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Downloaded over 500,000 times! Experts On The Wire is a monthly SEO podcast hosted by Dan Shure. Discover new trends, tactics, tools, people, and businesses doing remarkable work in the world of Search Engine Optimization. Past guests include Rand Fishkin, Brian Dean, Annie Cushing, Noah Kagan & Vanessa Fox. I'm an SEO consultant myself, so we dig deep into SEO, technical challenges, growth stories, mobile SEO, eCommerce, crawling, content marketing & more.

Experts On The Wire (An SEO Podcast!‪)‬ Dan Shure (SEO)

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Downloaded over 500,000 times! Experts On The Wire is a monthly SEO podcast hosted by Dan Shure. Discover new trends, tactics, tools, people, and businesses doing remarkable work in the world of Search Engine Optimization. Past guests include Rand Fishkin, Brian Dean, Annie Cushing, Noah Kagan & Vanessa Fox. I'm an SEO consultant myself, so we dig deep into SEO, technical challenges, growth stories, mobile SEO, eCommerce, crawling, content marketing & more.

    131: Bias in SEO, Overconfident SEO Case Studies, Google’s SERP Struggles w/Sarah Presch

    131: Bias in SEO, Overconfident SEO Case Studies, Google’s SERP Struggles w/Sarah Presch

    Sarah Presch, is Digital Marketing Director at Dragon Metrics. She holds degrees in both Psychology and Digital Marketing and has been doing SEO, Marketing and Psychomarketing in corporate roles for 12 years.

    As SEOs, I think we spend FAR too much time obsessing over Google ‘Ranking Factors’ (most recently the API leaks) and NOT enough time trying to actually understand and empathize with searchers – the people we are supposedly making content for and trying to win over in the SERPs. 

    In this conversation, Sarah brings her unique perspective drawing from her background in psychology to help unpack some of the psychological perspectives searchers have – particularly cognitive biases.

    If you want to gain a deeper understanding and get into the minds of the people who search Google – the same people who traffic websites and ultimately drive revenue and business goals for sites and businesses – this episode is definitely worth a listen!

    Topics In This Episode:



    * Cognitive Biases in Search

    * Why were AI Overviews such a miss for Google?

    * The importance of fact-checking for SEO content

    * Search and Social Impacts on the Nervous System

    * How did biases impact how the SEO world reacted to Google’s API Leaks?

    * Biases like Confirmation Bias in SEO Case Studies

    * Why do overconfident people actually believe they are good at SEO?

    * Should Google play a role in preventing misinformation?

    * What else can we as SEOs do to understand searchers better?



    And much more – listen now!



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    127: Image Optimization, Algorithmic Biases, ADHD & SEO w/Myriam Jessier

    097: Improve Your SEO With Keyword Psychographics w/Marty Weintraub



    Articles, Resources, and Links



    * https://www.dragonmetrics.com/confirmation-bias/

    * https://www.sarahpresch.com/post/cognitive-biases-in-seo

    * Neurodivergents in SEO

    * Google API Leak: Sparktoro’s initial post about it

    * The Cyber Effect (book about misinformation online)

    * GBH’s Video mentioned re: the Title Update and example of Framing

    * Giulia Panozzo

    * Myriam Jessier

    * Petra Kis-Herczegh



    Find Sarah Online



    * Sarah on LinkedIn

    * Sarah on Twitter

    * a href="https://www.sarahpresch.

    • 1 hr 8 min
    130: The Future of SEO – Optimism In Uncertain Times w/Will Critchlow

    130: The Future of SEO – Optimism In Uncertain Times w/Will Critchlow

    Will Critchlow is the CEO of SearchPilot, an SEO A/B testing company. I invited Will back to Experts on the Wire to discuss the Future of SEO. I feel like things have felt very turbulent and uncertain in the SEO world lately (more than usual!) – because of things like AI/Chat-GPT, changes in how the community engages online, GA4, massive SERP changes from Google, and changes in the economy and world at large post-covid.

    I’ve always known Will for having a great perspective on the future of our industry so I wanted to get his take on what the future of SEO holds. Is THIS finally the inflection moment where ‘SEO is dead’? How does he see the next 5-10 years playing out? If it’s not dying, how will it look different? What should SEOs and businesses be doing to future-proof their marketing? How do we all navigate these big changes?

    Topics In This Episode Include:



    * How is AI affecting informational queries?

    * What the ancient steel and iron industry has to do with content

    * Is it worth still investing in content marketing?

    * How is the eCommerce SEO space changing? Is eCommerce and spending online down or is it growing?

    * Challenges for new people entering the SEO space

    * And lots more…



    Listen Now!



    Related Episodes You Might Like



    * Surviving SEO in an AI World w/Sara Taher

    * SEO Ranking Factors, A/B Testing and the Evolution of SEO w/Will Critchlow



    Tools Mentioned



    * Chat GPT

    * Gemini

    * SearchPilot

    * Content Aced (50% off – affiliate link)



    Articles, Resources, and Links Mentioned



    * https://www.perplexity.ai/

    * Where Web Users Spend Their Time vs Where Traffic Referrals Originate – Sparktoro

    * Google Anti-Trust Trial Documents

    * Women in Tech SEO



    Find Will Online



    * Will on LinkedIn

    * Will on Twitter

    • 1 hr 15 min
    129: Helpful Content Update Recovery and More w/Kristine Schachinger

    129: Helpful Content Update Recovery and More w/Kristine Schachinger

    Kristine Schachinger is an SEO Consultant, specializing in Technical SEO, SEO Website Audits, Growth Strategies, Google Penalty Recovery, Accessibility, Usability, LLMs, & Social Media. She has been an SEO for over 15 years and helped sites like Instacart, Vice, Zappos, usa.gov and many more.

