Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/791 Presented By: Pescador on the Fly, Patagonia, Mountain Waters Resort, Intrepid Camp Gear. Sponsors: Https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors On this episode, we sit down with Wesley Hodges, a decorated military veteran turned premier fly fishing and hunting guide in Virginia. Wesley shares the wild journey that led him from a cane pole in Texas to discovering fly fishing at a Boy Scout camp, to a life-changing decision made in a tiki bar in Ecuador. What followed was the creation of Virginia’s first dedicated fly fishing and hunting lodge—an operation that now runs year-round across some of the most remote and productive water systems in the Eastern U.S. Right now, you'll discover why Virginia may be the "New West" for fly fishing, how to rethink your entire approach to trip planning, and the subtle techniques that make all the difference when targeting trophy Smallmouth bass. Wesley unpacks the essence of crafting full-circle outdoor experiences—one that fuses drift boats, dogs, wild trout, and grouse—all under one roof. Whether you're a seasoned angler or new to the game, this one is loaded with tactical gold. Wesley with a Smallmouth Bass Show Notes on Smallmouth Bass with Wesley Hodges 1:13 - Wesley Hodges discovered fly fishing as a teen at a Boy Scout camp, but it wasn’t until after his military service that he returned to the sport. That rediscovery led him to launch Virginia’s first dedicated fly fishing and hunting lodge, where he now guides guests through some of the state’s wildest rivers. 5:41 - After a transformative period living in Ecuador, Wesley Hodges returned to Virginia and launched a guiding business that evolved into the state’s first true fly fishing and hunting lodge. Located in Eagle Rock at the confluence of the Cowpasture and Jackson rivers, his lodge now operates year-round with a full staff, offering multi-day fishing and hunting experiences across a vast, fishable watershed. Here for more information. 9:58 - While Virginia has trout, Wesley Hodges positions the state as a true smallmouth bass destination. With fishable waters nearly year-round—from March through Thanksgiving—he emphasizes that fly fishing is a tool for all species, and smallmouth are the primary focus across his guided trips. 11:34 - Wesley explains that smallmouth bass fishing in Virginia transitions from pre-spawn in early spring to a topwater-focused season from mid-June through early October. During summer, anglers throw frog patterns and poppers all day, targeting big fish in just 1.5 feet of water, only inches from the riverbank. 14:01 - Wesley emphasizes that the biggest smallmouth are often found just inches from the riverbank, citing an old rule: “one inch from the bank equals a 20-inch fish.” Subtle depressions and undercut edges create ideal ambush spots for fish feeding on crayfish, cicadas, and frogs, making precise casting near the bank both strategic and more engaging for anglers. 15:24 - Wesley and his team primarily use Blue Ridge drift boats for guiding, having moved away from rafts due to the boats’ quiet, low-impact design, ideal for shallow Virginia waters. Built from durable UHMW material, these boats slide silently over rocks—minimizing fish disturbance—and come with exceptional on-site support, making them perfect for their smallmouth operations. 21:21 - Wesley leads summer topwater floats through Virginia’s river systems, favoring evening windows from 6:00 to 8:30 PM when the smallmouth bite peaks. His team utilizes highly technical rigs—customized floating lines, 10 to 13-foot leaders, and lightweight crayfish patterns—to quietly target fish in low, clear water, where precision and stealth are essential. 24:45 - Wesley’s team targets calm tailouts with floating lines, casting downstream close to the bank so flies reach the fish before the boat does. In these slow waters, they dead-drift subtle poppers for up to 20 seconds, drawing in large smallmouth with minimal movement and intense visual takes. 