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In The Briefing by the IP Law Blog, intellectual property attorney Scott Hervey and his guests discuss current IP issues related to trademark, copyright, and entertainment, as well as IP litigation and intellectual property in the news.

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In The Briefing by the IP Law Blog, intellectual property attorney Scott Hervey and his guests discuss current IP issues related to trademark, copyright, and entertainment, as well as IP litigation and intellectual property in the news.

    The Briefing: Another Court Gets It Right in Tattoo Copyright Dispute

    The Briefing: Another Court Gets It Right in Tattoo Copyright Dispute

    The recent decision on Hayden vs. 2K Games is a big win for video game publishers.  Dive into the fascinating world of copyright disputes over tattoos in video games. Scott Hervey and Jamie Lincenberg from Weintraub Tobin discuss how this case compares to past decisions and what it means for athletes, celebrities, and the video game industry on the latest episode of “The Briefing”

    Get the full episode on the Weintraub YouTube channel here or listen to this podcast episode here.















    Show Notes:

    Scott Two years ago, I took the position that the District Court for the Southern District of Illinois and the Court of Appeals in the case of Alexander versus Take2 Interactive Software got it completely wrong when they found that the depiction of tattoos on wrestler Randy Orton in a video game published by Take2 Interactive infringed the tattoo artist's copyright in the tattoos. I said that both the court's rejection of Take-Two's defenses, defenses that won the day in the US District Court for the Southern District of New York in Solid Oak Sketches versus 2K Games was absolutely incorrect. Now, we have the US District Court for the Northern District of Ohio deciding another copyright dispute over an inked athlete depicted in a take two interactive video game, and this court got it right. I'm Scott Hervey from Weintraub Tobin, and I'm joined today by frequent Briefing contributor, Jamie Lincenberg, and we're going to talk about this case, Hayden versus 2K Games, Inc, on this next installment of “The Briefing.” Jamie, welcome back to the briefing.

    Jamie

    Thanks, Scott. It's good to be here again.

    Scott

    So, let's dive right into this case because these tattoo lawsuits, I find them interesting. Well, this one decision that I previously noted, the Alexander case, really got under my skin. But let's talk about this one first. The result in Hayden versus 2K Games was a jury verdict. The jury found that 2K Games enjoyed an implied license to incorporate a depiction of certain tattoos on LeBron James and that the depiction, as depicted on a video game character, did not violate the copyright of Hayden, who was the tattoo artist that created these tattoos. This was the same result that the court reached in Solid Oak Sketches versus Take-Two Interactive.

    Jamie

    Yes, that case also involved LeBron James' tattoos and the NBA 2K video game.

    Scott

    That's right. Solid Oak was a licensing firm that represented or represents, probably still, the go-to tattoo artist for NBA players. And Solid Oak Sketches sued Take-Two Interactive Software, the game publisher behind the popular NBA 2K basketball video game. And Solid Oak Sketches alleged that the game maker's depiction of LeBron James and his tattoos, infringe the tattoo artist copyright in six tattoos. In ruling on the video game publisher's motion for summary judgment, the court found that the publisher had an implied license to depict the tattoos in the video game. Now, an implied license exists where one party created work at the other party's request and handed it over, intending that the other party copy and distribute or otherwise use it in the manner intended. The court in this case found that the players had an implied license to use the tattoos as elements of their likeness, and the defendants right to use the tattoos in depicting players in the video game derives from this implied license from the tattoo artist to the player. A crucial element of the court's finding that the tattoo artist knew their subject...

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    Paramount Splashes Top Gun Maverick Copyright Lawsuit

    Paramount Splashes Top Gun Maverick Copyright Lawsuit

    Paramount triumphs in the Top Gun Maverick copyright case. Join Scott Hervey and Jamie Lincenberg of Weintraub Tobin on 'The Briefing' as they dissect the court's ruling.

    Get the full episode on the Weintraub YouTube channel here or listen to this podcast episode here.















