FRIED. The Burnout Podcast

Cait Donovan
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FRIED: The Burnout Podcast by BurnBOLD™ BurnBOLD™ is the powerhouse matchup of burnout experts Cait Donovan and Sarah Vosen. Together, they host FRIED as part of their mission to #endburnoutculture — with deep, real, and sometimes hilariously practical advice (yes, like #peewhenyouneedtopee). Each week, you’ll hear raw stories, powerful coaching sessions, and practical strategies to help you drop the shame, blame, guilt, and judgment so you can heal from burnout and rebuild your life. Cait works globally as a keynote speaker and workshop leader, helping organizations and associations create burnout-proof cultures. Sarah guides individuals through burnout recovery using her signature UNFRIED process, working one-on-one or in small groups with people all over the world. Wherever you are in your burnout journey, FRIED is here to help you BurnBOLD™ and take your life back. Homepage: https://caitdonovan.com Podcast page: https://caitdonovan.com/fried UNFRIED page: https://caitdonovan.com/unfried

  1. Mita Mallick: Could Your Boss Be the Real Reason You’re Burnt Out?

    4天前

    Mita Mallick: Could Your Boss Be the Real Reason You’re Burnt Out?

    Burnout isn’t the end of your story. With Sarah Vosen’s guidance, recovery becomes not just possible—but sustainable. Learn more: https://caitdonovan.com/coaching Toxic bosses don’t only wear people down, they spark the very burnout cycles that drain whole teams. Cait Donovan talks with author and changemaker Mita Mallick about the damage bad leadership leaves behind and the toll it takes on both people and organizations. Mita shares personal stories, including her experience with a boss she nicknamed “Medusa,” whose intimidation and cruelty pushed her into anxiety and disengagement. That season of her career led to what she calls a “get out plan,” a way to take the energy of frustration and turn it into action through networking, reflection, and mapping a path forward. How do you know when it’s time to make your own plan, and what would change if you gave yourself permission to act before you hit the breaking point? The conversation also turns to the harder truth that under pressure any of us can slip into toxic behaviors. Mita and Cait explore why leadership requires self-awareness, accountability, and vulnerability rather than surface-level fixes or quick answers. Drawing from her new book “The Devil Emails at Midnight,” Mita challenges us to rethink how we respond to unhealthy work cultures and to consider the responsibility we each carry in shaping them. What kind of workplace are you helping to build, and how might things shift if you took ownership of the way you show up every day? Episode Breakdown: 00:00 Introduction to Fried, the Burnout Podcast 00:57 Meet Mita Mallick: Author of The Devil Emails at Midnight 02:26 Burnout Story: Surviving “Medusa” the Toxic Boss 09:09 Creating a “Get Out” Plan to Escape Burnout 17:13 Urgency Culture and Toxic Leadership Patterns 27:01 Workplace Bias, Pregnancy Penalties, and Burnout 31:37 Talent Hoarding and Betrayal at Work 38:19 Building Self-Awareness and Better Leadership Connect with Mita Mallick: Mita’s Website Follow Mita on Instagram Connect with Mita on LinkedIn Connect with Cait: Initial Call with Cait Initial Call with Sarah Burnout isn’t the end of your story. With Sarah Vosen’s guidance, recovery becomes not just possible—but sustainable. Learn more: https://caitdonovan.com/coaching Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm

    42 分钟
  2. Jerry Colonna: The Question That Changed How I See Burnout Forever

    9月7日

    Jerry Colonna: The Question That Changed How I See Burnout Forever

    Healing happens faster with guidance. Give yourself permission to ask for and receive help: https://caitdonovan.com/coaching. Burnout shows up in many ways, but at its core it often signals a life out of alignment. Cait Donovan sits down with executive coach and author Jerry Colonna to explore what happens when outward success hides an inner collapse. Jerry opens up about the years he spent chasing achievement as a venture capitalist and how every new milestone left him feeling worse instead of fulfilled. What does it mean when the world applauds your accomplishments but your soul feels heavier with each step forward? And how do we begin to untangle the beliefs that keep us performing long after they’ve stopped serving us? Jerry shares how radical self-inquiry became a way back to himself. Rather than a process of blame, it is a practice of curiosity, asking questions that cut through guilt and open space for conscious choice. He and Cait reflect on how early coping strategies like perfectionism may once have offered safety, yet can slowly erode well-being over time. They also look at the role of privilege and access in recovery, naming the tension between personal agency and systemic limits. Jerry’s story of “Grandfather Boulder” is a reminder that listening itself can be an act of healing. Could paying attention to our own pain, to each other, to the systems around us, the beginning of change? This episode invites you to consider what alignment looks like in your own life and how the ongoing work of inquiry can open the door to both resilience and growth. Episode Breakdown: 00:00 Welcoming Jerry Colonna 02:39 Jerry’s Burnout Story and Misalignment 08:03 Financial Success and the Burnout Trap 16:17 Radical Self-Inquiry as a Path to Healing 24:00 Choosing Life in the Depth of Burnout 30:06 Rewiring Beliefs and Making Conscious Choices 40:30 Personal Growth as an Act of Resistance 46:23 Grandfather Boulder and the Power of Listening Links Reboot: Authentic CEO Coaching and Leadership Development Connect with Jerry Colonna: Connect with Jerry on LinkedIn Follow Jerry on Instagram Connect with Cait: Initial Call with Cait Initial Call with Sarah Healing happens faster with guidance. Give yourself permission to ask for and receive help: https://caitdonovan.com/coaching. Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm

