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Rob and Mark are Apple and tech enthusiasts who like nothing more than a good old muse, moan and laugh about the latest happenings from Apple. Tune in to hear them talk through the latest news, rumours and releases (it's a bit like having a couple of pints down the pub - this isn't Newsnight).

Eight or Sixteen Mark Ellis Reviews

    • Technology
    • 4.6 • 9 Ratings

Rob and Mark are Apple and tech enthusiasts who like nothing more than a good old muse, moan and laugh about the latest happenings from Apple. Tune in to hear them talk through the latest news, rumours and releases (it's a bit like having a couple of pints down the pub - this isn't Newsnight).

    "Cardboard cutouts of Craig Federighi"

    "Cardboard cutouts of Craig Federighi"

    In this episode, Rob and Mark discuss the M3 iMac video fallout, fitness tech and they also explore the new Apple Vision Pro and question, is it just another headset, or is it something way more... (should they wear these tech masks in more episodes?).
    Links
    ➡️ Mark’s Vision Pro livestream Q&A replay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjuqUSnMdC0➡️ Mark’s Vision Pro “one week later” video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp3JYZxS53o➡️ Mark Zuckerberg tries Vision Pro: https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/13/24072413/mark-zuckerberg-apple-vision-pro-review-quest-3
    ➡️ Juno, the unofficial YouTube client from Christian Selig, ex-developer of now-defunct Apollo app for Reddit: https://christianselig.com/2024/02/introducing-juno/➡️ Rob was using Immersed on the Quest 3 to see Mark on StreamYard: https://immersed.com
    ➡️ BoboVR M3 Pro Quest 3 strap:
    Amazon - convenient but pricey: https://www.amazon.co.uk/BOBOVR-M3-Pro-Accessories-Compatible/dp/B0CJLG9SBR/
    Direct - half the price, but shipped from China and often out of stock: https://www.bobovr.com/products/bobovr-m3-pro
    ➡️ Larq Self-Cleaning or Built-In Filter Water Bottle: https://www.livelarq.com
    ➡️ Borderlands Movie Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgj7xBc3n-0
    ➡️ Honor Magic V2 RSR Porsche Design edition: https://www.hihonor.com/uk/shop/honor-magic-v2-rsr-porsche-design/
    ➡️ Honor Magic6 Pro that Rob might get for £1: https://www.hihonor.com/uk/shop/new-launch/
    ➡️ OnePlus Open foldable: https://www.oneplus.com/uk/oneplus-open
    ➡️ GameSir X2 gamepad with USB connection on the left - ideal for use with foldable phones: https://www.gamesir.hk/collections/gamepads/products/gamesir-x2s
    ➡️ GameSir G8 Galileo gamepad for phones (much better controller than the X2 but the USB is on the right, so no good for foldables): https://www.gamesir.hk/collections/gamepads/products/gamesir-g8-galileo
    ➡️ Backbone One gamepad for phones: https://playbackbone.com/gb/
    ➡️ Return to Monkey Island game: https://returntomonkeyisland.com
    ➡️ GoCube Bluetooth Rubik’s Cube: https://particula-tech.com/?v=e4b09f3f8402
    ➡️ Rubik’s Clock: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubik's_Clock
    ➡️ Rubik’s Magic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubik's_Magic
    ➡️ Mark Fox Personal Trainer: https://www.fantasticalmrfox.com
     
    If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at contact@eightorsixteen.com.
    Eight or Sixteen is a Mark Ellis Media Limited production: https://markellisreviews.com 

    • 58 min
    "$200 shell suit for your Vision Pro”

    "$200 shell suit for your Vision Pro”

    In this episode, join Mark and Rob as they discuss everything from smartwatches and Google Assistant quirks to Apple's latest releases and the intriguing Vision Pro. Delve into their candid opinions on WatchOS, the Mint Green Pixel 8 Pro, and the Samsung Watch, along with insights on Fossil's exit from the smartwatch market. The conversation takes unexpected turns, providing a blend of humour and tech discoveries. Also stay tuned for Mark's upcoming Vision Pro unboxing on his main channel coming very soon!
     