    Show Notes:

    Scott

    Paramount was finally able to shoot down Ehud Yonay's copyright infringement lawsuit, which alleged that Top Gun Maverick, the sequel to the popular 1986 motion picture Top Gun, infringed the copyright in his magazine article. The district Court granted Paramount's motion for summary judgment and dismissed Yonay’s complaint. I'm Scott Hervey from Weintraub Tobin, and I'm here today with Jamie Lincenberg from Weintraub Tobin and we're going to talk about the Court's ruling on this installment of “The Briefing.” Jamie, welcome back to “The Briefing.”  

    Jamie

    Thanks for having me today, Scott.  

    Scott

    Great. Well, first, let's get into the facts of the case a little bit. So, in May 1983, California Magazine published the article Top Guns by Ehud Yonay. This article was an inside look at the real Navy fighter's weapons school, Top Gun, based out of Miramar, California. The article begins with a vivid description of two Top Gun F-14 Tomcat aviators, Yogi and Possum, on a hop, a simulated dogfight training against two Top Gun instructors. Then, the article continues with a deep dive into what makes Yogi and Possum and the other fighter pilots at Top Gun tick. A look at the Top Gun training regimen, what life on the base is like, and the history of Top Gun. When the article was published, it was optioned. In the credits for Top Gun, Yonay is credited in the original movie as the writer of the magazine article.  

    Jamie

    On January 23rd, 2018, the Yonays properly availed themselves of their right to recover the copyright to the story optioned by Paramount by sending Paramount a statutory notice of termination under the Copyright Act, and then filed it with the Copyright Office. As we have discussed previously on this program, Section 203 of the Copyright Act permits authors or their successors to terminate grants of copyright assignments and licenses that were made on or after January 1, 1978, when certain conditions have been met. Upon the effective date of termination, all rights in the work that were covered by the terminated grant revert to the author. However, any derivative work prepared under the authority of the grant before its termination may continue to be utilized under the terms of the grant after its termination. But this privilege does not extend to the preparation after the termination of other derivative works based upon the copyrighted work covered by the terminated grant. The Yonays sued Paramount for copyright infringement, claiming that the Top Gun Maverick infringes that Yonays rite in their original article.  

    Scott

    In Paramount's motion for summary judgment, the court took into account expert testimony of both parties. The court found that the plaintiff's expert testimony was unhelpful and inadmissible because that expert failed to filter out the elements of the article and the sequel that are not protectable by copyright law.  

    Jamie

    In order to state a claim for infringement, a plaintiff must show substantial similarity between the work's protected elements. Determining whether works are substantially similar involves a two-part analysis consisting of, one, the extrinsic test and two, the intrinsic test.

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    The Briefing Filmmakers Express Concern Over Impending Death of ‘Biographical Anchor’ Fair Use Basis

    The Briefing Filmmakers Express Concern Over Impending Death of ‘Biographical Anchor’ Fair Use Basis

    Unraveling the threads of Fair Use and how recent legal rulings threaten documentary filmmakers.  Join Scott Hervey and Jamie Lincenberg as they dissect the Tenth Circuit's Impact on filmmaking in this episode of 'The Briefing.'



    Get the full episode on the Weintraub YouTube channel here or listen to this podcast episode here.













    Show Notes:

    Scott

    Leading up to the Supreme Court's decision in Andy Warhol Foundation versus Goldsmith, there was significant concern by documentary filmmakers about how the Court's decision in favor of Goldsmith could upend how those filmmakers make use of fair use as part of the filmmaking process. Now, in light of the Tenth Circuit recent application of the Warhol case in Timothy Seppi versus Netflix, filmmakers are again concerned and are calling for a rehearing or an inbound rehearing. If left uncheck, the Motion Picture Association said that this decision threatens to severely impair the ability of filmmakers and other creators to create documentaries, docudramas, biographies, and other works based on the real world. I am Scott Hervey from Weintraub Tobin, and today I'm joined by my colleague, Jamie Lincenberg. We are going to talk about the Tenth Circuit's controversial decision in Seppi versus Netflix. On this installment of “The Briefing.” Jamie, welcome back to “The Briefing.”



     

    Jamie

    Thanks for having me, Scott.



