29 episodes

Conflict of Interest is a podcast about the world, through a discerning lens of journalism, politics and above all Vermont. Kevin Ellis goes against the grain of today’s politics and celebrity culture to talk about the massive change all around us and how the world actually works. You will hear from Kevin’s Vermont neighbors AND national voices on difficult issues. Vermont is becoming, or always has been, a place, a real place. We are not interested in the Vermont of the tourist guides. We are not going to talk to Ben and Jerry’s ice cream. We will talk to them about what it is like to sell the company and do something new - and the frustrations, fear and uncertainty that comes with changing your life. Part interview, part history lesson about stuff you won’t see or hear on CNN or NPR.

Conflict of Interest Kevin Ellis

    • Society & Culture
    • 5.0 • 6 Ratings

Conflict of Interest is a podcast about the world, through a discerning lens of journalism, politics and above all Vermont. Kevin Ellis goes against the grain of today’s politics and celebrity culture to talk about the massive change all around us and how the world actually works. You will hear from Kevin’s Vermont neighbors AND national voices on difficult issues. Vermont is becoming, or always has been, a place, a real place. We are not interested in the Vermont of the tourist guides. We are not going to talk to Ben and Jerry’s ice cream. We will talk to them about what it is like to sell the company and do something new - and the frustrations, fear and uncertainty that comes with changing your life. Part interview, part history lesson about stuff you won’t see or hear on CNN or NPR.

    The Dark Side of Capitalism with David Bollier

    The Dark Side of Capitalism with David Bollier

    Author and Activist David Bollier explains The Commons, a different kind of economic system that values people over profits and puts cooperative action at the center of society instead of companies or the government. Bollier explains the concept of “enclosures’’ and the misunderstanding of the famous essay “Failure of the Commons.’’ Far from a fringe movement, The Commons is here to stay.

    • 37 min
    Can We Eliminate Nuclear Weapons? Author Ward Wilson thinks so

    Can We Eliminate Nuclear Weapons? Author Ward Wilson thinks so

    Author and activist Ward Wilson believes we can eliminate nuclear weapons and not because he is a woo woo liberal. Wilson has talked to the Generals, the diplomats and former presidents of countries. His experience led him to believe that worldwide elimination is possible because the weapons are not “useful’’ and because a nuclear mistake is more and more likely to happen. His central thesis is that since the development of the atomic bomb, a hazy and lazy argument has grown up around the weapons that make it difficult to think clearly about how to deal with them. The result: Wilson’s latest book -  “It is Possible: A Future without Nuclear Weapons.’’ It is endorsed by not one, not two, but seven Nobel Laureates and at least two former four-star generals, one of whom commanded the nuclear arsenal. The nuclear weapons historian Richard Rhodes calls Wilson’s work a “stunning breakthrough work’’ that gives us a way out from under what John Kennedy called the nuclear sword of Damacles. 
    Martin Sherwin, a Pulitzer Prize winning historian and the author of the great book about Robert J. Oppenheimer called Wilson’s book: “Arguably the most important contribution to the debate over the efficacy of nuclear deterrence ever written.”
    And the mayor of Nagazaki, Japan said: ““Ward Wilson’s book assures us that our vision of a “world without nuclear weapons” is not only possible but the only rational way to protect humanity and the planet from another Hiroshima and Nagasaki.”
    With recommendations like that, I wanted to know how someone could have broken through the fog and the paralysis in the country around nuclear weapons policy. 
    I’ve known Wilson for 35 years. He has been working on this book his whole adult life. And the historians, generals and heads of state are saying he is on to something big. Join us as we take it on.

    • 36 min
    Wales Shows Us the Way

    Wales Shows Us the Way

    In 2015, Wales (a country) passed a law called the Future Generations Act. And they made Sophie Howe the first Commissioner for Future generations in the World. Her job - make sure all government agencies consider the interest of future generations in everything they do. Doesn’t government always do that? Turns out the answer is No. Howe joined me for a conversation on a visit to Vermont to explain how the Welsh are doing things right - or at least better. When the Welsh government wants to build a new highway, they have to get the approval of the commissioner for Future generations. Howe didn’t have the power to veto anything. But she used the bully pulpit to force the highway agency to bring more facts to the table. The result? No highway and more government spending on bikeways and pedestrian priorities. Howe’s visit to Vermont was sponsored by a small group of UVM professors and activists uniting around the issue of well being, of forcing government agencies to consider the actual well being of the people before they act. Sounds easy, or revolutionary. Let’s listen to Sophie Howe explain it.

