Episode 64 Part 2 – Realistic Optimism and the Truth About Healing with Zak Hazlett

In Part 2 of this deep-dive conversation, Zak Hazlett gets real about the hard work of healing. 

As a therapist, Zak offers a refreshing perspective on topics like toxic positivity, realistic optimism, and the delicate balance between being hopeful and facing life’s harsh realities.

Zak challenges the notion that healing is always a linear or beautiful journey. He explains why sometimes it’s about embracing the messy, difficult moments and why you—yes, YOU—are the key to your own transformation. He shares personal stories from his life and work, helping people find community and connection in a world where loneliness is at an all-time high.

In this episode, you’ll hear about:

• The difference between toxic positivity and realistic optimism—and why it matters
• Why movement, even just a walk, is vital for your mental health
• How to unlearn perfectionism and embrace authenticity, both in life and on social media

If you’re ready to hear some hard truths and inspiring advice about self-love, boundaries, and the reality of personal growth, Part 2 is not to be missed.

Get ready for an empowering conversation that will leave you feeling seen, heard, and ready to take on your own healing journey.

Learn more about Zak

Zak Hazlett (pronounced “hayzlit”) who was born and raised in the rugged beauty of Moab, where the Colorado River was more than just a backdrop—it was a way of life. Growing up to river guide parents and after spending over a decade as a river guide himself, Zak developed a deep connection with nature and a unique understanding of its power to heal and transform.

With a master's degree in marriage and family therapy and a thriving career as a therapist, also a certified yoga instructor and personal trainer, Zak’s true focus lies in leveraging the natural environment as a powerful tool for personal growth and holistic healing. Zak combined this rich experience with a passion for health and wellness to “Get Outside Together,” an outdoor recreation company, Zak uses the outdoors as a therapeutic approach to help individuals and groups heal, grow, and reconnect with themselves and the world around them.

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