    Links












    ➡️ Honor V2 Porsche special edition: https://geni.us/hcsnW➡️ Honor V2 preorder perks (technically possible to get it down from £1,799 to £1,099): https://geni.us/Gof4W
    ➡️ Tell them you’re trading in a phone by selecting the option before you add to cart (you don’t actually need to send it to them) - £200 off: https://geni.us/Gof4W
    ➡️ £300 coupon for registering before 1st March 2024: https://geni.us/rkCBg
    ➡️ Extra £100 off if you already own an Honor device: https://geni.us/wvu7r6
     
    ➡️ Free Bang & Olufsen Beocom Portal headset worth £549 via redemption between 16th February-12th April 2024:https://geni.us/vB6wnhttps://geni.us/evvqXB- 66W fast charger included
    - 6 months accidental damage insurance
    ➡️ Nothing transparent USB-C cable: https://geni.us/3sTmK12
    ➡️ Nothing SIM eject tool (only available in the box with a Nothing phone purchase or on eBay, not direct from Nothing): https://geni.us/gyaAA
    ➡️ Samsung Vegan Leather Case (not recommended!): https://geni.us/sk8AWH
    ➡️ Mint Green Pixel 8 Pro: https://geni.us/rFyL
     
    To check how much space is being taken up by macOS Sonoma screensavers:
    - Fire up Finder, hit CMD+Shift+G then paste in this location: /Library/Application Support/com.apple.idleassetsd/
    - Right-click, get info on “Customer” folder
     
    ➡️ Walkabout Mini Golf Jim Henson’s Labyrinth DLC: https://geni.us/ril0hEG
    If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at contact@eightorsixteen.com.
    Eight or Sixteen is a Mark Ellis Media Limited production: https://markellisreviews.com 

    • 1 hr 9 min
    "Did Ali fix your keyboard?"

    "Did Ali fix your keyboard?"

    In this episode Mark and Rob recap the big reveals from CES 2023. They discuss the Samsung Galaxy AI features in the new S24 series. Samsung is also promising 7 generations of Android updates, leading to speculation that this means 7 years of support. Other topics include Samsung's own smart ring to compete with the Lotus Ring that lets you control devices by pointing at them like a Jedi, the quirky rolling Ballie robot that Mark wonders if it actually does anything, and Mark's experiences attending CES - seeing the F1 safety car, staying in a massive Trump hotel suite, but somehow missing all the big product demos.
     
    Links➡️ Las Vegas Sphere: https://geni.us/wBgBj0u
    ➡️ Kohler $10,000 e-ink Toilet: https://geni.us/3drsb
    ➡️ MrMobile/Michael Fisher’s Clicks Keyboard Case for iPhone: https://geni.us/bzwLc5
    ➡️ Ali Abdaal’s Lightmode keyboard: https://geni.us/7KcULuX
    ➡️ Naya modular keyboard: https://geni.us/hnOFFP
    ➡️ Monokei Series 2 keyboard: https://geni.us/ABYRPDA
    ➡️ Nomad E keyboard: https://geni.us/he3TiT
    ➡️ Rabbit R1 AI assistant: https://geni.us/iaEnGhq
    ➡️ Humane aiPin: https://geni.us/NjChkPv
    ➡️ Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses: https://geni.us/YZynPT
    ➡️ Samsung Galaxy Unpacked 2024 Replay: https://geni.us/h0Slqs
    Use code S24GW to get a free Watch6 when preordering any S24 series device by 25th January 2024
    Preorder using the Samsung Store app (instead of the website) using coupon APP5 for an additional 5% off
    ➡️Circle to Search Google Gemini info: https://geni.us/HJTcS
    ➡️Jon Prosser’s “No-one cares about Vision Pro” video: https://geni.us/P8d8zDw
    ➡️ Lotus IR blaster ring: https://geni.us/lltZ9S
    If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at contact@eightorsixteen.com.
    Eight or Sixteen is a Mark Ellis Media Limited production: https://markellisreviews.com 

    • 53 min
    “Rickrolled by the BBC”

    “Rickrolled by the BBC”

