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A fortnightly podcast from the Spectator on the latest in Chinese politics, society, and more. From Huawei to Hong Kong, Cindy Yu talks to experts, journalists, and long time China-watchers on what you need to know about China.

Chinese Whispers The Spectator

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    • 4.5 • 118 Ratings

A fortnightly podcast from the Spectator on the latest in Chinese politics, society, and more. From Huawei to Hong Kong, Cindy Yu talks to experts, journalists, and long time China-watchers on what you need to know about China.

    Why China loves Taylor Swift

    Why China loves Taylor Swift

    ‘Swifties’, as Taylor Swift’s fans are known across the world, are extremely dedicated to the cause, and often estimated to drive up local economies wherever they flock, and Chinese fans are no different. Swift didn’t perform in China on the latest global tour, but that didn’t stop more wealthy fans flying to Singapore to see her; or the less wealthy, going to cinemas in China to watch the Taylor Swift Eras Tour documentary – which has broken box office records in China.

    All this got me thinking – how popular is American, and western, pop music in China in general? Is it considered mainstream, or something a bit more indie compared to Chinese pop? Is the language barrier a problem, or censorship?

    On this episode I'm joined by two people very much in the know. Alex Taggart is an artist manager who has previously worked as a DJ and a Nightlife columnist in China. Jocelle Koh also works in the music industry and founded the media platform Asian Pop Weekly.

    They tell me about Chinese opera-style covers of Adele and explain how an American missile system brought down K-Pop in China...

    We also mention a range of our favourite viral videos featuring western pop in China. Links here:
    Vlogger Lorelei in Singapore
    Countryside Nicki Minaj
    'Low low low your boat'
    Last Emperor Puyi dancing to Harry Styles
    Chinese opera Adele

    • 46 min
    Shock To The System (II): How China's electric cars dominated the world

    Shock To The System (II): How China's electric cars dominated the world

    The EU and US are turning up the pressure on Chinese made electric cars, as I discussed with my guest Finbarr Bermingham on the last episode. 

    On this episode, I want to take a closer look at how China has come to dominate the global electric car market. Chinese EVs make up 60 per cent of worldwide sales, and a third of global exports. Its leading brand, BYD, now regularly gives Tesla a run for its money in terms of number of cars sold. 

    How much of a role do subsidies play, versus other factors like its control of rare earths or lower labour costs? Is there really an overcapacity issue that suggests a flooding of Chinese cars globally?

    On this episode, I'm joined by Zeyi Yang, China tech reporter at MIT Technology Review, who is an expert on the genealogy of China’s EV industry.

    • 34 min
    Shock To The System (I): Can the EU fend off the threat of Chinese electric cars?

    Shock To The System (I): Can the EU fend off the threat of Chinese electric cars?

    The EU and China are in the foothills of a trade war. After a seven month investigation, the European Commission has announced tariffs of up to 38 per cent on electric cars from China, citing that they’ve found ‘subsidies in every part of the supply chain’. In retaliation, China has ramped up its own investigations into imports from the EU.

    This, of course, comes after the US has announced its own 100 per cent tariff on Chinese electric cars.

    Listeners will know that Chinese electric cars are becoming ever more competitive. In just three years, the value of the EU’s imports of Chinese EVs have surged tenfold – from $1.6 billion in 2020 to $11.5 billion last year. The Commission has warned that Chinese electric cars could make up 15 per cent of the EU market by next year. 

    What are the ramifications of these new tariffs? Is there anything that will reverse this new tide of protectionism? On this episode, I’m talking to Finbarr Bermingham, Europe correspondent at the South China Morning Post, who patches in from Brussels.

    • 29 min
    How would Britain's Labour party change UK-China relations?

    How would Britain's Labour party change UK-China relations?

    In less than a month’s time, Britain may well have a new prime minister – and a different ruling party. Under 14 years of the Conservative party, the UK’s approach to China has swung from the sycophancy of the golden era to fear and loathing under Liz Truss, stabilising in the last couple of years to a compete but engage approach, all while public opinion on China has hardened following the Hong Kong protests and the pandemic.

