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The Elevate.Together.Podcast. Voices of Change in the Business of Law.

Each 20-minute episode is an interview-style podcast with thought leaders from law departments, law firms, and law companies.

Our podcast features episodes from our Expert Series; putting a spotlight on industry leaders executing bold positions. These Experts offer unfiltered viewpoints, practical insights, and suggest changes to implement now.

Building on the success of our Impact video program, the Elevate.Together.Podcast. offers an Impact Series featuring Elevate customers implementing change. These customers discuss why, how, what happened, and what's next.

The Next Normal Series features Elevate’s Chairman and CEO Liam Brown talking to forward-thinking General Counsel, law firm Managing Partners, and law company leaders – about leadership and the Next Normal.

We round out our program with the Elevate Debate. Featuring industry leaders and Elevate Experts supporting and defending an approach, a viewpoint, a practice.

To hear what’s happening and what’s next – tune into the Elevate.Together.Podcast. Voices of Change in the Business of Law.

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The Elevate.Together.Podcast. Voices of Change in the Business of Law.

Each 20-minute episode is an interview-style podcast with thought leaders from law departments, law firms, and law companies.

Our podcast features episodes from our Expert Series; putting a spotlight on industry leaders executing bold positions. These Experts offer unfiltered viewpoints, practical insights, and suggest changes to implement now.

Building on the success of our Impact video program, the Elevate.Together.Podcast. offers an Impact Series featuring Elevate customers implementing change. These customers discuss why, how, what happened, and what's next.

The Next Normal Series features Elevate’s Chairman and CEO Liam Brown talking to forward-thinking General Counsel, law firm Managing Partners, and law company leaders – about leadership and the Next Normal.

We round out our program with the Elevate Debate. Featuring industry leaders and Elevate Experts supporting and defending an approach, a viewpoint, a practice.

To hear what’s happening and what’s next – tune into the Elevate.Together.Podcast. Voices of Change in the Business of Law.

    Jeff Fehrman – Why Pricing Discovery is Not Much Different than the Billable Hour

    Jeff Fehrman – Why Pricing Discovery is Not Much Different than the Billable Hour

    A Race to the Bottom
    Welcome to an Expert series podcast featuring our former colleague and head of our eDiscovery and document review business, John Reikes. John is now the CEO of High Impact, a studio which specializes in litigation-related graphics. On this podcast, John talks with eDiscovery leader Jeff Fehrman, Vice President at Reveal Brainspace. Jeff and John discuss eDiscovery pricing, flipping the funnel on document review and partnership.


    [00:53] John sets the stage for our conversation, noting a misalignment between how we pay for discovery services and how people value what they've received.


    [02:37] If we measure value in risk and people time, why price it by the gigabyte?


    [04:31] The number of hours an attorney spends on a matter does not align with the value they've brought to it.


    [06:29] Hosting gigabytes are not relevant to either party, so why are we using them?


    [08:13] Any additional ancillary value, whether artificial intelligence or applying translation, should be wrapped into one common price.


    [11:37] Charge per doc, that's plain and simple.


    [16:08] Can we expect success moving to a similar model on the data side of eDiscovery?


    [19:10] To charge or not to charge for hosting – it comes down to value.


    [23:20] AI drives automation and efficiency and can flip the pyramid – you get the documents you need and set aside the others.


    [27:02] Advice to buyers and sellers? Commit to a partnership.

    • 30 min
    Julian Cagadas - Nuclear Deterrence

    Julian Cagadas - Nuclear Deterrence

    Hours and Hours of Boredom Filled With Sheer Seconds of Terror
    Welcome to a special edition of the Elevate.Together.Podcast. Inside the Engine Room, where we highlight the stories and people who help bring you Elevate's award-winning products and services. Our host for this series is Dr. Daniel Katz, Vice President of Data Science and Innovation at Elevate. His guest today is our Elevate colleague, Julian Cagadas.


    [00:50] Let's meet Julian…


    [02:12] Someone has to answer the red phone but rest assured it takes more than one person to 'push the button'.


    [04:45] A job at Accenture and law degree start to shape a different future for Julian.


    [08:51] Law with a focus on innovation, technology, and business


    [10:30] By aligning budgets, people, and technology, we apply process to the field of law.


    [11:49] Using AI and NLP, Natural Language Processing, to extract clauses and relevant data fields from legal documents


    [13:05] It's an exciting time to be in this area of the business of law.


    ENJOY!