    Mark and Rob get together to discuss Mark's CES plans, thoughts on Samsung's upcoming Galaxy Unpacked event, and whether intriguing new accessories like the Magic Mouse and Clicks keyboard case are worth a look.
    Rob shares his experience switching to a new Mac, the tools and research involved in deciding, and the realities of upgrading his streaming gear.
    They also discuss audience feedback highlights from previous videos, Mark and Rob's ideas for building out their ultimate home studios, and more of the top tech news and gadgets on their radars.
    Links
    ➡️Mark’s Phone of the Year 2023 - Honor 90 - £399 512gb/12gb: https://geni.us/uwIFp7N
    ➡️Register for Samsung Unpacked 2024 for : https://geni.us/6ONe
    ➡️Magic Mouse MagSafe adaptor case thing: https://geni.us/LnMzV
    ➡️Weird chewy cat thing (Amagami Ham Ham) from CES2022: https://geni.us/CKV5Ss
     
    Resources used in Rob’s M1/M1 Max/M2 Pro/M3/M3 Pro comparison:
     Set alerts for refurbished machines on the Apple Store: https://geni.us/wDNqE
    Useful CPU specs: https://geni.us/7G1o3P1
    Benchmark repository: https://geni.us/i4AqBZ
    Every Mac database: https://geni.us/AIuuDr
     
    ➡️Herman Miller Aeron chair: https://geni.us/rkIVj
    ➡️Third party Atlas headrest: https://geni.us/xvZobI
    ➡️Steelcase Gesture chair: https://geni.us/I4WfN4
    ➡️Govee RGBICWW Floor Lamp: https://geni.us/dWhmoB
    ➡️Clicks - an iPhone case with a hardware keyboard built in, from Mr Mobile: https://geni.us/kheM
    If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at contact@eightorsixteen.com.
    Eight or Sixteen is a Mark Ellis Media Limited production: https://markellisreviews.com 

    • 1 hr 7 min
    “The WAN Show with a K”

    “The WAN Show with a K”

    In this episode, Rob and Mark discuss Mark's AirPods Max experiment, what they both want to see from Apple in 2024, and they dig deep into Rob's amazing tech bag.
    Oh, and they reveal some VERY big news about Eight or Sixteen!Check out Eight or Sixteen on YouTube: https://youtu.be/-xccEXki4hs
    Links
    Bose QuietComfort headphones:
    https://www.bose.co.uk/en_gb/products/headphones/noise_cancelling_headphones/bose-quietcomfort-headphones.html#v=QC-HEADPHONEARN-BLK-WW

    Sonos Move speaker:
    https://www.sonos.com/en-gb/shop/move

    B&O H95 headphones:
    https://www.bang-olufsen.com/en/gb/headphones/beoplay-h95

    Moft Snap Float iPad mini Origami Case:
    https://www.moft.us/products/origami-ipad-folio?variant=40025721471063

    Dell Mini 9:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell_Inspiron_Mini_Series

    Typing of the Dead:
    https://store.steampowered.com/app/246580/The_Typing_of_The_Dead_Overkill/

    Grams28 154 Citypack MANBAG:
    https://www.grams28.com/products/154-city-pack

    EE Special Apple TV 4K
    https://ee.co.uk/tv/apple-tv-4k

    Cafele 100W retractable cable:
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/CAFELE-Cable-100W-Super-Charging/dp/B0BK83GW8R

    UGREEN 65W Charger:
    https://uk.ugreen.com/products/ugreen-nexode-65w-usb-c-gan-charger-3-ports-wall-charger

    UGREEN 25,000mAh Power Bank:
    https://uk.ugreen.com/products/ugreen-145w-25000mah-power-bank-for-laptop-3-ports-power-bank

    Elago AirPods Pro Casette Case:
    https://www.elago.com/collections/airpods-pro-2-case-elago/products/cassette-tape-case-for-airpods-pro-2-2-colors

    Hidrate Spark RGB Water Bottle:
    https://hidratespark.com

    Play Date:
    https://play.date

    Backbone One controller:
    https://playbackbone.com

    Magic Mouse Ergonomic Charging Case:
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0C7442GM7

    Acasis DIY external SSD enclosure:
    https://www.acasis.com/collections/all-products/products/acasis-usb4-0-mobile-m-2-nvme-enclosure-40gbps-compatible-with-typec-thunderbolt-3-interface-solid-state-nvme-ssd-universal-tools?variant=43694516601061

