USA vs Europe, Zeihan & Fukuyama, Reforming institutions vs starting new ones, and why we started "Moment of Zen"

"Moment of Zen"

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(0:00) intro and sponsor

(1:20) introductions (who the f are we?)

 (3:00) Antonio introduction

 (5:12) Dan introduction

(6:50) Farcaster

 (10:10) Erik introduction

 (12:30) the life of the mind vs the life of the founder

 (16:00) Being in the arena as a requisite to comment

 (18:30) Why is the podcast named “Moment of Zen”?

 (20:20) Erik is the Johnny Appleseed of group chats

 (23:30) Group chat culture

 (26:55) Reforming institutions vs building new ones

 (29:30) Antonio’s intellectual evolution

 (30:40) Europe is behind, but Antonio prefers it

 (31:40) Antonio feels like a teetotaler who runs a bar

 (32:50) LARPs

 (34:00) Explaining Fukuyama

 (37:50) What’s the best functioning institution today? 

(39:10) Richard Hanania

 (42:30) We don’t have a grand unifying projects anymore

 (45:00) Should the China threat be the unifying narrative?

 (48:05) Taiwan

 (49:56) Explaining Zeihan

 (1:00:20) When shit hits the fan, what country do you flee to?

 (1:02:40) Why doesn’t Prince Harry get a paternity test? 

(1:04:00) Europe vs America

 (1:08:20) Dan is bullish on Europeans, bearish on Europe

 (1:11:20) “Everyth

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