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The show where we unpack the methods and tactics used to reduce CAC by the most efficient and fastest growing companies in tech. In each episode your host, Eli Rubel, founder of Matter Made, will evaluate how the best companies in the industry are driving down their cost to acquire while still achieving remarkable growth.

Demand Efficiency Elias Rubel

    • Business
    • 5.0 • 17 Ratings

The show where we unpack the methods and tactics used to reduce CAC by the most efficient and fastest growing companies in tech. In each episode your host, Eli Rubel, founder of Matter Made, will evaluate how the best companies in the industry are driving down their cost to acquire while still achieving remarkable growth.

    Lacework Director of Digital Marketing on Orchestrating and Implementing High-Quality Lead-Opportunity Handoffs to Drive Efficiency and Growth.

    Lacework Director of Digital Marketing on Orchestrating and Implementing High-Quality Lead-Opportunity Handoffs to Drive Efficiency and Growth.

    Podcast Summary
    In this conversation with Simon Chuang, Director of Digital Marketing at Lacework, he talks about orchestrating and implementing high-quality lead-opportunity handoffs to drive efficiency and growth.

    Today, you’ll hear about Lacework’s process and execution, their lead opportunity quality feedback loop, how they systematize data collection further down the funnel, the things that Simon would’ve done differently a year ago, and the exciting next frontier.

    Prior to joining Lacework, Simon served as the Manager of Digital Marketing and Web Strategy at Lam Research, Senior Marketing Manager at Revvo, and as Senior Digital Marketing Manager at Druva.

    Episode Outline
    [02:54] Lead opportunity quality feedback at Lacework.
    [05:00] The process and execution.
    [09:58] Systematizing data collection.
    [11:56] What Simon would’ve done differently.
    [14:20] What’s the next frontier?

    • 18 min
    Metadata Head of Brand and Product Marketing on Use-Case and Persona Specific Sequences

    Metadata Head of Brand and Product Marketing on Use-Case and Persona Specific Sequences

    Podcast Summary
    In this conversation with Mark Huber, Head of Brand and Product Marketing at Metadata, he talks about use-case and persona-specific sequences. Today, you’ll hear about moving from generic to persona-specific sequences, how the results have changed over time, an exciting future development for Metadata, and an important lesson that Mark has learned.
    Prior to joining Metadata, Mark served as Senior Manager of Marketing Operations at Uptake and Director of Demand Generation at Fast Radius. He currently serves as the host of the Demand Gen U Podcast, an advisor for Gated and Navattic, and as Marketing Director for Have Dreams. Mark holds a BSc in Marketing from the Indiana University Kelley School of Business.
    Episode Outline
    [05:34] Persona-specific sequences.
    [06:46] From generic sequences to persona-specific sequences.
    [09:57] How the results have changed.
    [12:12] What’s coming up for Metadata?
    [13:40] A lesson learned.
    [16:35] The selling motion.
    Connect with Mark
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    LinkedIn.
    Connect with Matter Made
    Matter Made.
    LinkedIn (Eli)

    • 19 min
    Gated CEO on creating seamless on-boarding experiences

    Gated CEO on creating seamless on-boarding experiences

    Podcast Summary
    In this conversation with Andy Mowat, Co-Founder of Gated, he talks about Gated’s demand efficiency levers. Today, you’ll hear about his approach to demand efficiency, the custom Chrome extension that they built, focusing on all the surfaces and experiences, and driving creativity. 
    Prior to founding Gated, Andy served as the VP of GTM Operations and Growth Marketing at Culture Amp, the Senior Director of Customer Success Operations at Box, the VP of Business Operations at Upwork, and COO at Prialto.
    Episode Outline
    [02:43] What is Gated? 
    [04:46] Approaching demand efficiency. 
    [06:00] Working through all the surfaces. 
    [07:30] The custom Chrome extension.  

    Connect with Dan
    Website
    LinkedIn

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    Matter Made
    LinkedIn (Eli)

    • 10 min
    Dan Frohnen on channel mix, tracking, and structuring teams for success

    Dan Frohnen on channel mix, tracking, and structuring teams for success

    Podcast Summary
    In this conversation with Dan Frohnen, CMO at PicnicHealth, talks about Channel Mix. Today, you’ll hear about PicnicHealth’s channel mix, Dan’s approach to channel diversification, choosing when to invest in new channels, keeping teams organized and productive, and the most common pitfalls.
    Prior to joining PicnicHealth, Dan served in numerous roles, including as the CMO of UpKeep, the CMO of Sendoso, the Executive VP of Marketing at Skedulo, and as VP of Global Demand Gen and Sales Development at Conga. 