    Topics In This Episode Include:



    * Why AI vs Human Content Comparison Studies are Silly

    * How AI has Changed SEO

    * How Does Google Detect “AI Content”?

    * Deep Dive Into The Helpful Content Update

    * Google’s Search Generative Experience

    * Why Core Web Vitals Is NOT a Ranking Factor Now

    * E.A.T.T. Myths and Why It’s Not a Ranking Factor, Ranking Signal or Ranking System

    * How To Learn About SEO From “The Source”

    * How To Find and Hire The Right SEO (And how to attract the right clients if you are an SEO)

    * Kristine’s Approach to Providing SEO Consulting



    Listen Now!



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    * Surviving SEO in an AI World with Sara Taher

    * “The Email” (A Solo Episode from 2017 about Google Phantom Update)



    Tools Mentioned



    * Midjourney

    * Sitebulb

    * Content Aced (50% off – affiliate link)

    * More being added soon!



    Articles, Resources, and Links Mentioned



    * Kristine’s Post About AI vs Human Content

    * Detecting AI Content with Watermarking (NY Times)

    * Google’s Developer Guide to Ranking Systems

    * Kristine’s Post About “EEAT” on LinkedIn

    * My article from 2020 about EAT and Core Updates

    * More Being Added Soon!



    Find Kristine Online



    * Kristine on LinkedIn



     

    • 1 hr 16 min
    Updates About This Podcast!

    Updates About This Podcast!

    Join me for 5 mins with some updates about Experts on the Wire (and new episode announcements!)

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    Check out Content Aced – a high-powered research assistant tool that helps you find topical gaps in your content: https://www.evolvingseo.com/contentaced for 50% off.

    • 6 min
    128: Surviving SEO in an AI World: Strategic SEO vs Checklist SEO w/Sara Taher

    128: Surviving SEO in an AI World: Strategic SEO vs Checklist SEO w/Sara Taher

     

    If you’re trying to keep up with AI in the SEO world, while remaining strategic and not just following a checklist, this episode is for you!

    My guest today is Sara Taher who has been an SEO consultant since 2014.

    Topics In This Episode Include:



    How to incorporate AI in your SEO workflow (tons of great tools mentioned!)

    The Risk of AI to Content Creators 

    The importance of TikTok SEO, Video Indexing, and having Video Strategy

    Create YouTube descriptions with AI

    A little something for you tech SEO fans – a couple of interesting ways to audit a site f or JS and SEO

    And lots more! 



    Listen Now!  



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    * Image Optimization and Algorithmic Biases w/Myriam Jessier 

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    Tools Mentioned









    * ChatGPT

    * ChatGPT Code Interpreter

    * Jasper

    * Midjourney

    * Eightify YouTube Summaries

    * Fixing eye content on videos with AI

    * The Web Developer Plugin

    * View Rendered Source Plugin









    Articles, Resources, and Links Mentioned









    * LearningSEO.io

    * https://www.perplexity.ai/

    * The Risk of AI To Content Creators

    * Video Indexing Report

    * SEO in the age of AI

    * Doing SEO for TikTok

    * Scraping YouTube with Python

    * Auditing JavaScript for SEO









    Find Sara Online



    * Sara’s Blog

    * Sara on LinkedIn

    • 53 min
    127: Image Optimization, Algorithmic Biases, ADHD & SEO w/Myriam Jessier

    127: Image Optimization, Algorithmic Biases, ADHD & SEO w/Myriam Jessier

    It’s hard to convey the huge variety of topics we covered in this action-packed episode with just a 60-character title!

    Myriam Jessier is an SEO Trainer, SEO Consultant, and co-owner of PRAGM, a technical marketing agency. She speaks three languages and has been doing SEO for over 15 years.

    I had a blast talking with her, and I learned a lot listening back to this conversation – this was my longest episode ever clocking in at almost 2 hours! But it will fly… 

    Topics In This Episode Include:



    * Breaking through the “curse of knowledge” in SEO

    * Understanding the psychology and emotions of searchers

    * The weaknesses of keyword intent analysis at scale

    * Why PageSpeed Insights may not realize you’ve already compressed your images

    * Working with developers 

    * Understanding “Graceful degradation” 

    * Applying Librarian Skills to SEO

    * A GeoIP Redirects Rant

    * Algorithmic Biases, Gendered Language, and Keyword Research

    * The parallels between furniture design and SEO

    * Tips for working in SEO with ADHD

    * And lots more!



    Listen Now!



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    Articles, Resources, and Links Mentioned









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    Find Myriam Online



    * Myriam on LinkedIn

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    * PRAGM Search Agency

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    • 1 hr 48 min

Customer Reviews

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73 Ratings

73 Ratings

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