    What will a new government bring? Will the managerialism of Keir Starmer change UK-China relations much from the managerialism of Rishi Sunak? This is not a hypothetical question as Labour looks set to win the election and the question, now, is how big the Conservative losses will be.

    I’m joined in this episode by someone who has spent years looking at this issue. Sam Hogg is a political analyst who has covered China as seen by Westminster for years, under the newsletter he founded, Beijing to Britain. He last came on the podcast to discuss Liz Truss’s views on China – a lot has changed then.

    Produced by Cindy Yu and Joe Bedell-Brill.

    • 33 min
    Life in a changing China

    Life in a changing China

    Since 1978, China has changed beyond recognition thanks to its economic boom. 800 million people have been lifted out of poverty as GDP per capita has grown eighty times. Some 60 per cent of the country now live in cities and towns, compared to just 18 per cent before.

    But you know all this. What’s less talked about is what that does to the people and families who live through these changes. What is it like to have such a different life to your parents before you, and your grandparents before then? How have people made the most of the boom, and what about those who’ve been left behind?

    A fascinating new book, Private Revolutions, tells the personal stories of four millennial women who were born as these changes took place. Its author, Yuan Yang, is a former Financial Times journalist and now a Labour party candidate, standing in the next election. She joins this episode.

    Further listening: Life on the margins: how China’s rural deprivation curbs its success, with Professor Scott Rozelle.

    Produced by Cindy Yu and Joe Bedell-Brill.

    • 39 min
    China's vendetta against Nato

    China's vendetta against Nato

    Last week, President Xi Jinping visited Serbia. An unexpected destination, you might think, but in fact the links between Beijing and Belgrade go back decades. One event, in particular, has linked the two countries – and became a seminal moment in how the Chinese remember their history.

    In 1999, the Chinese embassy in Belgrade was bombed by US-led Nato forces. Three Chinese nationals died. An accident, the Americans insisted, but few Chinese believed it then, and few do today. The event is still remembered in China, but now, little talked about in the West.

    Xi’s visit was timed to the 25th anniversary of the bombing itself. ‘The China-Serbia friendship, forged with the blood of our compatriots, will stay in the shared memory of the Chinese and Serbian peoples’, Xi wrote for a Serbian paper ahead of the visit.

    So what exactly happened that night in May, and what does the event – and its aftermath – tell us about Chinese nationalism today?

    Cindy Yu is joined by Peter Gries, Professor of Chinese Politics at Manchester University and author of numerous books on China, including China’s New Nationalism: Pride, Politics and Diplomacy.

    • 46 min

Customer Reviews

4.5 out of 5
118 Ratings

118 Ratings

唐思德 ,

I always look forward to this one

I listen to just about every Englis-language podcast show about China news. It takes guts to get out there and publicly say anything about this subject without getting excoriated by either the Panda Huggers or Dragon Slayers. Cindy Yu is a commendable host and IMHO doesn’t come off being biased against China at all. These nitpicks about “she said this or said that” are so sad and reveal more about the reviewer than the show. Overall Chinese Whispers is as informative as it is entertaining. I listen cover to cover to every episode. Cindy Yu has a foot in both worlds and delivers the content and the interviews in a way that is authoritative and relatable. Don’t be swayed by West haters and China haters. Listen to this show that I suggest, is presented intelligently and offers us listeners food for thought to draw our own opinions.

Jonathan Kyle, Washington DC ,

Highly Informative and Engaging

This podcast is absolutely essential listening for anyone interested in China. But even if you have never thought much about China, really any person with a curious and analytical mind seeking to better understand the world should get a lot out of it. Highlights include the episodes on Chinese cuisine, Chinese dialects, Chinese characters, ketamine use in China, and of course the numerous deep dives into current affairs, social issues and politics in China. The host, Cindy Yu finds a wide range of interesting guests to talk with. She is a skilled interviewer who is clearly deeply knowledgeable about the subject matter. I highly recommend giving it a listen!

xi didi ,

It’s starting to go downhill

In the latest episode. The question should be, how can EU consumers benefit from affordable and environment-saving EVs. But she goes, “the threat of Chinese EVs”??

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