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The Doubts Aloud Podcast!

Join us as we allow doubts to be voiced regarding faith, religion and worldviews. Two of us have been Christians and none of us believe, so our current conclusion is that the doubts regarding Christianity are justified, but we are keen to question ourselves and hear Christian arguments and hear from Christian guests. Our background means that our conversation with Christianity will tend to dominate over other faiths.

We are Frances Janusz, Andrew Whyte and Ed Atkinson. We value the use of reason and evidence to assess matters of faith and worldview. (Should we doubt those assumptions?). We will consider philosophy, theology, Biblical Studies, human experience from the thinking layman’s viewpoint. We greatly value respect for those we disagree with and engaging in discussion. Meet us all in person at the monthly Unbelievable Christian and Skeptic Discussion Group in central London

https://www.meetup.com/Unbelievable-Christian-and-Skeptic-Discussion-Group-London

Andrew Whyte one of the hosts of Doubts Aloud has his own "Christian Diversity" YouTube Channel:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIyesuRCrlRFYCYs_XMDKhd_MAyeF8esH

For those not familiar with the Christian Premier Radio Unbelievable Show that we praise, it is podcast as “Unbelievable?” and on the web:
https://www.premierchristianradio.com/Shows/Saturday/Unbelievable

Andrew’s appearances on Unbelievable were 31/10/2009 on the Return of Jesus, 26/04/2014 with Greg Boyd on Doubt and 10/07/2015 with Nabeel Qureshi on Christian Diversity.
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The Doubts Aloud Podcast!

Join us as we allow doubts to be voiced regarding faith, religion and worldviews. Two of us have been Christians and none of us believe, so our current conclusion is that the doubts regarding Christianity are justified, but we are keen to question ourselves and hear Christian arguments and hear from Christian guests. Our background means that our conversation with Christianity will tend to dominate over other faiths.

We are Frances Janusz, Andrew Whyte and Ed Atkinson. We value the use of reason and evidence to assess matters of faith and worldview. (Should we doubt those assumptions?). We will consider philosophy, theology, Biblical Studies, human experience from the thinking layman’s viewpoint. We greatly value respect for those we disagree with and engaging in discussion. Meet us all in person at the monthly Unbelievable Christian and Skeptic Discussion Group in central London

https://www.meetup.com/Unbelievable-Christian-and-Skeptic-Discussion-Group-London

Andrew Whyte one of the hosts of Doubts Aloud has his own "Christian Diversity" YouTube Channel:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIyesuRCrlRFYCYs_XMDKhd_MAyeF8esH

For those not familiar with the Christian Premier Radio Unbelievable Show that we praise, it is podcast as “Unbelievable?” and on the web:
https://www.premierchristianradio.com/Shows/Saturday/Unbelievable

Andrew’s appearances on Unbelievable were 31/10/2009 on the Return of Jesus, 26/04/2014 with Greg Boyd on Doubt and 10/07/2015 with Nabeel Qureshi on Christian Diversity.
Doubts Aloud Links:

Please give feedback and ask questions using :
doubtsaloud@gmail.com

Join the Facebook Group discussions:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/247243319147813

Meet us all in person at the monthly “Unbelievable Christian and Skeptic Discussion Group” in central London, see:
https://www.meetup.com/Unbelievable-Christian-and-Skeptic-Discussion-Group-London

    Episode 41 - Animal Suffering and Theology with Phil Halper

    Episode 41 - Animal Suffering and Theology with Phil Halper

    Episode 41 – Show Notes

    It is a delight for us to have a long chat with our friend ‘SkydivePhil’ - Phil Halper. He’s best known for his YouTube channel and has twice been on Unbelievable discussing cosmology and also, for his first appearance, animal suffering. Phil is a vegetarian and sees how the issue of animal suffering is a much more powerful argument against theism than is generally realised. It is that subject that we were keen to discuss, especially because Phil and some of his contacts have just published an important paper on the topic. The paper is not so much philosophy/theology but focuses most on the science of animal pain and suffering, asking the question of the degree to which animals suffer as we do when they experience pain. The conclusions from this are vast, but we stick in this episode to how it informs arguments against theism based on what we now know of animal suffering.