    • 31 min
    The JFK Assassination Still Haunts us with Jefferson Morley

    The JFK Assassination Still Haunts us with Jefferson Morley

    No event I can think of has defined America since World War 2 than the assasination of President John F. Kennedy. On November 22, 1963, Kennedy was murdered while riding in an open car in the streets of Dallas Texas while on political visit there. You know the story so well. Lee harvey Oswald was arrested and accised of the crime. Oswald was then shot and killed while in the hands of police by shadowy underworld figure Jack Ruby.
    A commission appointed by Kennedy’s successor Lyndon Johnson issued a report that Oswald was the lone gunman, able to fire two shots hitting Kennedy at long range with a sniper rifle. And for 60 years, millions of Americans then and now do not believe the Warren Commission conclusion. 
    My guest, Jefferson Morley, is the nation’s top expert on the assassination. He casts doubt on the entire saga, from the Warren Commission investigation, to the murky and scandalous role of the CIA. The agency told the Warren commission it knew little about Oswald before the killing. Turns out that was a lie; that the CIA was in fact monitoring Oswald for weeks before the assassination. And records and memos to prove that are contained in CIA files, only recently declassified at the order of President Biden.
    Morley is an author of several books and a newsletter and podcast called JFK Facts, which explores the never ending questions around the case.
    As Morley says, incredibly - No one has ever been charged with a crime for the assassination. We dont know who did it. I made sure to ask Morley who he thinks killed Kennedy.
    Join us.

    • 42 min
    The Future of Movies with Keenan Ellis

    The Future of Movies with Keenan Ellis

    The strike. The future of streaming. The future of theaters. What makes a great film. What is your favorite film and why? It’s all here with writer, editor and producer Keenan Ellis, who joins his Dad to talk about the same stuff they usually talk about at dinner.

    • 37 min
    Robin Steinberg and the Injustice of the Criminal Justice System

    Robin Steinberg and the Injustice of the Criminal Justice System

    Public defender Robin Steinberg couldn’t accept that people without money are housed in jails all over the country, not because they are guilty, but because they can’t afford bail.
    So she started the Bail Project, an organization dedicated to eradicating the use of cash bail. The Bail Project actually pays the bail of the accused so they can be free from prison while the charges against them are dealt with by the criminal justice system.
    Steinberg has been a public defender for more than 35 years. She has represented thousands of low income people accused of crimes, trained other public defenders and founded other organizations - namely the Bronx defenders In NY and Still She Rises, in Oklahoma. She has taught at Columbia and UCLA, given a TED Talk and is a featured speaker worldwide on criminal justice reform.
    Steinberg is the author of the new book - The Courage of Compassion - A Journey from Judgment to Connection, about her experience inside the system.

    • 40 min

Customer Reviews

5.0 out of 5
6 Ratings

6 Ratings

Ward Wilson ,

Excellent

Kevin has, to an exceptional degree, an ability to connect with people and put them at ease. It is an essential skill if you want to create an excellent podcast. 

The best podcasts are not the ones where the guest is constantly on guard and woodenly reciting a standard pitch or story. The best podcasts sound like interesting conversations. Kevin gets this from his guests. They relax a bit, unbend a bit, and end up saying things in a way that is more human and more interesting than all but a handful of podcasts. At the same time, he has the ability to ask tough questions without making them sound like attacks. I can’t figure out how he does this, but he consistently does. And these tough questions force his guests to go to the core of the issue.

As a result the show is consistently interesting while confronting important issues. It’s a powerful combination. Recommended highly.

J-Spesh ,

Fantastic

This is a great show. Love the insight and conversation. Host does a great job.

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