Killers Podcast 
    https://www.crimelibrary.org/notorious_murders/women/dana_sue_gray/9.html
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1Wk0bu04mg
     
     
     
    Graphic Art By: Taylor Poe
    Music By:
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    • 52 min
    Case Number 89: The Lady in the Barrel

    Case Number 89: The Lady in the Barrel

    When Ron Cohen and his family tried to sell their Long Island, New York home, the buyers requested they clear out everything in a crawl space that had been used for storage. This included an industrial barrel that had been there since the Cohen family had bought the house 10 years prior.
    This reasonable request turned into a complete nightmare. When forced to open the barrel in an attempt to lighten its weight, Ron also opened an investigation into a 30 year old murder. Her name was Reyna Marroquin and she had been missing since 1968. 
    Tune in as Elysia details the astounding lengths her murderer DID NOT go to to hide her body but still got away with it. Meanwhile, Savannah is on a rollercoaster of emotions. 
     
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    Sources:
    Buried in the Backyard: Season 1, Episode 3
    https://nypost.com/1999/09/30/cops-solve-mystery-of-mummified-body/
     
    https://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/14/nyregion/body-in-barrel-is-believed-to-be-woman-who-vanished-in-69.html
     
    https://forensicfilesnow.com/index.php/tag/reyna-marroquin/
     
    https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/193062199/howard_burton-elkins
     
    https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/215199418/reyna_angelica-marroquin/photo
     
    https://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/2022/exc/article-35/837-f-2/#:~:text=The%20division%20shall%20transmit%20the,injury%2C%20or%20may%20be%20a
     
    https://law.justia.com/codes/new-jersey/title-52/section-52-17b-213/#:~:text=b.,primary%20responsibility%20over%20the%20investigation.
     
    https://lauthmissingpersons.com/history-of-missing-persons-law-in-the-united-states/
     
    https://legistar.council.nyc.gov/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=6639683&GUID=049FEC8A-3019-4AA0-9892-E94C2CAA792B
     
    https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/new-york-missing-bipoc-women-and-girls-task-force/
     
     
     
    Graphic Art By: Taylor Poe
    Music By:
    https://www.fesliyanstudios.com/royalty-free-music/download/shady-business/2181
     

    • 56 min
    Case Number 88: The Corpsewood Manor Murders

    Case Number 88: The Corpsewood Manor Murders

    Charles Scudder and his partner, Joseph Odom, moved to the town of Trion, Georgia to escape the hustle and bustle of city life in Chicago and live on their own terms. Many in the town were not happy with the couple's arrival due to their unorthodox lifestyle. Eventually acceptance grew when they realized Charles and Joseph had no ill intention toward anyone.
    Some of the towns people even became friends with the couple whether they enjoyed the couples' company, attended parties or partook in Charles' homemade wine. It was a peaceful life for six years before two men they thought were friends took their lives as well as their beloved dogs lives in a brutal attack. 
    Tune in as Savannah shares the story of how these two peculiarly creative souls were taken too soon and Elysia is reminded of how one's intuition of impending death can make a person do otherwise strange things.
     
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    Sources:
    “The Corpsewood Manor Murders of North Georgia” by Amy Petulla 
    https://law.justia.com/cases/georgia/supreme-court/1984/40344-1.html
    Gore Report: A True Crime Podcast: "Hometown Legends Volume 2: The Corpsewood Manor Murders"
    Beers With Queers: A True Crime Podcast: Episode 2 "The Corpsewood Manor Murders"
     
     
     
    Graphic Art By: Taylor Poe
    Music By:
    https://www.fesliyanstudios.com/royalty-free-music/download/shady-business/2181
     

    • 1 hr 3 min
    Case Number 87: The Suspicious Fall of Bonnie Craig

    Case Number 87: The Suspicious Fall of Bonnie Craig

    When Bonnie's body was found at the bottom of a cliff just off a hiking trail, her family was in utter shock and disbelief. The park was nowhere near where she was supposed to be that day and it was completely out of character for her to stray from her routine.
    Karen, Bonnie's Mother, was further shocked when she arrived at the medical examiner's office to identify her body. She recognized the bruises and wounds on Bonnie's hands and arms as defense injuries. That began a 17 year journey to finding justice for Bonnie and advocating for stricter DNA laws.
    Tune in as Elysia takes us through the lengthy process of elimination in the investigation and possibly the most suspenseful trial we've covered. Meanwhile, Savannah is flabbergasted at the number of potential suspects Bonnie knew. 
     
