Yale Brothers Podcast

Roger Yale, Chris Yale
Yale Brothers Podcast

Identical twins and performing songwriters The Yale Brothers came of age in Hollywood in the glory days of the late 1970s and early 1980s. This show tells the tales of their experiences, the people they met and the enduring friends they made in that magical time. Now living in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, this podcast is not all about looking back. It’s about life. And music.

  1. ٥ جمادى الآخرة

    Episode 92 - "A Conversation with Andrew Zimmern"

    Andrew Zimmern is likely best known to the general public for his Travel Channel shows “Bizarre Foods with Andrew Zimmern” and his Emmy-winning “The Zimmern List” But that’s just scratching the surface. He’s a renowned chef with bestselling books, media companies, shows, retail products, a retail food line and so much more. On February 13, Zimmern is set to speak at the Addiction and Recovery Lecture Series at Horry-Georgetown Technical College. He’s been sober since 1992 and remains active in the recovery and mental health communities. He serves on the boards of several recovery organizations. Roger has been covering series founder and organizer Casey King for many years and on various platforms. We also spoke to him on this podcast. The 2025 Addiction and Recovery Lecture series is installment number 18. Unfortunately, this will be the last. Casey’s wrapping things up and will also be retiring next year. For more information about the series, click HERE. We were thrilled to have Chef Zimmern on the show: SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "What Might Have Been" by Chris Yale 3:42 - Greetings and about the song 4:12 - Casey King / HGTC Addiction and Recovery Lecture Series / 18th and final installment / Casey's longstanding goals for the program 5:16 - More about the series / Louis Gossett, Jr. / Craig T. Nelson / Mackenzie Phillips / Dr. Drew Pinsky / Paul Williams / Art Alexakis / Danny Trejo / Tom Arnold 5:55 - Dr. Kevin McCauley (February 20) / Casey King (February 27) / Andrew Zimmern (February 13)  6:34 - Andrew Zimmern introduction 7:20 - Welcome, Chef / Myrtle Beach / Making television around the world / Thoughts about Myrtle Beach presentation 11:10 - Early life in culinary / Cooking in NYC  13:52 - Years of promise / Europe and Asia trips / Talent and culinary proficiency / Leading a double life 15:39 - More NYC / Anne Rosenzweig and Arcadia / Rakel (Thomas Keller and Serge Raoul) / Cooking in Venice / Grand Cafes / Quality and Speed, 1980s  18:26 - Work all day, party all night / Dangerous places / Addiction trajectory 20:24 - Descent into homelessness 23:18 - Asking for help / Final intervention 1992 / Hazelden  25:37 - Success after recovery / The gift of serenety / "Walking through the work" / Emotional and physical sobriety  32:30 - The steps and service work / Being of service / Life on life's terms 38:47 - Mental health and mental health awareness / C-Cap / Anxiety and Depression in culinary / Talking to others  40:06 - Empathy in the workplace / Co-regulation / Listening  27:26 - Final thoughts / Practicing solutions / Work-in-progress / Call one person / The importance of asking for help Resources:  Suicide and Crisis Lifeline: Call or text 988 Substance Abuse and Addiction Hotline: 1-844-289-0879  Alcoholics Anonymous: www.aa.org

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  2. ٢٠ جمادى الأولى

    Episode 91 - "Anxious and Socially Awkward"