     

    Scott

    For a while now, I have expressed some concern that the Warhol case does, in fact, remove a fair use basis that filmmakers have relied on for quite some time. The use of a third-party clip or third-party content as a biographical anchor. That is, quoting copyrighted works of popular culture to illustrate an argument or point, and the use of copyrighted material in a historical sequence. Those have been used for a very long time by filmmakers, and they've been regarded as a best practice in fair use.



     

    Jamie

    Right. A great example of what a biographical anchor looks like comes from the of Hofheinz first A&E Television Networks, where the court found that a TV biography that used a short clip of movie star Peter Graves from one of his earliest films was justified, not because it commented on the original film, but because it enabled the viewer to understand the actor's modest beginnings in the film business.



     

    Scott

    That's right. The Tenth Circus decision in Seppi runs the risk of forever reversing decades of jurisprudence. Seppi, some facts of the case. Seppi was a former Zoom employee who livestream the funeral of the husband of Joe Exotic. Joe Exotic, Tiger King, right? Everybody knows Joe Exotic and Tiger King. Netflix used a one-minute portion of the funeral video in its series, Tiger King. Netflix tried to dismiss Seppi's infringement claim based on fair use, specifically based on the biographical anchor claim or jurisprudence. Post-war hall in determining fair use, courts ask, as part of the first factor, whether and to what extent the use at issue has a purpose or character different from the original and whether that supports a justification for copying. Now, the appeals court granted Seppi's opposition to Netflix's motion, finding that Netflix's use was not transformative under the first fair use factor since it did not criticize or comment on the work itself, meaning the video that Seppi filmed, but instead was used to comment on and criticize Joe Exotic.



     

    Jamie

    The concerns from the parties that filed briefs requesting review of this decision all ex...

    • 9 min
    The Briefing: Netflix Defamation Lawsuit About Inventing Anna – Not an Imposter

    The Briefing: Netflix Defamation Lawsuit About Inventing Anna – Not an Imposter

    Update on Rachel Williams' defamation lawsuit against Netflix's "Inventing Anna." Weintraub lawyers Scott Hervey and Jamie Lincenberg discuss the recent court ruling as a warning for docudrama producers on "The Briefing." Get the full episode on the Weintraub YouTube channel here or listen to this podcast episode here.















    Show Notes:

    Scott

    We have an update on the defamation lawsuit brought by Rachel Williams, the Vanity Fair photo editor whose friendship with Anna Delvey, who passed herself off as German heiress Anna Sorkin, was featured in the Netflix series Inventing Anna. The news is not great for Netflix, and this should be a warning for producers of docudramas who take creative license with facts. I'm Scott Hervey from Weintraub Tobin, and today, I'm joined by fellow Weintraub lawyer Jamie Lincenberg. We are going to review this lawsuit, the recent court ruling not allowing Netflix to get out from under William's defamation claim, and talk about how this should be a concern for producers of the genre du jour docudramas on today's installment of “The Briefing” by Weintraub Tobin. Jamie, welcome back to “The Briefing.”  

    Jamie

    Thanks for having me today, Scott.  

    Scott

    So, let's jump right into this. For those who may not remember, Rachel Williams is a real person. At the time of her portrayal in the Netflix program Inventing Anna, she was a Vanity Fair photo editor and a friend to Anna Delvey, also known as Anna Sorkin. Williams did not come across well in inventing Anna.  

    Jamie

    No, she didn't. She comes across as a privileged freeloader who sponges off of Sorkin and then abandons her when her real situation comes to life.  

    Scott

    True, true. She does come across that way. As a result, Williams sued for defamation. Now, in order to prevail, she would have to demonstrate that her portrayal in inventing Anna was an assertion of fact was actually false or created a false impression about her, that it was highly offensive to a reasonable person or was defamatory. Since Williams is a public figure, she published a story in Vanity Fair and published a book about her experience with Sorkin; she must also prove by clear and convincing evidence the statements were made with actual malice, meaning that the defendants knew that the statements were false or had serious doubts about the truth of the statement.  