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    Sources:
    Dateline: Justice for Bonnie, Season 20, Episode 18
     
    Justice for Bonnie by Karen Foster and I.J. Schecter
     
    https://justiceforbonnie.com/
     
    http://www.sitnews.us/0507news/050207/050207_shns_dna_arrest.html
     
    https://www.fosters.com/story/news/2007/05/13/cold-case-unites-mothers-on/52506313007/
     
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kenneth-dion-ex-soldier-on-trial-for-1994-murder-of-alaska-coed-bonnie-craig/
     
    https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/article/defendant-guilty-bonnie-craig-murder/2011/06/16/
     
     
     
     
    Graphic Art By: Taylor Poe
    Music By:
    https://www.fesliyanstudios.com/royalty-free-music/download/shady-business/2181

    • 56 min
    Case Number 86: The Society Murders

    Case Number 86: The Society Murders

    The prominent and wealthy Wales family dynamic had long been complicated but tensions rose when matriarch, Margaret Wales-King, and her husband, Paul King, both went missing. When it was discovered that Margaret's youngest son, Matthew, and his wife, Maritza, were the last to see Margaret and Paul, the rest of her children wanted answers. Instead, they got a lot of dramatics as Matthew would do nothing but sob and act out every time they spoke with him.
    Detectives quickly found some potential motives and the couple were the number one suspects. When their bodies were found, detectives had all the physical evidence they needed and when faced with murder charges, Maritza confessed everything she knew.
    Tune in as Savannah gives us the details one of the worst planned crimes we've seen and Elysia explains that this is why one shouldn't try to control inheritance from the grave.
     
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    Sources:
    https://www.theage.com.au/national/murder-in-the-family-20030411-gdvivr.html
    Bonney, Hilary (2003). The Society Murders: The True Story of the Wales-King Murders.
     
     
    Graphic Art By: Taylor Poe
    Music By:
    https://www.fesliyanstudios.com/royalty-free-music/download/shady-business/2181

    • 1 hr
    Case Number 85: The Kirtland Cult Killings

    Case Number 85: The Kirtland Cult Killings

    When the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints rejected Jeffrey Lundgren from both a position as the Kirtland Temple Guide and Sunday School Teacher, his already disturbing beliefs became completely unhinged. Having already developed a following of individuals within the church, he convinced many of them that it would be their Godly mission to oust the current church elders and recapture the Temple to bring about a long time mormon belief. As the plan took shape, Jeffrey's vision grew increasingly violent.
    Fortunately for the church, local police became suspicious and began working with the FBI to put a stop to the plan. Unfortunately for Jeffrey's followers, he caught on and the plans changed along with who he condemned. They would instead go out to live in the wilderness for a time to meet Jesus. He insisted they could only do so if they rid themselves of the worst sinners and according to him that was a family with 3 young children.
    Tune in as Elysia works really hard to get this horrific story out of her system and Savannah is truly left angry and speechless. Then plan on taking a mental health break because this one's a doozy!
     
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    Sources:
    Cult Justice: The Cult Tapes; Season 1, Episode 5
    https://www.news-herald.com/2014/12/30/kirtland-cult-killings-timeline-of-events/
    https://fox2now.com/news/true-crime/true-crime-dinner-invite-ends-in-missouri-family-cult-killing/
    https://www.news-herald.com/2014/12/30/kirtland-cult-killings-the-prison-sentences/
    https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-01-13-me-188-story.html
    https://casetext.com/case/state-v-lundgren-1
    https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/us-6th-circuit/1105132.html
    https://case-law.vlex.com/vid/state-v-lundgren-1993-892948386
    https://murderpedia.org/male.L/images/l/lundgren_jeffrey_don/lundgren_jeffrey.pdf
    https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/ohio-cult-leader-executed-for-slaying-family-of-5/
    https://casetext.com/case/state-v-lundgren-7
    https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/mormons-timeline/
    https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/fundamentalist-church-jesus-christ-latter-day-saints
    Timesuck | The Kirtland Cult Killings and Jeffrey Lundgren: 1 of 2
    https://www.jstor.org/stable/43200280
    https://appgateway.drc.ohio.gov/OffenderSearch/Search/Details/W025516
    https://appgateway.drc.ohio.gov/OffenderSearch/Search/Details/A224420
    https://appgateway.drc.ohio.gov/OffenderSearch/Search/Details/A237062
    https://appgateway.drc.ohio.gov/OffenderSearch/Search/Details/A230044
    https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/2007/11/14/site-ohio-cult-murders-razed/23329962007/
    https://krcgtv.com/news/local/alleged-child-abuser-had-cult-murderer-father
    https://www.cantonrep.com/story/news/crime/2010/03/05/father-jailed-in-infant-abuse/64062068007/
     
     
     
     
     
    Graphic Art By: Taylor Poe
    Music By:
    https://www.fesliyanstudios.com/royalty-free-music/download/shady-business/2181

    • 1 hr 32 min

Customer Reviews

4.5 out of 5
41 Ratings

41 Ratings

SticksMcGee123 ,

Makes Thursdays Exciting!

This podcast is one of a kind, every Thursday I get excited to hear Elysia and Savannah talk about these unique stories. You can see their intelligent and witty nature in every case they share. Love your work!

IAMNartgirl ,

True Crime with a Quasi-Legal Amusing Commentary

The hosts, Savannah and Elysia, present true crime cases with an amusing, quasi-legal commentary. I respect their non-biased reporting of the case facts. The differences in the hosts’ ages, life stories and lifestyles allow for lively discussion of the cases from each’s unique perspective. The cases presented are interesting and well-researched. The discussions are intelligent and humorous. I look forward to listening to this podcast every week!

Kwehri4 ,

Nope

I can’t listen anymore. The one hosts voice is so shaky I always feel like she’s crying. I also dispose the banter and jokes they make. It comes across very unprofessional and immature.

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