    SkydivePhil’s Youtube channel is here
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtOgKmAM4MeFu-jd-HB3_cg

    The best link for Phil’s paper is here, it is free to read for its first three months https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/09515089.2021.1914829?src=&journalCode=cphp20

    Within the SkydivePhil channel, we suggest you look under “Animal videos” and especially Phil’s discussion with Randal Rauser:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoRm8Rg4Lh0

    Phil’s appearances on Unbelievable…..
    On Animal Suffering, with Michael Murray:
    https://www.premierchristianradio.com/Shows/Saturday/Unbelievable/Episodes/Unbelievable-Animal-suffering-and-God-Michael-Murray-vs-Phil-Harper
    On Big Bang:
    https://www.premierchristianradio.com/Shows/Saturday/Unbelievable/Episodes/Unbelievable-Has-the-Big-Bang-gone-bust-Phil-Harper-Jeff-Zweerink
    On Multiverse:
    https://www.premierchristianradio.com/Shows/Saturday/Unbelievable/Episodes/Unbelievable-Who-s-afraid-of-the-Multiverse-Jeff-Zweerink-Skydive-Phil

    For Sethien cosmology see here (OT God is evil, despite creating the world. Gospel of Judas etc)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sethianism

    The material that eventually led Phil into becoming vegetarian was from the philosopher Robert Nozick , it can be found here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchy,_State,_and_Utopia#Moral_constraints_and_the_state

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    Episode 40 - The One With Justin Brierley

    Episode 40 - The One With Justin Brierley

    Episode 40 – Show Notes

    It is a delight for us to have a long chat with our friend Justin Brierley, the founder and host of the Unbelievable Show (search “Unbelievable?” in your podcast App) where Christians and Atheists meet for respectful dialogue. The show is how the rest of us met each other.
    We discussed in particular chapter 3 of Justin’s Unbelievable? book, written in 2017:
    “Unbelievable?: Why after ten years of talking with atheists, I'm still a Christian”
    Eg: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Unbelievable-after-talking-atheists-Christian/dp/0281077983
    Chapter 3 is on human worth, the Moral Argument and morality.

    In the discussion we mentioned Tom Holland’s book “Dominion: The Making of the Western Mind”:
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dominion-Making-Western-Tom-Holland/dp/0349141207

    Why not pick up on Justin’s offer to join in with the recording of his next BIG CONVERSATION with NT Wright and Douglas Murray on Thurs 13th May 2021:
    https://www.thebigconversation.show/mythmiraclesandidentity

    And don’t forget this year’s Unbelievable? Conference on the afternoon of Sat 15th May:
    https://www.unbelievable.live/

    Finally … a shout out to the Unbelievable? Discussion Group on Facebook hosted by Justin (where Frances & Ed are among the Admins) , which we discussed briefly:
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/unbelievablejb
    Ask and you’ll get let in soon enough

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    Episode 39 - Are there forged writings in the New Testament ?

    Episode 39 - Are there forged writings in the New Testament ?

    Episode 39– Show Notes

    We discuss the issue of some New Testament letters that have strong evidence to suggest that the author was not who they claimed to be. This practice was not uncommon in that period. We dig a bit deeper on the letter 2 Peter in particular.

    We took the opportunity to quickly discuss another chapter from our “50 Arguments for Faith” book: chapter 47 on the NT canon.

    What does it say on this issue?

    Links:
    The academic Bart Ehrman book is “Forgery and Counter-forgery: The Use of Literary Deceit in Early Christian Polemics“, 2013.

    Available:
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Forgery-Counter-forgery-Literary-Christian-Polemics/dp/0199928037/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Forgery+and+counter+forgery&qid=1617536611&s=books&sr=1-1

    Doubts Aloud Links:

    The 50 Arguments for Faith book: “Evidence for God: 50 Arguments for Faith from the Bible, History, Philosophy and Science” by Mike Licona and William Dembski. (It can be found on Amazon.)

    Please leave us a review on iTunes and we will respond to any question asked there with the review.

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    Meet us all in person (after Covid19) at the monthly “Unbelievable Christian and Skeptic Discussion Group” in central London, see:

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    Episode 38 - Reflections on the Ravi Zacharias Scandal

    Episode 38 - Reflections on the Ravi Zacharias Scandal

    Episode 38– Show Notes

    We try to be sensitive as we discuss the recent scandal of Ravi Zacharias’ behaviour as a leading Christian apologist and communicator. This was not just a preaching getting into a sex scandal. There were many victims of abuse by his behaviour and his organisations forceful cover up.
    We seek to cover the aspects and implications of interest to atheists and where we have a more personal take on the story, such as Ed’s involvement with Ravi’s ministry in the UK (RZIM in Oxford).

    Links:

    The report

    https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/rzimmedia.rzim.org/assets/downloads/Report-of-Investigation.pdf

    The Unbelievable Show on the scandal and implications:

    https://www.premierchristianradio.com/Shows/Saturday/Unbelievable/Episodes/Unbelievable-

    The-Ravi-Zacharias-scandal-Dr-Diane-Langberg-Glen-Scrivener-and-Steve-Baughman-on-lessons-we-need-to-learn

    Premier Christianity coverage and reflection

    https://www.premierchristianity.com/Blog/5-helpful-reflections-on-the-Ravi-Zacharias-scandal

    The statement Ed was sent in 2017 by RZIM in Oxford

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n3cSBwEYqwYr9BQnJ-TEXYYP9Jjx96uU/view?usp=sharing

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    Episode 37 - Dumb and Dumber. Part 2 - Dumber

