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EMPIRE LINES EMPIRE LINES
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EMPIRE LINES uncovers the unexpected, often two-way, flows of empires through art.
Interdisciplinary thinkers use individual artworks as artefacts of imperial exchange, revealing the how and why of the monolith ‘empire’.
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MUSIC: Combinación // The Dubbstyle
PRODUCER: Jelena Sofronijevic
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Living in the Wake of the Lust for Sugar, Elsa James (2023) (EMPIRE LINES x Museum of London Docklands)
Contemporary artist Elsa James moves through the Museum of London Docklands’ London, Sugar & Slavery gallery - and so, the missing histories of the 17th and 18th centuries - in her 2023 film, Living in the Wake of the Lust for Sugar.
In 2023, the Museum of London Docklands invited artist and activist Elsa James to make a disruptive intervention in their London, Sugar & Slavery gallery. Finding the enslaved African voice missing - from both this particular space, and museums more widely - Elsa shot a seven-minute film in shades of black and red, embedding in the space her personal, contemporary experience from the British African-Caribbean diaspora, as connected with the long history of the transatlantic slave trade.
With movement, dance, and audio, Elsa reimagines the gallery as the galley of slave ship. Talking about the toppling of statues from Edward Colston to Robert Milligan, she details who controls historical narratives and memory, and why we should reconsider the history of transatlantic slavery as the history of the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries. Elsa illuminates her neon ‘Ode to David Lammy MP’ (2022), influences from Stuart Hall to Windrush thinkers, and the parallel othering of her home base, Essex, made apparent by her research into historical Black women like Princess Dinubolu, Hester Woodley, and Mary Prince. Drawing on her work with the International Slavery Museum, we discuss the importance of local and global collaborations in platforming a plurality of voices, problems with the commercial art market, plus her interdisciplinary practice, from neon signs to performance art.
Living in the Wake of the Lust For Sugar is publicly available online, via the Museum of London Docklands website and social media.
For more about Carrie Mae Weems, listen to Barbican curator Florence Ostende on From Here I Saw What Happened and I Cried (1995–1996), on EMPIRE LINES: https://pod.link/1533637675/episode/b4e1a077367a0636c47dee51bcbbd3da
Part of EMPIRE LINES at 90, exploring the legacies of the transatlantic slave trade through contemporary art.
WITH: Elsa James, British African-Caribbean conceptual artist and activist. Born in London, she has lived in Essex since 1999; working across media, much of her current practice considers what it means to be Black in Essex today.
ART: ‘Living in the Wake of the Lust for Sugar, Elsa James (2023)’.
SOUNDS: Elsa James.
PRODUCER: Jelena Sofronijevic.
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Black Atlantic: Power, People, Resistance (2023) (EMPIRE LINES x Fitzwilliam Museum)
Curators Jake Subryan Richards and Vicky Avery locate Cambridge within the transatlantic slave trade, connecting global commodities and local consumption, historic and contemporary art, to reveal how five hundred years of colonial resistance constructed new cultures, known as the Black Atlantic.
Between 1400 and 1900, European empires colonised much of the Americas, transporting over 12.5 million people to these colonies from Africa as slaves. It’s a history often recounted as something singular, concluded in the past - detached as happening ‘then, and over there’ - else told from the perspective of imperial powers. But in their resistance of colonial slavery, people also produced new cultures that continue to shape our present. Black Atlantic, a new exhibition at Cambridge’s Fitzwilliam Museum, reconnects the institution’s collection, university, and city more widely with these global histories. Installed within the Founder’s Galleries, part-funded by the profits from the transatlantic slave trade, it builds on the ‘grandeur and smugness’ of the Fitzwilliam’s architecture - an intervention which asks whether it is possible to decolonise museums, as imperial infrastructures.
Co-curators Jake Subryan Richards and Vicky Avery consider contrasts and continuities between historic and modern works, with contemporary Black artists like Barbara Walker and Keith Piper, Alberta Whittle and Donald Locke commenting on visibility, racism, and colourism, and how visual representations of Black people have shifted over time. Vicky smashes stereotypes about abolitionism, ceramics, and popular culture, from the UK’s largest pro-slavery punch bowl, to Jacqueline Bishop’s new Wedgwood dinner set. Plus, with a botanical painting from a Caribbean plantation - one of the first signed works by a Black artist of a Black subject - we travel between environments in West Africa, North and South America, and Europe, finding examples of exploitation, agency, and self-liberation - and pathways to future ‘repair’.
Black Atlantic: Power, People, Resistance runs at the Fitzwilliam Museum in Cambridge until 7 January 2024, the first in a series of exhibitions and gallery interventions planned until 2026.
For more on the South Sea Bubble, listen to Dr. Helen Paul on The Luxborough Gallery on Fire (c. 18th Century): https://pod.link/1533637675/episode/c02b6b82097b9ce34d193c771f772152
Part of EMPIRE LINES at 90, exploring the legacies of the transatlantic slave trade through contemporary art.
WITH: Dr. Jake Subryan Richards, Assistant Professor of International History at the London School of Economics and Political Science. Dr. Victoria Avery, Keeper of European Sculpture and Decorative Arts at the Fitzwilliam Museum. They are co-curators of Black Atlantic: Power, People, Resistance.