    The twins discuss Chris' recent songwriting efforts, their recent show at House of Blues Myrtle Beach, trips to New York and Aruba, books, an author friend and so much more - and Chris was on a roll with riffing and wordplay. This episode is everything you'd expect, and less.  SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - Song snippet by Chris Yale - "Blackmailed" 1:03 - Greetings and about the snippet. Chris' recent songwriting efforts.  2:38 - Recent show on The Deck at House of Blues Myrtle Beach / Shout out to our friend Amy White for the booking and Erik Davey for sound production / David Gilmour Luck and Strange Tour t-shirts from our Bill Becker / More about Gilmour tour 5:35 - Roger's trip to New York - Brooklyn and Sleepy Hollow / South Slope / Hartley's Irish Pub / Hanging with daughter Taylor and her beau, Seán / All-you-can-eat mussels / Read about the trip on Roger's BLOG. 6:30 - Chris' new wordplay: "BoSeán" / More about NY trip / Our friend Evan Rochon at Daniel Murphy High School Los Angeles / Sacred Heart High School Los Angeles 10:00 - Listening to The Stones' "Some Girls" while stoned in the 1970s. / Weed, social awkwardness and anxiety 11:33 - "Statute of limitations" with parents / Sinning / "God will punish you." / Jesus took the punishment / Parental guilt / "Little Me and Big Me" 14:24 - Lilith / Lillith Fair / Indigo Girls / Sarah McLachlan / Paula Cole Band - "Where Have All the Cowboys Gone?" / Mary Gauthier 16:00 - Chris didn't pick up a South African guy's pictures from Fotomat. 17:17 - More New York Trip / Irvington / Tarrytown / Sleepy Hollow Cemetery / Old Dutch Church / Grand Central at rush hour / Hessians / Subway at rush hour / "Billy on the Street"  20:45 - Chris' trip to Aruba / TAA Show (Tobacconists' Association of America) / Cigar industry 22:32 - "The Purpose Driven Life" by Rick Warren / Mom's handwriting / "Bowie at 75" by Martin Popoff / Meeting Bowie 25:17 - Decluttering / "It's All Too Much: An Easy Plan for Living a Richer Life with Less Stuff" by Peter Walsh  26:12 - Wayne C. Dees, "Altered Perceptions" book and film / Roger's friendship with Dees / Roger's review of the book 28:25 - Chris went for the low-hanging fruit and started in with the "CDs" reference - IYKYK - Stop it, Chris.  30:01 - Chris' production problems with ZOOM LiveTrak L-8 / Fast-talking / Latency / Clipped like Tyne Daly 31:20 - Parting shots / Concrete Blonde vs. Four Non Blondes / More Lilith / Bebe Neuwirth / Jane Friedman is not Jill Abramson / Vocal fry

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  3. ١٧ ربيع الأول

    Episode 90 - "Keeping Everything Just So"

    The twins return and quickly go down the rabbit hole - talking about everything from songwriting to recording, performing live, taking proper naps, Jesus and the cosmos, decluttering and so much more - including a song recorded eons ago in Hollywood. SHOW NOTES: NOTE: This podcast episode is dedicated to the memory of our dear friend, Kathy DiGiacomo. You are irreplaceable and will remain in our hearts always. 0:00 - "Mine Again" by Roger Yale - Recorded at Paramount Recording Studios Hollywood, 1983. 3:47 - Greetings and about the song / Steve Kobashigawa / Nick Walusko aka Nicky Wonder (RIP) / 50th Anniversary Tour - "Pet Sounds" / Beach Boys Fan Club and Brian Wilson tribute to Nick / The Wondermints / Nick's work with Brian Wilson and Beach Boys backup band / Chris' adventures with Nick  8:07 - Chris alone at the house / Early waking / Proper sleep / Quiet time 9:38 - Off-season in Myrtle Beach / Growth in Myrtle Beach / Jobs / Myrtle beach as a TECH HUB 10:52 - Tommy James' open tuning / Irving Berlin's piano with transpose lever / Roger's transpose button / "Tin Pan Alley Twins" - Elton John "Bitter Fingers" 12:15 - Sound system dialed-in at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Roger's grandson at LuLu's - BLOG POST 14:20 - Roger's song ideas / snippets / Chris' songwriting / "Songwriter" movie with Willie Nelson / "Ishtar" 15:44 - "Down and Out in Paradise: The Life of Anthony Bourdain" by Charles Leerhsen / Asia Argento / "Unrequited Infatuations" by Stevie Van Zandt / More van Zandt / Apartheid / Sun City / South African Relatives 17:35 - Colonialists / Imperialists / Greed  18:19 - Band punctuation/grammar - "is" vs. "are" 18:40 - Roger's decluttering project / The ceasless vacuuming by Roger's upstairs neighbor / Close miking / Hoarding tendencies / Chris wiped his old iMac / Remote storage / Bearded Clam in "Family Guy" 21:55 - On napping / getting things done / Cleanup panic / Paul Rankin's figgy jam / Homemade pasta 23:50 - More about "Mine Again" / Roger Dollarhide / Alto Sax 24:30 - Henry Cutrona / The Hiding Place church in Los Angeles, 1980s / Dad rebuking Satan / "Shout at the Devil" Motley Crue / Christianity and cosmic matters / Carlos Castaneda / Chris: "Jesus is my sensei" / Danse Macabre / "Dance of Death" on the gallows