    • 15 min
    James Hartley - Delivering Differently

    James Hartley - Delivering Differently

    A Legal Team Took on the Might of the Post Office
    This Impact series podcast episode features Elevate's Vice President of Get Shit Done, Stephen Allen, talking with James Hartley, the National Head of Litigation and Disputes Advisory at Freeths. Stephen and James review HUGE complex litigation that resulted in success for the Freeths team - on behalf of a significant group of claimants. Elevate gets a mention for the AI, data analysis, and document management assistance we provided to accelerate the review of the vast amount of case evidence.
    [00:00] Let's jump in. Stephen introduces James and the case at the centre of this podcast.
    [01:30] Landing the case. Perhaps 'the case' of the century.


    [03:04] A significant investment of time - and the benefit of technology.


    [05:02] AI in the context of data analysis and document management, which was essential.


    [08:34] Freeths began to re-think how it does litigation.


    [12:00] Creating a more sophisticated approach to analyze litigation risk.


    [15:34] Clients don't want to pay for the process. They pay for expertise.


    Enjoy!

    • 19 min
    The Evolution of Contracting from IA to AI

    The Evolution of Contracting from IA to AI

    Technology, Process, Content and People
    Stephen Allen, Vice President of Get Shit Done at Elevate, had the pleasure of hosting a talk with Dr. Roger Strathausen and Elevate’s Rob Couch. Dr. Roger Strathausen is a business consultant and acting Vice-Chair of the Supervisory Board of the Liquid Legal Institute, a non-profit association committed to promoting digitalisation in the legal industry. Rob Couch is a managing director of Consulting, focused on the contracting and CLM practice at Elevate. Roger and Rob have put together a white paper Elevate is publishing around contract life cycle management trends, why contract, how to contract, and who owns the contract - a wide-ranging series of thought leadership.


    [01:15] The tenet of our white paper surrounds three points: the evolution of contracting today, technology matters, and AI is the future.


    [04:40] There is an evolution of technology occurring within the contracting space. AI is completely changing the rules related to contracting.


    [07:30] Contracting started as a handshake and then transitioned to the lawyers for good reasons - contracting and transactions became more complicated.


    [09:44] Technology, templates, and a library of allowed deviations.


    [11:01] Today CLM tools have AI is part of the original design, built into the technology use case.


    [15:16] Balancing the technical possibility of what can be done with a compelling use case.


    [18:04] Smart Contracts have evolved because of AI.


    [19:19] What should businesspeople who contract, and lawyers who support them, be doing now?


    Enjoy!

    • 22 min
    Tracey Yurko – Get To Your Highest and Best Use

    Tracey Yurko – Get To Your Highest and Best Use

    Constantly Loop and Improve
    Tracey Yurko is the Chief Legal Officer for Bridgewater Associates. Bridgewater is a global macro hedge front located in Westport, Connecticut, with 150 billion dollars of assets under management.
    [01:14] Tracey's role, leading the hedge fund legal department.
    [04:18] Her role has evolved over the last year.
    [06:57] ‘There's a whole bunch of work that needs to get done, we can't ignore it for loftier explorations.’
    [07:35] Place value on innovation. Constantly loop and improve.
    [10:00] Successful personas that have a curiosity mindset, connect with the business and operate digitally.
    [12:00] We can configure everything like a machine. If you have a good machine, you'll have consistent outcomes.
    [13:52] Lawyers getting to their highest and best use through technology.
    [16:24] Do you want a bunch of different hammers or a toolbox with different tools?
    [18:30] When it comes to diversity, demand more from your law firms.
    [20:06] Don't be afraid to ask for mentorship and to seek mentors out.
    [22:24] Leadership in tough times requires …

    • 23 min
    Reena SenGupta - Incremental Improvement

    Reena SenGupta - Incremental Improvement

    Innovation is a sum of steps and tweaks.
    Part of our Next Normal leadership series, this episode features Elevate's Chairman and CEO, Liam Brown, talking with Reena SenGupta, CEO and creator of FT Innovative Lawyers. Reena and Liam talk about leadership, innovation, and becoming digital. Reena leads RSG consulting, the FT Innovative Lawyers Programme, and is a special membership advisor to the Digital Legal Exchange.
    [01:24] In 2004, innovation and lawyers did not ever go together.


    [03:46] Moving a market.


    [05:24] It's okay to try new things, to talk about new things.


    [07:23] An invention, innovation, and improvement are they different?


    [10:46] A knowledge business is democratic and requires phenomenal leadership.


    [12:50] CEOs are asking their business functions, including legal, to operate digitally and innovate at the speed of the rest of the business.


    [15:46] Only two out of 10 legal departments are digitally enabled enough to support their companies.


    [17:08] Until that data can flow back and forth between other functions and other digital workflows, these pools of data lose their value.


    [21:53] It's important to know when something isn't working anymore – and when to get out.

    • 23 min

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