ART: ‘The Coloureds’ Codex, Keith Piper (2023); Vanishing Point 25 (Costanzi), Barbara Walker (2021); Breadfruit Tree, John Tyley (1793-1800); History of the Dinner Table, Jacqueline Bishop (2021)’.
IMAGE: Installation View.
SOUNDS: Jacqueline Bishop: History at the Dinner Table. Produced by Storya.co. With special thanks to the Paul Mellon Centre for Studies in British Art.
PRODUCER: Jelena Sofronijevic.
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UNRWA Dress from Ramallah, Palestine (1930s) (EMPIRE LINES x Kettle’s Yard)
Curator Rachel Dedman unpicks the personal and political histories woven into Palestinian textiles, the role of the ‘embroidered woman’ in resistance movements, and how the British Mandate changed clothes after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire in the 20th century.
With a century of dresses, jackets and coats - ‘hundred-year-old sisters’ - from Lebanon, Jordan, and the West Bank, a new exhibition in Cambridge shows embroidery as both a historic and living tradition, and why clothing could be some of the most significant cultural sources from Palestine today. A split-front jellayeh, stitched up after World War I, reveals how British occupation of the former Ottoman territories affected social codes. Studio photographs of urban, middle-class Jerusalemites wearing European imports - and ‘traditional’ clothes like costumes - speak to class and regional inequalities, as much as diversity.
Reading textiles like history books, curator Rachel Dedman reveals how women’s bodies have long been sites of national identity, through the Nakba (catastrophe) in 1948, Naksa (setback) in 1967, to the first Intifada against Israel. We look at a dress patched up with a United Nations Relief and Works Agency-issued bag of flour, to find histories of resistance, transnational solidarity, and economic empowerment. Plus, Rachel explains ‘auto-orientalism’, and refashions the keffiyeh, revealing the role of men in this women’s work, and deconstructing binaries between genders, arts and crafts.
Material Power: Palestinian Embroidery runs at Kettle’s Yard in Cambridge until 29 October 2023, then the Whitworth in Manchester into 2024.
For more, you can read my article in gowithYamo: https://www.gowithyamo.com/blog/textiles-in-cambridge-palestinian-embroidery-at-kettles-yard
WITH: Rachel Dedman, curator, writer, and art historian, and Jameel Curator of Contemporary Art from the Middle East at Victoria and Albert Museum. Rachel is the curator of Material Power, and previously curated Labour of Love: New Approaches to Palestinian Embroidery at the Palestinian Museum, West Bank, 2018.
ART: ‘UNRWA Dress from Ramallah, Palestine (1930s)’.
PRODUCER: Jelena Sofronijevic.
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Home is Not a Place, Johny Pitts and Roger Robinson (2021-Now) (EMPIRE LINES x The Photographers’ Gallery)
Writer and photographer Johny Pitts captures everyday experiences from Black communities around the British coast, bringing together the sights, sounds, and sofas shared from Liverpool to London, in his touring installation, Home is Not a Place.
In 2021, Johny Pitts and the poet Roger Robinson set off on a journey clockwise around the British coast, to answer the question: 'What is Black Britain?' Their collaboration, Home is Not is Place, captures contemporary, everyday experiences of Blackness between Edinburgh and Belfast, Liverpool and Tilbury, where the Empire Windrush docked in 1948.
Setting out from London, the multidisciplinary artist challenges the ‘Brixtonisation’ of Black experiences, and binary media representations of Black excellence, or criminality. Johny shares stories of migration, how Brexit and COVID changed his perceptions of local environments, and archive albums from his own childhood in multicultural, working-class Sheffield. Flicking through shots of Yorkshire puddings and Mount Fuji, we find his travels-past in 1980s bubble-era Japan. And in his Living Room, we sit down to discuss Afropean, inspirations like James Baldwin, Paul Gilroy, and Caryl Phillips, plus his sister Chantal’s pirate radio playlists, and the role of family and community in his practice.
Johny Pitts: Home is Not a Place runs at The Photographers’ Gallery in London until 24 September 2023. Join the Gallery this Thursday (7 September), and next, for special exhibition tours and artist talks.
For more, you can read my article in gowithYamo.
For more about Autograph, hear artist Ingrid Pollard’s EMPIRE LINES on Carbon Slowly Turning (2022): https://pod.link/1533637675/episode/e00996c8caff991ad6da78b4d73da7e4
WITH: Johny Pitts, photographer, writer, and broadcaster from Sheffield, England. He is the curator of the European Network Against Racism (ENAR) award-winning Afropean.com, and the author of Afropean: Notes from Black Europe (2021).
ART: ‘Home is Not a Place, Johny Pitts and Roger Robinson (2021-Now)’.
PRODUCER: Jelena Sofronijevic.
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What Remains at the End of the Earth?, Imani Jacqueline Brown (2022) (EMPIRE LINES x Hayward Gallery)
Multimedia artist and activist Imani Jacqueline Brown maps out the long history of extractivism in southern America, constellating 18th century settler colonialism, oil and gas extraction, and contemporary environmental crises.
