Ep. 011: A Conversation With Jonathan Ogden

In this episode, Jonathan Ogden takes us inside his creative world—where authenticity, balance, and inspiration shape his music. We chat about drawing from nature, literature, and life itself to keep songwriting fresh. He shares insights on the shift toward genuine content on social media, the joy of real connections with fans, and the challenges of being an independent artist. If you're a songwriter looking for wisdom and fresh perspective, this one's for you.

TIMESTAMPS
[00:00] Introduction & Childhood Dreams
Jonathan shares his unexpected childhood dream of having an office job and the essence of songwriting.
[00:47] Creative Process & Meeting in Person
The balance between personal expression and audience connection in songwriting, plus the excitement of finally meeting after texting.
[01:39] Voice Messages vs. Texting & Project Songbird's Mission
A lighthearted chat on voice messages vs. texting, followed by an introduction to the podcast’s goal of supporting independent artists.
[03:32] Jonathan’s Musical Journey & Early Influences
From his musical family background to discovering his path in music.
[05:26] Transition to Music Production & SoundCloud Beginnings
How he shifted from graphic design to music, and the early days of sharing music on SoundCloud.
[07:30] The Origin of "Dancing Robots" & Independent Artist Journey
Jonathan explains his unique band name and the decision to remain independent in the industry.
[09:39] Songwriting Process & Collaboration vs. Solo Writing
Insights into how his songwriting has evolved and the contrast between writing alone and with others.
[12:56] Music Production & Co-Writing Experiences
His production approach, the importance of collaboration, and the mixed feelings about co-writing.
[16:09] Listener Consideration & Final Thoughts on Songwriting
Balancing personal expression with audience connection, and the privilege of impacting listeners.
[19:02] Authenticity in Music & Independent Artist Life
The importance of genuine artistry and the advantages of being independent.
[21:52] Challenges & Team Dynamics
Managing everything as an independent artist and the necessity of having a supportive team.
[23:23] The UK’s Influence on Jonathan’s Artistry & Genre Struggles
How living in the UK shapes his music and feeling out of place in the UK scene.
[26:06] Community & Breaking Genre Boundaries
Finding like-minded artists and embracing music beyond strict genre definitions.
[27:47] Creative Process, Variety & Embracing Change
Blending styles while keeping a cohesive sound and navigating artistic evolution.
[32:47] Songwriting Accomplishments & Overcoming Self-Doubt
Jonathan reflects on key milestones and the challenges of self-doubt.
[37:45] Practical Creativity Strategies & Songwriting Inspiration
Tackling creative blocks and finding inspiration in nature, music, and poetry.
[39:34] Authenticity in Content & The Shift to Casual Creation
[43:30] Engaging with Fans & Current Projects
[46:46] Advice for Songwriters & Closing Thoughts


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