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  4. ١٠ محرم

    Episode 89 - "Hoop Skirts and Step-Throughs"

    The twins are back -ruminating about turning 61, discussing recording gear and software, computers and e-bikes. That's just the beginning. There's also their work at a well-known cigar shop in Myrtle Beach, recent concerts, reads, gigs and so much more - including a gem from the musical archive.  SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "What Might Have Been" by Chris Yale 3:40 - Greetings / July 4th Fireworks / About the song and Chris' album, "Well Enough Alone" 4:37 - On turning 61 5:09 - Chris' upgrade to Logic Pro 11 / New used iMac (2019) / Old Apogee Duet / Apple Loops 6:20 - "He had to be shown" / AA Big Book / "The Beer Experiment" / "The Milk Experiment"  7:22 - Chris' and Betsy's new KBO e-bikes /  Hoop skirts and step-throughs 8:54 - Chris at home without supervision 9:25 - "The Season" is back in Myrtle Beach / Cigar events at Tinder Box Myrtle Beach / Tinder Box memories 1970s and 1980s / Roger's first imported cigar - Macanudo Portofino / Chris' first imported cigar - Macanudo Baron de Rothschild / Domestic cigars 12:03 - Cigar snobs / $60 cigar versus a $12 cigar / Diminishing returns / $100 shots / Blowhards / Roger's take on cigar blends and aging  14:05 - "Beverly Hills Cop: Axel F" streaming / Hollywood exteriors / "Lucifer" series - Sunset Tower on Sunset Strip 15:06 - The Rolling Stones in Atlanta / Mercedes Benz Stadium / Chuck Leavell / Steve Jordan / Edify yourself / Darryl Jones / Wyman, lately  17:37 - "Stevie Van Zandt: Disciple" documentary / The duster and the bandana / Paul Stanley-ish? / Chris Lord-Alge  19:53 - Cubase / 64-gig memory on Chris' iMac / ZOOM LiveTrak L-8 / Logic Pro  21:00 - Roger's writing efforts / Post and Courier Myrtle Beach / Georgetown Times / Charles Perry / Roger's work with Grand Strand Magazine  21:39 - Queen sells music for $1.2 billion  22:05 -LuLu's North Myrtle Beach gigs 23:04 - Intracoastal Waterway / Bird Island / Sick Stooges / Brandon Toms / Freedom Boat Club 25:05 - Roger hits 10 years of sobriety / Getting stuff done 24:40 - "Turning Pro" by Steven Pressfield / Lao Tzu versus Sun Tzu / "Atlas Shrugged" and "The Fountainhead" by Ayn Rand / "A Tramp Across the Continent" by Charles Fletcher Lummis  27:03 - Parting shots / Our jobs at Tinder Box / Chris' slow internet / Chris' grandkids

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  5. ١١ شوال

    Episode 88 - "End Times Sandwich Board"