    Episode Outline
    [06:05] PicnicHealth’s diversified channel mix. 
    [07:27] Approaching channel diversification. 
    [09:17] Investing in new channels. 
    [11:01] Keeping teams organized. 
    [13:18] Common channel mix pitfalls. 
    [14:59] The selling motion  

    Connect with Dan
    Website
    LinkedIn

    Connect with Matter Made
    Matter Made
    LinkedIn (Eli)

    • 16 min
    6Sense CMO and GTM Champion Uses Flawless ABM and Lead Management Programs to Drive ROI

    6Sense CMO and GTM Champion Uses Flawless ABM and Lead Management Programs to Drive ROI

    In this conversation with Latané Conant, CMO at 6sense, she talks about doing account-based marketing right. Today, you’ll hear about making demand centers more efficient, team structures at 6sense, ensuring an accurate source of truth, Latané’s most-used platforms, and the importance of saying ‘no’.  
    As CMO of 6sense, Latané is passionate about empowering marketing leaders with effective technology, predictive insights, and thought leadership so they can confidently lead their teams, company, and industry into the future. Prior to joining 6sense, Latané served as CMO and Sales Leader at Appirio. She also serves as a member of the Revenue Collective, and as Advisory Board Member for Mediafly and Atrium. 
    Episode Outline
    [05:13] The best way to have an efficient demand center. 
    [08:06] How Latané has structured her teams. 
    [11:05] Ensuring an accurate source of truth. 
    [13:04] Platforms that Latané can’t live without. 
    [14:33] Marketing leaders who should be on the show. 
    [15:08] 6sense’s selling motion.  
    Connect with Latané
    Website
    LinkedIn
    Connect with Matter Made
    Matter Made
    LinkedIn (Eli)

    • 17 min
    Checkr VP of Marketing Uses Experimentation and Hypothesis-Driven Testing to Benchmark Regularly and Drive Demand Efficiency

    Checkr VP of Marketing Uses Experimentation and Hypothesis-Driven Testing to Benchmark Regularly and Drive Demand Efficiency

    Podcast  
    In this conversation with Prachi Gore, VP of Marketing at Checkr, Inc, she talks about marketing and experimentation. Today, you’ll hear about Checkr’s lifecycle marketing, experimentation, how Checkr is set up for success, knowledge sharing, and some exciting areas of opportunity for the year ahead.
    Prachi Gore is an accomplished marketing leader with over 15 years of experience in marketing and consulting. Prior to joining Checkr, Prachi served as the VP of Marketing at SmartRecruiters, Manager of Global Web Marketing at SunPower Corporation, and Consultant at Emerson Electric.
    Episode Outline
    [03:25] Lifecycle marketing as a driver for growth
    [05:25] Lifecycle marketing metrics
    [06:45] Experimentation
    [09:50] Setting Checkr up for success
    [11:24] Institutionalizing the learnings
    [12:46] Areas of opportunity for the upcoming year
    Connect with Prachi
    Website
    LinkedIn
    Connect with Matter Made
    Matter Made
    LinkedIn (Eli)

    • 15 min

Customer Reviews

5.0 out of 5
17 Ratings

17 Ratings

ASobering ,

Such a wealth of knowledge! 🧠

This is one of the most insightful podcasts that I have ever come across! Elias does such a great job of sharing his wisdom and I love how he leads meaningful conversations with guests who bring so much experience to the table. Highly recommend checking this show out - you won’t be disappointed!

Jmartenspdx ,

Great stories and insight

The guests are fantastic and the host is top notch.

alohamafia ,

Well done and insightful

I'm a new listener and have really enjoyed listening to the Best in Saas on my daily hike. Elias is incredibly intuitive in how he engages his stellar guests. He makes it look easy but I know it is anything but easy to pull it off so consistently. I am in sales and coach sales people and founders. I've learned a a bunch already especially from the episodes that touch upon sales and startup situations that I have yet to encounter myself but surely will. Keep it up Elias!

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