    Zizzle Zoundz:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYYtFRPy9iA

    Toniebox Audio Player for kids:
    https://us.tonies.com/pages/toniebox

    Yoto Audiobook Player for kids:
    http://yotoplay.com

    If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at contact@eightorsixteen.com.
    Eight or Sixteen is a Mark Ellis Media Limited production: https://markellisreviews.com 

    • 1 hr 4 min
    “Things that look like other things”

    “Things that look like other things”

    In this episode, Rob and Mark talk skateboards, Porsches, Jeff Bezos' face, and an unfortunate turn of events for Nothing.
    Links
    Correction from Rob: Louise did in fact know the open source alternative to Thunderbolt (Oculink) and had posted it in the chat, I just didn’t see it!
    Ali Abdaal Lightmode Keyboard:
    https://www.lightmode.com/products/coral-orange

    Sigma 16mm F1.4 lens:
    https://www.sigma-global.com/en/lenses/c017_16_14/

    Justin Hawkins Rides Again:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4LC0qZiNew

    Nothing/Sunbird security catastrophe:
    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/11/nothings-imessage-app-was-a-security-catastrophe-taken-down-in-24-hours/

    JerryRigEverything / Casetify debacle:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byfWscC87Vg

    Sensei macOS monitoring app (alternative to iStatMenus):
    https://cindori.com/sensei

    Ayaneo AM01 mini PC that looks like a retro Mac:
    https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ayaneo-retro-mini-pc-creator-of-mini-pc-2-0-era#/

    Ayaneo Slide:
    https://ayaneo.com/product/AYANEO-SLIDE.html

    GPD Win4 handheld PC that looks like a PS Vita:
    https://www.gpd.hk/gpdwin4

    GPD GPU Oculink dock:
    https://www.gpd.hk/gpdg1graphics

    8bitdo retro bluetooth controllers:
    https://www.8bitdo.com/apple/

    NuPhy keyboards:
    https://nuphy.com

    Aqara FP2 Presence Sensor:
    https://www.aqara.com/eu/product/presence-sensor-fp2/

    SwitchBot Hub 2:
    https://uk.switch-bot.com/products/switchbot-hub-2

    Rob’s new shelf:
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0BN1FG971

    Rob’s 90-degree XLR adaptors to fix the front-facing jacks on the Moto M2:
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0BZ5SP6JV

    Rob’s new KVM switch that can do 5K2K:
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0C5WPR68H

    Rob’s new comedically large QB12 Subwoofer in Gloss White:
    https://www.qacoustics.co.uk/q-acoustics-qb12.html

    Free Satellite SOS extended for iPhone 14 users (who registered their device prior to Nov 15) for another two, or two years from date of activation for new purchasers
    https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2023/11/apple-extends-emergency-sos-via-satellite-for-an-additional-free-year/

    Banking Data in Apple Wallet now live for UK users:
    https://www.apple.com/uk/newsroom/2023/11/new-apple-pay-feature-helps-users-access-account-information-more-conveniently/

    Spatialify beta for encoding iPhone Spatial Video for Quest 3:
    https://testflight.apple.com/join/EEFFsOzJ

    Bobby Fingers’ Jeff Bezos Rowing Boat
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGhcSupkNs8

    If you'd like to get in touch with Rob and Mark, you can email them at contact@eightorsixteen.com.
    Eight or Sixteen is a Mark Ellis Media Limited production: https://markellisreviews.com 

    • 1 hr

Customer Reviews

4.6 out of 5
9 Ratings

9 Ratings

RochamBOO ,

This podcast is great company for long drives!

I always enjoy listening to Rob and Mark’s conversations. Optimistic and yet always rooted in reality. And this week’s pre-shopping holiday advice was so useful! A lovely podcast I look forward to listening to every other weekend.

fred_benz ,

Bore me to death…

As they say about many Apple products, “I’m not that keen on it.” You’ll get better information faster reading Medium, iDrop, or any other Apple-centric articles. This show moves at the speed of slow and debunks the myth that English accents are attractive.

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