    In this episode, The Yale Brothers once again cover the waterfront - from The Grateful Dead to Ian Whitcomb, Gigs in Myrtle Beach to tripping at recording sessions, Roger's newspaper work to walking around Hollywood in the seventies and eighties. It's all that and more, including a musical gem from the archive.  SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "Strange Fascination" by Chris Yale 4:02 - Greetings and about the song /The call of the flesh / Sobriety / Second lineup of their band, Rogue Alley 6:42 - Noel Coward performs "Let's Do It (Let's Fall In Love)" in Las Vegas 7:14 - Myrtle Beach is getting busy again / Spring break / Underage booze and tobacco / Chris mistaken for a street hustler in Glendale, CA, 1985 8:23 - "Rough Trade" by Ian Whitcomb / Tripping balls at a Whitcomb recording session / Ronnie Barron / Dr. John 9:22 - Jerry Garcia spiked the coffee / Joe Smith / Early Dead documentary efforts 10:23 - "Long Strange Trip" docuseries / Workingman's Dead recording process / "Casey Jones" and "Uncle John's Band" / Roger's cover feature about Scott Mann, WAVE 104.1 Myrtle Beach / More about Scott Mann / More Dead 12:35 - The outdated P.A. / Roger's solo gig at Dirty Myrtle Wing Company - Bike Night rained out 16:43 - Upcoming Yale Brothers gig at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach  17:03 - Roger's latest story for The Post and Courier Myrtle Beach appeared in The Post and Courier Charleston / History of The Post and Courier 17:58 - More about Dirty Myrtle Wing Company 19:24 - Chris without adult supervision 20:06 - Chris' guitar string issues resolved on his PRS guitar / Dave Matthews / South African heritage / "Desiderata"  22:29 - Main Character Syndrome / Solipsism / Living in a movie 23:30 - Friend Daniel Alexander's gigs at Miceli's Hollywood / North Las Palmas Avenue, Hollywood / Drinking at Miceli's / "This Is Spinal Tap" at The Egyptian Theatre Hollywood / The Gold Cup Hollywood / Jackson Browne and Daryl Hannah / Newsstands on Las Palmas and Cahuenge Boulevard  26:33 - Stopping at Del Taco in San Bernardino / Dick Naugle / Naugle's  27:11 - Walking around Hollywood between La Brea Avenue and Highland Avenue - Franklin Avenue to Sunset Blvd / Driving the freeways / Close calls and dropping a bike 29:36 - "Sound Pictures: The Life of Beatles Producer George Martin, The Later Years, 1966-2016" by Kenneth Womack / "Pity the Reader: On Writing With Style" by Kurt Vonnegut and Suzanne McConnell  31:28 - Aerosmith show reseheduled for October / Steven Tyler larynx / Rolling Stones in June  32:12 - Benzedrine inhaler  32:34 - Chris' new studio monitors - Kali Audio LP6 Version 2 / Dip switch 34:55 - Parting shots / Chris' beard / Pizza for days / Iran strikes Israel / End times sandwich board / Argent

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  6. ١٠ رمضان

    Episode 87: "Crows, Squirrels and Bad Lamb"