    Episode 37 - Dumb and Dumber. Part 2 - Dumber

    Episode 37– Show Notes

    We continue the discussion from the last episode which had launched from the chapter in our favourite Apologetics book - "How Darwinism Dumbs Us Down: Evolution and Postmodernism". This time we discuss the theists’ side of deriving confidence in our knowledge (quoting the book): “an absolute mind as the basis for trust in human cognition”, i.e. being in God’s hands when it comes to what we can know.
    So what does happen when theists face their own source for determining truths and knowledge, which boils down to a reliance on God not deceiving them. Are they Dumber?
    We discussed the philosophy of how we can know that an all powerful God isn’t deceiving us and then we couldn’t help ourselves and turned to the passages in the Bible (Old and New Testament) where God does actively deceive. (See 1 Kings 22, Ezekiel 20:25 onwards and 2 Thessalonians 2:11 for starters)
    Ed thought that it might still be OK to live under a good loving God who may well be deceiving so that he (Ed) would just think what he was supposed to think. The question of knowing whether God is indeed good then comes to the fore. We looked at that too and had great trouble seeing how we could get there without merely trusting God’s supposed message to us that He is good.
    Links:

    Andrew’s YouTube clips on prophecies of Trump’s election win:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gIAtDxyTaM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfDouDlHM88

    Frances’ article by Dallas G Denery II, associate professor of history and chair of the history department at Bowdoin College in Maine, where he discusses the history of the theologians’ struggle with the issue of divine deception.
    https://aeon.co/essays/how-the-scientific-revolution-made-an-honest-man-of-god

    Ed’s Christian site “Answering Islam” that claims to show that Allah is deceiving:

    https://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/allah_best_deceiver.htm

    Frances’ quote by Bertrand Russell on the absence of good:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absence_of_good

    The Unbelievable episode on ontological argument

    https://www.premierchristianradio.com/Shows/Saturday/Unbelievable/Episodes/Unbelievable-

    Debating-the-Ontological-Argument-Peter-S-Williams-Peter-Millican

    Doubts Aloud Links:
    The 50 Arguments for Faith book: “Evidence for God: 50 Arguments for Faith from the Bible, History, Philosophy and Science” by Mike Licona and William Dembski. (It can be found on Amazon.)

    Please leave us a review on iTunes and we will respond to any question asked there with the review.

    Or give feedback and ask questions using : doubtsaloud@gmail.com

    Join the Facebook Group discussions:

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/1023280847835278/

    Meet us all in person (after Covid19) at the monthly “Unbelievable Christian and Skeptic Discussion Group” in central London, see:

    https://www.meetup.com/Unbelievable-Christian-and-Skeptic-Discussion-Group-London

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    Episode 36 -Dumb and Dumber. Part 1 - Dumb

    Episode 36 -Dumb and Dumber. Part 1 - Dumb

    Episode 36– Show Notes

    We started with the next random chapter from our favourite Apologetics book "How Darwinism Dumbs Us Down: Evolution and Postmodernism". The idea is that knowledge arrived at for survival purposes is not likely to include metaphysical truth, so evolution undercuts any confidence in concluding naturalism or atheism. This quickly morphed to the more well-known presentation by Alvin Plantinga, which he called the Evolutionary Argument Against Naturalism (EAAN). We discussed it at some length, including how evolution has indeed not endowed us with perfect brains, rather ones subject to plenty of flaws. This is the outcome of observation not philosophical speculation. So we are all Dumb.

    We hinted at where this will be going in the next episode: what happens when theists face their own source for determining truths and knowledge, which is a reliance on God not deceiving them.

    Are they Dumber?

    We didn’t mention specific references to our material beyond Wikipedia, there is a lot of further reading available by doing a google search on the EAAN.

    Doubts Aloud Links:
    The 50 Arguments for Faith book: “Evidence for God: 50 Arguments for Faith from the Bible, History, Philosophy and Science” by Mike Licona and William Dembski. (It can be found on Amazon.)

    Please leave us a review on iTunes and we will respond to any question asked there with the review.

    Or give feedback and ask questions using : doubtsaloud@gmail.com

    Join the Facebook Group discussions:
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/1023280847835278/

    Meet us all in person (after Covid19) at the monthly “Unbelievable Christian and Skeptic Discussion Group” in central London, see:

    https://www.meetup.com/Unbelievable-Christian-and-Skeptic-Discussion-Group-London

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Very enjoyable

I sometimes feel like there's not much left to discuss in the atheist and Christian debate, and I've grown tired of going over the same ground time and time again.

So I wasn't expecting very much from another atheist podcast.

However, I gave this one a chance because I've heard Andrew Whyte on other podcasts, as well as his Christian Diversity YouTube channel, and always liked hearing what he has to say.

I’ve been pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoy the mature, thoughtful and educated discussion by the panelists on Doubts Aloud, and I’ve even learned some new things.

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