David Simas interviewed by Jon Kabat-Zinn

David Simas was one of President Obama's key advisors in the White House and now heads up the Obama Foundation as CEO. David has experienced an America that very few of us get to see up close and personal and in this intimate discussion with mindfulness teacher, Jon Kabat-Zinn, David will share his lessons as a mindfulness practitioner in the White House, why mindfulness matters to him, and how he sees it may be incorporated in training the next generation of leaders. Together they explore the next wave of engagement and mindful leadership in our world.

Topics David and Jon discuss:

• Emphasis on the idea of “none of us have gotten to where we are by ourselves"
• Tribalism vs. Community and how trust shapes this
• Digging into the root rather than the “I’m right, you’re wrong” frame of mind
• How we can build a coalition and have difficult conversations with people who disagree
• Working from the grassroots up
• Citizen engagement and our responsibility to our community
• How we can develop policy that is truly healing and transformative

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