Diverse Models: Embracing Imperfections and Realness with Dean Cleary Patterson

Hello fashion enthusiasts, and welcome to "Just A Fashion Minute"! I'm your host, David M. Watts, and I'm thrilled to bring you another exciting episode. This week, we have a very special guest, Dean Cleary Patterson, joining us to discuss diversity and inclusion in the fashion industry. We'll delve into the challenges and progress in representing models from different backgrounds, ethnicities, and body types.

We'll hear Dean's unconventional approach to scouting models and his emphasis on embracing imperfections and realness in their look. We'll also explore the impact of leading figures like Naomi Campbell, who are using their platforms to address these issues in the industry.

As always, we have our Just A Fashion Minute News Round Up to keep you updated on the latest buzz in the fashion world. From the impact of using phones during fashion shows to a debate on the industry's diversity in models, we've got you covered!

So, sit back, relax, and prepare to dive into the fascinating world of fashion with us. And don't forget to subscribe on your podcasting app of choice to stay in the loop with all our latest episodes. Let's get started!

Timestamps & Topics

00:00:00 - Introduction

David M. Watts introduces the podcast episode and the special guest, Dean Cleary Patterson. He sets the stage for a discussion on fashion, diversity, and representation in the modelling industry.

00:02:15 - Lack of Diversity in Fashion Industry

The conversation kicks off with a discussion on the lack of diversity in the fashion industry, particularly concerning the underrepresentation of people of colour in leadership positions in modelling agencies, fashion brands, and related industries. The impact of movements like Black Lives Matter on this issue is highlighted.

00:08:43 - Diversity and Inclusion Challenges

The conversation explores the challenges and setbacks in achieving diversity and inclusion in the fashion industry, including pay discrepancies, tokenism, and the perception of moving backward in terms of progress. The role of influential figures like Naomi Campbell in addressing these issues is also touched upon.

00:15:20 - Designing for Diverse Body Types

The discussion shifts to the challenges of designing for diverse body types in the fashion industry, and the industry's use of "sample size" measurements for catwalk shows. Dean Cleary Patterson highlights the need for openness and accommodation for diverse body types and muses in the fashion industry.

00:20:58 - Models' Well-Being and Agency's Approach

The conversation delves into the well-being of models, with a focus on issues such as severe dieting, burnout, and body image pressure. Dean Cleary Patterson's hands-on approach at his agency, D-One, is discussed, emphasising the responsibility of modelling agencies in addressing these issues.

00:25:40 - Personal Perspectives on Fashion

The hosts and guests express their personal perspectives on fashion, individuality in dressing, and the representation of models from different backgrounds, ethnicities, and body types. Dean Cleary Patterson explains his unconventional approach to scouting models, seeking imperfections and realness in their look.

00:30:00 - Industry Encounters and Unsung Heroes

Dean Cleary Patterson shares personal encounters in the fashion industry, from feeling out of place at a fashion show to discussing a now-closed boutique in Paris. He also mentions an unsung hero in the industry, James Scully, known for his honest critiques.

00:34:29 - Closing Remarks

David M. Watts and Dean Cleary Patterson wrap up the conversation, reflecting on the importance of diversity and openness in the fashion industry. Dean provides his Instagram handle, @d1models, for those interested in modelling advice or connecting with him.

Guest Bio

Dean Cleary Patterson is the founder of D1 Model Management, a pro