Episode 15: Poet Barbara Kingsolver, Director of Horticulture Katie Bliss and Naturalist Nancy Lawson

This episode features an interview with best-selling author Barbara Kingsolver (0:04:34) from 2022. It was recorded for The WildStory’s predecessor, an Instagram series called Saturday Morning Poetry, hosted by the Hudson County Chapter of NPSNJ. Barbara Kingsolver is of course most widely known for her brilliant novels, but she is also a poet with two published collections. In this interview, recorded a week before the release of the internationally acclaimed novel Demon Copperhead, we talked about Barbara’s 2020 poetry collection How to Fly (in Ten Thousand Easy Lessons), leaning into poetry’s capacity for delight and whimsy with a conversation about trees as good people, followed by a more sobering discussion about climate change and the need to cherish and protect the natural places on this earth. We reprise this interview here on The WildStory with special permission from Barbara Kingsolver.

In Ask Randi, Dr. Randi Eckel (0:25:35), the native plant expert for NPSNJ and owner of Toadshade Wildflower Farm, talks about the impact ecologically damaging plants have on the environment, with a focus on the Butterfly Bush. Although eye-catching, hardy, and seemingly helpful to butterflies and other pollinators, Butterfly Bush is actually an invasive species that can impair the health of our local ecosystems.

We then hear from Katie Bliss (0:39:28), the Director of Horticulture for the Cape May Point Science Center, formerly known as St. Mary by the Sea retreat house. The Center is located in the middle of the Atlantic flyway and is the location for this year's NPSNJ retreat for membership in late September. Katie talks with Kim about the center's rich history and the pollinator garden she created with her husband, which is a recipient of a 2024 NPSNJ mini-grant. 

In our final segment, Kim and Ann chat with naturalist Nancy Lawson (0:58:27), author of The Humane Gardener, about her newest book, WildScape (Princeton Architectural Press 2023), which takes readers on an insightful and fascinating exploration of the secret lives of animals and native plants at her wildlife habitat. She shares memories of her father, who died suddenly but left her with curiosity, patience, and the ability to appreciate small details. Nancy also talks about the repercussions of chronic noise from gas-powered leaf blowers and the impacts of artificial feeders on plants and animals.

To close the episode, we leave you with a short reading by Nancy from WildScape (1:27:30) about the awe and childhood memories awakened within her by a yellow-billed cuckoo on a rainy day as her father was dying, grief and love sitting side by side, together in this passage. For more information about Nancy Lawson, visit her website at humanegardener.com

Hosted by Ann E. Wallace, PhD

Poet Laureate of Jersey City

Co-host Kim Correro,

Rutgers Master Gardener and Director of State Programs

Special Contributor Dr. Randi Eckel

Entomologist and Vice President of Membership NPSNJ