    From recording in an iconic L.A. studio back in the day to upcoming gigs in Myrtle Beach - from books, music and a wonderful streaming series to shooting the Rogue Alley video (also back in the day) - from food to Bob Dylan and Bebe Neuwirth - the twins wonder how they manage to keep it all together. Also: Another musical gem from the archive.  SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "End of the Line" by Chris Yale - 1984 3:29 - Greetings - Happy St. Patrick's Day / About the song / Paramount Recording Studios / Roger Dollarhide / Kepex noise gate 4:59 - More Dollarhide / Motown / Gwen Gordy / Recording at Paramount / Bobby Womack / Blow / Mary Wells or Mary Wilson / Billy Preston / Korg Poly-61 / Bill Withers' DAT machine  7:08 - Dee's Nuts brand 7:49 - Bad lamb / More bone than meat / New York Prime / Ruth's Chris / Capriccio Myrtle Beach / Filet Marsala / Guy Smith 11:00 - Shari Lewis odering lamb chops / "Lamb Chop's Play Along " Roger's twins 11:58 - Stan Hutchinson - RIP 12:24 - Upcoming Bob Dylan show / No phones allowed / Yondr Bag 14:28 - Previous Dylan shows / G.E. Smith / Dylan and Willie Nelson in Myrtle Beach  15:00 - Chris still sounds like Bebe Neuwirth or Antoni Porowski  15:24 - Lilith / Mary Magdalene / Tom Petty and Bob Dylan at Pacific Amphitheatre in Costa Mesa - Roger thought it was Irvine Meadows  16:02 - Billy Squier at Irvine Meadows / "Rock Me Tonite" video / Dave Slusher  17:16 - "City of Pain" video - Rogue Alley / Dancer auditions / FM Station / Fontana / Kaiser Steel Mill / Terminator 2: Judgment Day  18:42 - High in the sky / Pie-eyed in the sky 20:27 - Upcoming shows at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Piano elbow progress report / Left-handed practice / Backing tracks / 2 Live Crew / University of Miami glory days 22:18 - "The Chosen" series / Way cooler Jesus / "Jesus Revolution" / Noel Coward as Jesus? / Roger's Noel Coward project / Crowdfunding "The Chosen" 26:55 - Crown Theatre Fayetteville, N.C. / Crown Complex 27:45 - Oliver Sacks, "Hallucinations" / Little Free Library / "Awakenings" / Leonardo Da Vinci biography by Walter Isaacson / "The Coddling of the American Mind" / Taking notes on Kindle / Chat GPT 32:16 - Ron Miller / Motown / "I've Never Been to Me" - Charlene / "For Once In My Life" - Stevie Wonder  33:17 - Parting shots / More hallucinations / Crows / Squirrels / Language / Jezebel / "My Life In the Bush of Ghosts" - Brian Eno and David Byrne

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  7. ١٧ شعبان

    Episode 86 - "Ready Rubbed"

    Is 60 the new 40? Is Chris too old to look like Jesus? Remember the patch on Julia Child's blouse?  Of course, the twins go down rabbit holes in this eipsode - and it's probably Roger's fault. From rock video shoots to Bible difficulties, Pete Townshend to L.A. Guns, Depeche Mode to W.A.S.P, the banter continues into books, pipes and tobacco, streaming television and more - including a musical gem from the archive.  SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "Salieri" by Chris Yale 4:07 - Greetings and about the song / "Amadeus" / "Rock Spock" aka Peder Rudling / GarageBand / Logic Pro  6:26 - Myrtle Beach versus Carolina Forest / Bible Difficulties / "Encyclopedia of Bible Difficulties" by Gleason Archer / God and John Cena: "You Can't See Me" 7;48 - Old Testament rules and regulations / New Testament / Opposition to Jesus by "religious" people / Man-made religion / Truth to power 9:02 - "The Chosen" series / "Julia"  series / Julia Child / "Hazel" Shirley Booth / It's not Alice Brady, dumbass / Julia's "L'Ecole des Trois Gourmandes" patch 10:12 - Pete Townshend album, "Scoop"  10:52 - Is 60 the new 40? / Blood pressure / Drinking 12:42 - Roger's solo gig at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Allen & Heath ZED-12FX  14:04 - "Rehab is for quitters" and "meetings are for alcoholics" / Songwriting challenge / Zoom LiveTrak L-8 for multitracking and as an audio interface 15:57 - Chris' encounter with Dave Gahan of Depeche Mode at Spotlight Tattoo in Hollywood 17:10 - Chris is too old to look like Jesus / Other biblical figures / Walt Whitman / "Song of Myself" / "I Sing the Body Electric" / "Fame" movie  18:21 - L.A. Guns / Kelly Nickels / Sass Jordan video shoot - "Make You a Believer" / John Corabi / Jim Alden 20:00 - Chris Holmes / W.A.S.P. / "Mean Man" / "The Decline of Western Civilization" / Control freaks / More about W.A.S.P / Blackie Lawless / Rogue Alley - attempts to get signed / Tromping around the Sunset Strip / "Sunset Strip" documentary 26:52 - "The Coddling of the American Mind" / Safetyism  26:52 - Chris' pipe collection / Mississippi River barrel-aged pipe tobacco / "Ready Rubbed" / Edgeworth Ready Rubbed 28:22 - Staggering growth in Myrtle Beach  28:39 - More about "Julia" and "The Chosen" / "Sound Pictures: The Life of Beatles Producer George Martin, The Later Years, 1966-2016" by Kenneth Womack / "Green Lights" by Matthew McConaughey / Bebe Neuwirth / Jill Abramson / Vocal fry / Fry Baby / Cry Baby / Fender Tone Master Princeton Reverb 31:26 - Roger's "piano elbow" / Little strap-on / Chris' shoulder / Stretching / Old man noises  33:36 - Parting shots / Cidny Bullens in Lefsetz Letter / "TransElectric: My Life as a Cosmic Rock Star"

