Dr. Ann Pellegrini/Dr. Avgi Saketopoulou : Gender without identity, and writing our own narratives

On this episode Ari, and Caroline meet Dr. Ann Pellegrini and Dr. Avgi Saketopoulou as they engaged in a comprehensive discussion on gender identity, expression, and the evolution of psychoanalysis, with a focus on the challenges of researching and publishing on these topics. The conversation also touches on the intersections of trauma, gender development, mythology, and the concept of self-narration, with an emphasis on the importance of respecting individual experiences of gender identity, challenging pathologization, and promoting education. Avgi's Bio (she/her) First name: The G is pronounced like an H. "Ave-hee" Last Name: "Sock-eh-to-poo-loo” Dr. Avgi Saketopoulou is a psychoanalyst in private practice in NYC and a member of the faculty at the NYU Postdoctoral Program in Psychotherapy and Psychoanalysis. Ann's Bio (They/Them) Dr. Ann Pellegrini is Professor of Performance Studies & Social and Cultural Analysis at New York University, and a psychoanalyst in private practice in New York City. Their previous books include Performance Anxieties: Staging Psychoanalysis, Staging Race (Routledge, 1997) and the 2014 Lambda Finalist in Best LGBT Non-Fiction “You Can Tell Just by Looking” and 20 Other Myths About LGBT Life and People, coauthored with Michael Bronski and Michael Amico (Beacon Press, 2013). ** “Make it real to me” written by Athena Promachus, covered by Boy Bowser The Trans Narrative was created, and produced by Caroline Penny, powered by Spotify for podcasters If you’d like to reach out, or be apart of the show contact us at “transnarrativepodcast@gmail.com” Support and donations can be made to cash app tag $gottabesomthinmore Find us Facebook, TikTok, and on Apple, Spotify, and iHeartRadio, or anywhere you listen to podcasts Thank you for your support Suicide Hotline 1-800-SUICIDE (784-2433) S.A.F.E. (Self Abuse Finally Ends) 1-800-DONT-CUT American Foundation for low vision 212-502-7633. Trevor Hotline (Suicide) 1-866-4-U-TREVOR Family Violence Prevention Center 1-800-313-1310 National Domestic Violence Hotline 1-800-799-SAFE Drug Abuse National Helpline 1-800-662-4357 National Human Service Call Center 2-1-1