South of the Mississippi River sits the US state of Louisiana, a place transformed from ‘Plantation County’ in the 1700s, to an ‘apartheid state’, and today, ‘Cancer Alley’, for its polluted land and water. Colonial legacies have contributed to contemporary environment problems - including Hurricane Katrina - and continue to shape community planning and housing, a phenomenon known as ‘extractivism’.
Artist Imani Jacqueline Brown pushes back against the ‘segregation’ of human/nature, and Black humans from humanity, in her multidisciplinary practice. The artist shares how culture is too ‘entangled’ with public political action, and her ‘grassroots research’ in permit applications awarded to fossil fuel businesses like Texaco (now Chevron) and the Colonial Pipeline Company. The artist describes how she has collaborated to map enslaved peoples’ burial grounds, as marked by magnolia trees, highlighting pan-African traditions of ecological regeneration. Drawing on her work with Follow the Oil and Occupy Museums, Brown suggests that culture and capitalism are often closely linked - and the unique power of repackaging these projects in the form of artistic constellations.
What Remains at the End of the Earth? (2022) is on view at Dear Earth: Art and Hope in a Time of Crisis, which runs at the Hayward Gallery in London until 3 September 2023, part of the Southbank Centre’s Planet Summer with Gaia Art Foundation.
WITH: Imani Jacqueline Brown, artist, activist, writer, and researcher from New Orleans, now based in London. She is a research fellow at Forensic Architecture.
ART: ‘What Remains at the End of the Earth?, Imani Jacqueline Brown (2022)’.
IMAGE: Installation View.
PRODUCER: Jelena Sofronijevic.
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Lagos Soundscapes, Emeka Ogboh (2023) (EMPIRE LINES x South London Gallery, Southbank Centre)
Curator Folakunle Oshun links Peckham in the UK, and Lagos in Nigeria, with water and two centuries of shared colonial histories. Artist David Sanya captures European statues and lingering stereotypes in West Africa. Plus, Emeka Ogboh projects the sounds of the megacity onto the streets of south east London, and recreates the taste of migration with a brand new beer.
Often called ‘Little Lagos’, Peckham in south east London is home to one of the largest Nigerian diaspora communities. When the West African country declared independence after a century of British colonial rule in 1960, the flow of migration soon increased, with economic crises and civil unrest in the country. But individuals and families have long moved between both places. As a port city, Lagos became key to the transatlantic slave trade; its name meaning ‘lake’, after the Portuguese, the first Europeans in the area.
Using water as a channel to connect Lagos and London, a new exhibition at the South London Gallery brings together both Nigerian and British-Nigerian artists like Yinka Shonibare, crossing generations and diasporas. Its curator Folakunle Oshun, founder and director of the Lagos Biennal, describes growing up with CNN, navigating imperial architectures in Berlin and Paris, and why he’d never drive in London. Artist Emeka Ogboh takes us beyond the museum space, using loudspeakers to project the sound of Lagos’ Danfo bus drivers onto the streets of Peckham. We sip his ‘bittersweet’ beer made in collaboration with local brewery Orbit, a blend of English hops and Nigerian alligator pepper, and discuss how food and art can together capture the ‘multisensorial’ experience of migration.
Plus, closer to the River Thames, Birmingham-based artist David Sanya traces his travels from Nigeria to the UK, and how he combines the European artistic tradition of the sublime with Lagos’ distinctive lake and seascapes, creating contemporary photographs of his own environments.
Lagos, Peckham, Repeat: Pilgrimage to the Lakes runs at South London Gallery until 29 October 2023.
Reframe: The Residency Exhibition runs at the Southbank Centre until 27 August 2023, part of the Southbank Centre’s Planet Summer.
For more, you can read my article.
For more on A History of City in a Box, hear artist Ndidi Dike on EMPIRE LINES: https://pod.link/1533637675/episode/386dbf4fcb2704a632270e0471be8410
WITH: Folakunle Oshun, artist, curator, and founder and director of the Lagos Biennal. He is the co-curator of Lagos, Peckham, Repeat. Emeka Ogboh, sound and installation artist best known for his soundscapes of life in Lagos. Born in Nigeria and based between Lagos and Berlin, he creates multisensory work that takes the form of audio, installation, sculpture, and food and drink. David Sanya, artist and photographer. Born and raised in Lagos, he migrated to the UK in 2016, and practices between Birmingham and London. His collaborative work, I AM YOUR MOTHER DISMANTLED, is on view as part of Reframe: The Residency.
ART: ‘Lagos Soundscapes, Emeka Ogboh (2023)’.
PRODUCER: Jelena Sofronijevic.
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Customer Reviews
Very engaging
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Excellent resource
As an art history professor, this is a high-quality resource for engaging with the broader histories that surround the objects of art history. 10/10 recommend to all my students and colleagues!
Excellent podcast
Consistently fascinating. Empire is both a complicated and far-reaching concept, and approaching it through art and material culture is one of the better ways to understand it. I also appreciate the shorter length: it’s just enough to draw you in and leave you curious, but not so much that you’re overwhelmed if you’re unfamiliar with the subject matter.