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  8. ٦ شعبان

    Episode 85 - "Dangling Participles and Feminine Articles"

    The twins return with a full dance card, covering the waterfront with magic, clowns, music gear and more, including Roger's magazine feature, an awesome Grammys moment, books and Chris' loop experiment. SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - Chris' "Latin Space Vibe" in Apple Loops/Logic Pro 1:14 - Greetings and about the loop 2:28 - Lefsetz delay / Latency / Roger's interface issues / Humblebrag Insult / Roger's breakfast / Scott Mann, "Really good bread"  4:30 - Luke Combs and Tracy Chapman at Grammys / "Fast Car" / Daniel Sims / Chapman at Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum / Human Rights Now! 1988  6:58 - Mike Heidtman aka Seaside Showman aka Captain Mike / Magic Castle / Ringling Brothers and Barnum & Bailey Clown College Alumni Cruise  7:35 - Self-serving / Self-service / Appetites 8:26 - Magicians Chris knew from the Magic Castle and the Magic Hotel (now Magic Castle Hotel) / Peter DePaula / Hank Morehouse / Terry Seabrooke / Billy McComb / Lance Burton / Reveen the Impossibilist / Abb Dickson / Maxwell Grant aka Walter B. Gibson / The Shadow / Robert Harbin / Mark Wilson Course in Magic / Yutaka Kikuchi / Fickle Fire / Shimada  11:51 - Roger's ventriloquist dummy / Magic and ventriloquist shows as kids 12:34 - Slow season in Myrtle Beach / Growth in Myrtle Beach / "New" New York / Carolina Forest versus old Myrtle Beach  14:04 - Roger's feature article in Grand Strand Magazine / Casey King / HGTC Addiction and Recovery Lecture Series / Dangling participles and feminine articles  16:02 - "Scattershot" by Bernie Taupin / "These Dreams" / "We Built This City" / Grace Slick / "Welcome to the Wrecking Ball" / Mickey Thomas / Irwindale / First-time song memories 19:39 - On being grandparents 21:00 - Chris' studio improvements / California Blonde SWR / Davey Johnstone / Fender Tone Master Princeton  24:19 - "Piano elbow" / Left-hand octave boogie bass  26:05 - George Martin / "Sound Pictures: The Life of Beatles Producer George Martin, The Later Years, 1066-2016 / Keenan Wallace Dunham / Keenan's screenplay, "Rain Falls on Everyone" / "The Crown" / Princess Diana / King Charles and the state of the monarchy / "The Chosen" 27:55 - "George Carlin's American Dream" / "Time Has Come Today" by Harold Bronson / Rhino Records  28:52 - Carlin on pro-life conservatives  30:17 - Parting shots / Zoom LiveTrak L-8 / MXR EQ pedal / Old dude sayings / Trump visit to Myrtle Beach Area / Chris' Spanish lessons

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Identical twins and performing songwriters The Yale Brothers came of age in Hollywood in the glory days of the late 1970s and early 1980s. This show tells the tales of their experiences, the people they met and the enduring friends they made in that magical time. Now living in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, this podcast is not all about looking back. It’s about life. And music.

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