27:19 - Wesley and his team primarily use Boogle Bugs in size 4 for topwater—favoring yellow, white, and electric blue sliders or poppers depending on fish behavior. When bass grow picky, they switch to more subtle patterns like Mr. Wiggle Legs, observing how fish react and adjusting presentations based on subtle visual cues. 33:42 - Wesley shares that his guides typically float rather than anchor, covering 4 to 12 miles depending on water levels, through remote stretches of western Virginia rivers where development is scarce. With vast tracts of farmland and surrounding public lands like George Washington and Jefferson National Forests, anglers experience a true wilderness float, often without seeing another boat all day. 36:27 - Wesley shares that anglers from around the world, including Europe and beyond, are now traveling to Virginia to fish its wild rivers and experience its remote beauty. They've trademarked the phrase “Virginia is the New West” to highlight that the state's rugged landscapes rival those out west, with strong local efforts to keep it preserved. 38:46 - In addition to fishing, Wesley’s operation offers a standout upland bird hunting experience focused on wild grouse and woodcock. His team has spent over a decade scouting remote Appalachian terrain to locate thriving bird populations rarely accessed by other hunters. 40:45 - Wesley’s outfitting service offers popular turkey and upland bird hunts, with seasons spanning October to March for grouse and woodcock, and April to May for turkey. His cast-and-blast packages are highly sought after, often selling out early due to his expert-guided approach and deep understanding of Virginia’s diverse terrain. 42:58 - Wesley’s team regularly welcomes newcomers to hunting, offering educational experiences centered around wild game and conservation. Beginners are guided through the full process—from casting or dog-assisted upland hunts to cleaning and preparing the birds—without needing to purchase any gear upfront, making it accessible and informative. 47:00 - In spring, Wesley notes that anglers enjoy prime smallmouth bass and wild trout fishing as warming waters trigger aggressive pre-spawn feeding. This season also offers the chance to mix in a day of bird hunting before preserve seasons close in mid-to-late April. 51:33 - Wesley explains that anglers with personal boats can freely access the region’s smallmouth waters via public launches. However, trout fishing on the Jackson River is more complicated due to King's Grant laws—some sections legally prohibit fishing, even while floating through. Because of this, he recommends hiring a guide to avoid potential trespassing fines, which can be severe. 56:38 - Wesley shared that in summer, his essential gear includes Chaco flip flops and Patagonia’s natural fiber sun hoodies for breathability and sun protection. He also highlighted the Orvis Tippe boat bag and Helios rods, noting their beginner-friendly design that makes it easy to feel the rod load for more effective casting. 60:31 - Wesley emphasized that proper casting tempo and thumb positioning are crucial for fly casting success. He advises anglers to slow down their cast and lead with the thumb on both the back and forward casts, helping maintain control and avoid excessive wrist break, which can misalign the rod and fly line. 63:00 - Wesley emphasized that smallmouth bass are almost always willing to eat, especially if anglers present a crayfish imitation, which makes up the bulk of their diet. While known for their aggression, he noted they can also become selective, often requiring smaller flies and longer leaders in shallow, clear water to entice strikes. 67:00 - Wesley shared that he's been living full-time in his 30-foot Airstream, which he keeps parked at the lodge during the season and uses to travel for bird hunting in the off-season. From a third-party perspective, his deep appreciation for the Airstream reflects his commitment to durability, mobility, and comfort. This lifestyle choice complements his work as a guide and outdoorsman. Conclusion with Wesley Hodges on Smallmouth Bass In this episode, Wesley Hodges shares expert insight into smallmouth bass behavior, fly presentation, and how subtle changes in river topography—like those shallow bankside ditches—can hold surprisingly big fish. He explains the legal complexities of Virginia’s Jackson River, offers practical tips for solo anglers, and emphasizes the value of hiring a guide to avoid trouble. Wesley also reveals his must-have gear, from Chaco flip-flops to the latest Orvis rods, and explains why crayfish patterns are a reliable go-to when targeting smallmouth. From stealth casting tips to surprising shallow-water hotspots, this episode is packed with knowledge for serious anglers. What’s the most surprising place you’ve ever hooked a big smallmouth bass? Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/791