    52 分钟
  3. Coaching with Sarah: Get your Inner Critic Out of the Driver’s Seat

    8月31日

    Coaching with Sarah: Get your Inner Critic Out of the Driver’s Seat

    You don’t have to carry burnout alone. The right support can help you breathe again—start here: https://caitdonovan.com/coaching Burnout recovery gets real as Sarah Vosen sits down with an anonymous guest who feels trapped by perfectionism, people-pleasing, and the voice of an inner critic that makes self-compassion feel out of reach. In this episode, she’s trying something different for the podcast: a real-time coaching session. Her guest “Kate” describes how burnout began with constant illness and eventually knocked her flat, leaving her exhausted and uncertain about how to move forward. Years later, Kate still feels caught in a loop of trial and error, trying new practices, hoping for change, and losing faith when nothing seems to last. How do you find the courage to say no before your body forces you to? And how do you begin to quiet the inner critic that insists you’ll never get better? Through thoughtful coaching, Sarah helps Kate see the fear of saying no for what it is: a strategy that once kept her safe but now keeps her stuck. She offers a new way to look at recovery, like a scale that can slowly tip away from self-judgment and toward self-compassion with each small act of courage. Along the way, Kate begins to see how even the tiniest pieces of evidence, moments of asking for help, choosing rest, or protecting her needs, can start to shift the balance. This conversation opens a window into the real work of burnout recovery. It’s messy and slow, but it’s also a practice of rediscovering your voice, setting boundaries that protect your energy, and remembering that even a flicker of hope is proof that change is possible. Episode Breakdown: 00:00 Real-Time Coaching on Burnout Recovery 02:26 Kate’s Burnout Journey and First Signs of Collapse 05:09 Career Uncertainty and Feeling Stuck 10:52 Battling the Inner Critic and Self-Judgment 12:38 Fear of Saying No and People-Pleasing Patterns 14:13 Rediscovering Passion for Storytelling and Audio 20:08 Hyper-Independence and the Struggle to Ask for Help 24:02 The Core Loop: Avoiding “No” to Feel Safe but Staying Stuck 33:00 The Burnout Recovery Process and the Unfried Program 43:03 Practicing Self-Compassion During Setbacks 49:41 Building Evidence for Growth and Recovery Links Hailey Page Magee episode Kristin Neff episode Your Burnt Out Brain Is Mean, And A Liar episode Connect with Cait: Initial Call with Cait Initial Call with Sarah You don’t have to carry burnout alone. The right support can help you breathe again—start here: https://caitdonovan.com/coaching. Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm

    57 分钟
  4. Dr. Jen Wagner: Canyon Ranch Burnout Retreats Fall 2025

    8月24日

    Dr. Jen Wagner: Canyon Ranch Burnout Retreats Fall 2025

    Burnout Recovery works better with support. UNFRIED is our small group (5 people max!) coaching program to help guide you through your recovery. Apply now! [http://bit.ly/unfried] Burnout reaches far beyond the office, touching every layer of health, purpose, and identity, and Dr. Jen Wagner joins Cait Donovan to uncover what true recovery really looks like. As Chief Health and Performance Officer at Canyon Ranch, Dr. Wagner brings both professional expertise and lived experience, sharing how her own burnout as a young physician and mother reshaped her path and deepened her commitment to helping others heal. Together, she and Cait explore why burnout isn’t just mental exhaustion but a full-body, whole-life disruption that can strip away joy, relationships, and meaning. This episode shines a light on Canyon Ranch’s integrative model of care, where labs, glucose and cortisol monitoring, nutrition, mental health, and spiritual practices come together to give people the tools and support they need to rebuild. Recovery, they emphasize, is not an overnight solution but a 12 to 18 month journey of self-awareness, community, and purpose realignment. Along the way, they tackle the systemic pressures that push women leaders to the brink and the cultural belief that suffering through misery is a badge of honor. What emerges is a powerful reminder that joy and well-being are not luxuries but essentials, and that choosing recovery is one of the most important investments we can make in ourselves and the people we love. Episode Breakdown: 00:00 Meet Dr. Jen Wagner and the Burnout Retreat 03:28 How Burnout Reshapes Body, Identity, and Purpose 04:35 Recovery vs. Prevention of Burnout 06:56 Medical Testing and Biomarkers That Matter 10:18 Integrative Care and Community at Canyon Ranch 13:53 Dr. Jen Wagner’s Personal Burnout Story 22:09 Inside the Burnout Retreat Experience 29:12 Long-Term Recovery and Ongoing Support Connect with Dr. Jen Wagner: Canyon Ranch Canyon Ranch: Beat Burnout Follow Canyon Ranch on Instagram LinkedIn Connect with Cait: Initial Call with Cait Initial Call with Sarah Burnout Recovery works better with support. UNFRIED is our small group (5 people max!) coaching program to help guide you through your recovery. Apply now! [http://bit.ly/unfried] Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm

    38 分钟
  5. #straightfromcait: How Long Does Burnout Recovery Take

    8月17日

    #straightfromcait: How Long Does Burnout Recovery Take

    Burnout Recovery works better with support. UNFRIED is our small group (5 people max!) coaching program to help guide you through your recovery. Apply now! [http://bit.ly/unfried] Burnout recovery takes more than waiting for time to pass. It asks you to examine who you’ve been, who you want to be, and what kind of life will truly sustain you. In this #straightfromcait episode, Cait Donovan explores one of the questions she hears most often: how long does it take to heal from burnout?  Drawing on her own experience, client stories, and survey results from her community, Cait shares why most people need 12 to 18 months to recover, with some taking longer when deeper shifts are involved. The process can be stretched by the challenge of letting go of a “dream job,” the demands of caregiving, or the fear of stepping into unfamiliar territory. Recovery unfolds in cycles where you make a change, work through the emotions that follow, and then move into the next phase.  How do you handle the moments when your old identity no longer works? How do you adapt when your relationships change in ways you didn’t expect? This episode reveals why burnout pushes you toward a life that actually fuels you and why the journey, though demanding, is worth the effort. Episode Breakdown: 00:00 How Long Does Burnout Recovery Take 01:19 Typical Recovery Timelines and Survey Insights 02:32 Key Factors That Prolong Recovery 04:08 Caregiving Challenges and Boundary Setting 06:05 Emotional and Identity Shifts in Recovery 08:14 Why Burnout Requires a Life That Fuels You Connect with Cait: Initial Call with Cait: bit.ly/callcait Initial Call with Sarah: bit.ly/callsarahv Burnout Recovery works better with support. UNFRIED is our small group (5 people max!) coaching program to help guide you through your recovery. Apply now! [http://bit.ly/unfried] Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm

    10 分钟
  6. Burnout Recovery Exercise: Worst Case Scenario

    8月10日

    Burnout Recovery Exercise: Worst Case Scenario

    Burnout Recovery works better with support. UNFRIED is our small group (5 people max!) coaching program to help guide you through your recovery. Apply now! [http://bit.ly/unfried] Burnout can make every decision feel impossible. When you’re stuck in fear and second-guessing everything, how are you supposed to move forward in a way that actually feels right? In this episode, Cait Donovan shares a tool she’s used for years to help people get unstuck: the “Worst Case Scenario” exercise. Instead of pushing fear aside, Cait walks you through what it looks like to write it down, face it head-on, and figure out what you’d do if the worst really did happen. What if the job burns you out all over again? What if you don’t take it and money runs out? What then? This episode offers a different way to navigate those moments, one that makes space for fear without letting it take over. Cait also reminds us that support doesn’t have to come from big, obvious places. Sometimes it’s your local librarian. Sometimes it’s a Facebook group. There are more options than you think. If you’ve been feeling stuck and unsure what to do next, this is a place to start. Episode Breakdown: 00:00 Introduction to FRIED. The Burnout Podcast 00:00 Burnout Recovery and Cait’s Mission 01:28 The Worst Case Scenario Exercise Explained 03:35 Burnout Fear Example: Job Decision After Leave 05:01 What to Do If the Worst Happens 08:11 How to Build a Personal Safety Net 10:10 Exploring Alternate Outcomes 12:04 Final Thoughts and Encouragement Links Connect with Cait: Initial Call with Cait: bit.ly/callcait Initial Call with Sarah: bit.ly/callsarahv Burnout Recovery works better with support. UNFRIED is our small group (5 people max!) coaching program to help guide you through your recovery. Apply now! [http://bit.ly/unfried] Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm

    13 分钟
  7. #sarahshares: Getting Back on the Recovery Horse

    8月3日

    #sarahshares: Getting Back on the Recovery Horse

    Burnout Recovery works better with support. UNFRIED is our small group (5 people max!) coaching program to help guide you through your recovery. Apply now! [http://bit.ly/unfried] Burnout thrives in silence. This episode is your reminder that healing often starts with one simple but radical act: asking for help. Sarah Vosen, Director of Coaching at Burn Bold, shares a personal #sarahshares about finding herself stuck in exhaustion despite doing everything she thought she needed to recover. As a coach and acupuncturist, she’s used to helping others untangle their burnout, but this time, she needed someone else to help her remember what works. That turning point led her back to a grounding Qigong-inspired practice called “pulling down heavens,” which uses breath, movement, and intention to bring energy back into flow. Sarah’s story is a powerful reflection on how easy it is to slip into hyper-independence and how much shifts when we let ourselves receive support. If you’ve been tired for too long, this episode is a gentle nudge toward replenishment. Episode Breakdown: 00:00 Why Burnout Recovery Starts with Asking for Help 01:24 The Trap of Hyper-Independence and Self-Judgment 02:06 Why Even Coaches Need Coaches 03:54 How Refusing Help Fuels Burnout 04:39 Qigong and Daily Practices That Actually Work 06:14 Pulling Down Heavens: A Burnout Recovery Ritual 10:14 How to Make the Practice Stick 11:39 When It’s Time to Ask for Support Links Guided meditation: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0WGHqwQAVbZEY1qLC9XyZL?si=bf0217195beb4b2f Links to book 1:1 calls: bit.ly/callsarahv bit.ly/callcait Burnout Recovery works better with support. UNFRIED is our small group (5 people max!) coaching program to help guide you through your recovery. Apply now! [http://bit.ly/unfried] Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm

    13 分钟
  8. #straightfromcait: How to Change The Habit That Is Keeping You Stuck

    7月27日

    #straightfromcait: How to Change The Habit That Is Keeping You Stuck

    Burnout Recovery works better with support. UNFRIED is our small group (5 people max!) coaching program to help guide you through your recovery. Apply now! [http://bit.ly/unfried] Cait Donovan is back with a #straightfromcait episode that gets real about something most of us wrestle with quietly, how we soothe ourselves when things get hard, and what that looks like after burnout. This time, Cait’s digging into her long-standing sugar habit. Not the occasional treat, but the reflex to reach for something sweet when emotions start to build. She thought she’d done the work. And in many ways, she had. But what happens when one old pattern refuses to budge? What if the thing you’re avoiding isn’t the habit itself but the discomfort underneath it? With support from dietitian Sydney Green, Cait starts looking at her sugar story with a new kind of honesty, one that doesn’t involve shame or harsh rules. Instead of overhauling everything, she chooses one small shift: no more sugar in her coffee. That simple move starts a ripple effect, including tracking her blood sugar with a CGM and learning what her body’s been trying to say all along. This episode is an invitation to ask yourself the hard questions with compassion. What have you been unwilling to change? What would it feel like to start small and let that be enough? Episode Breakdown: 00:00 Sugar, Self-Neglect, and Burnout Recovery 02:16 How We Trick Ourselves Into Thinking We’ve Done the Work 03:10 Unpacking Lifelong Food Patterns with Sydney Green 04:26 Why Starting Small Actually Works 06:13 Using a CGM to Understand Sugar’s Impact 07:26 Real Healing Begins with Small, Honest Steps Links Connect with Cait: Initial Call with Cait: bit.ly/callcait Initial Call with Sarah: bit.ly/callsarahv Burnout Recovery works better with support. UNFRIED is our small group (5 people max!) coaching program to help guide you through your recovery. Apply now! [http://bit.ly/unfried] Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm

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FRIED: The Burnout Podcast by BurnBOLD™ BurnBOLD™ is the powerhouse matchup of burnout experts Cait Donovan and Sarah Vosen. Together, they host FRIED as part of their mission to #endburnoutculture — with deep, real, and sometimes hilariously practical advice (yes, like #peewhenyouneedtopee). Each week, you’ll hear raw stories, powerful coaching sessions, and practical strategies to help you drop the shame, blame, guilt, and judgment so you can heal from burnout and rebuild your life. Cait works globally as a keynote speaker and workshop leader, helping organizations and associations create burnout-proof cultures. Sarah guides individuals through burnout recovery using her signature UNFRIED process, working one-on-one or in small groups with people all over the world. Wherever you are in your burnout journey, FRIED is here to help you BurnBOLD™ and take your life back. Homepage: https://caitdonovan.com Podcast page: https://caitdonovan.com/fried UNFRIED page: https://caitdonovan.com/unfried

信息

  • 创作者
    Cait Donovan
  • 活跃年份
    2019年 - 2025年
  • 单集
    313
  • 分级
    儿童不宜
  • 版权
    © All works owned and produced by Cait Donovan LLC, 2022
  • 节目网站
    FRIED. The Burnout Podcast

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