    Jamie

    There are numerous instances of William's portrayal in this series, she claims to be actionable. We recently reran the podcast episode where you first reported on this lawsuit, where you covered all of the instances in detail. So, there's no need to do that here. Instead, let's look at the two portrayals addressed by the court in denying Netflix's motion to dismiss. Both of those have to do with the scene in Morocco where Williams leaves.  

    Scott

    That's right. The first portrayal comes after several scenes depicting the problems with the credit cards at the hotel and a very expensive private museum tour. Williams tells Anna, who is portrayed as being alone in her room, drinking and heavily depressed, that she is leaving. Sorkin is portrayed as begging Williams not to leave her, but Williams leaves anyways. Now, the next portrayal is the following statements that's made by another character in Inventing Anna. This character says, “Please, Rachel abandoned Anna, kicked her when she was down, and left her alone in some foreign country. Rachel's happy to call herself Anna's friend when it means free ‘stuff’ trips to Morocco. But as soon as times got tough, some friend.” actually, the character didn't say “tough” or “stuff,” she said some expletive that we won't use here on ...

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    Brandy Melville Doubles Down Against Redbubble

    Brandy Melville Doubles Down Against Redbubble

    The ongoing dispute between Brandy Melville and Redbubble over trademark and copyright infringement continues. Despite previous setbacks, Brandy Melville has filed a new lawsuit against Redbubble, alleging the sale of counterfeit products and copyright infringement. Scott Hervey and Jamie Lincenberg from Weintraub Tobin explore the history of the dispute, the claims made in the new complaint, and potential legal strategies moving forward.

    Get the full episode on the Weintraub YouTube channel here or listen to this podcast episode here.















    Show Notes:

    Scott We have covered Brandy Melville's dispute with Redbubble, including the Ninth Circuit's refusal to hold Redbubble liable for contributory copyright infringement because Redbubble didn't know or have reason to know of specific incidents of infringement by its users and the Supreme Court's refusal to take on Brandy Melville's certiorari petition. Despite these significant setbacks, Brandy Melville seems determined to hold Redbubble accountable and has filed a new lawsuit against Redbubble. I'm Scott Hervey from Weintraub Tobin, and today I'm joined by Weintraub lawyer Jamie Lincenberg to talk about this update in the Brandy Melville Redbubble Dispute on this installment of “The Briefing” by Weintraub Tobin. Jamie, welcome back to the briefing.

    Jamie Thanks, Scott. I'm glad to be here and happy we can jump into this Brandy Melville Redbubble case again.

    Scott This is our third conversation about Brandy Melville Redbubble, and I have the feeling that it will not be our last. Before we dive into this new complaint, can you take us back through the history of the Brandy Melville Redbubble dispute?

    Jamie Sure. The dispute began in 2018 when Brandy Melville, the popular clothing retailer, brought a trademark infringement suit against Redbubble, an online marketplace that allows independent artists to upload their own designs for on-demand printing on various items of merchandise. Brandy Melville had found products on Redbubble's website that infringed the company's trademarks. Initially, the District Court had found Redbubble liable for both willful contributory counterfeiting of the marks and contributory infringement of the marks. Then, on appeal, the Ninth Circuit Appellate Panel overturned much of the lower Court's findings.

    Scott And then, as we know, the Supreme Court denied certiorari to Brandy Melville's petition, thus letting stand the Ninth Circuit's holding. So here we are again. Brandy Melville filed a new complaint against Redbubble on March 29, 2024, which alleges that Redbubble is advertising, creating, and selling counterfeit Brandy Melville products, which incorporate exact replicas of the Registered Chilled Since trademark and Radio Silence trademark. They've added a couple of new causes of action that we'll talk about, such as a claim that these products infringe and include exact because of the Registered Comic Eyes copyrighted design.

    Jamie The trademark claims made in this new complaint are mostly the same as the trademark claims Brandy Melville made in its case against Redbubble the first time around. So, Unless Brandy Melville alleges a failure to redress specific instances of infringement or infringers, it may seem the same result as the first case.

    Scott I agree. But it's worth noting that This new complaint does seem to focus on this heightened standard imposed by the Ninth Circuit. Brandy Melville claims that Redbubble continued to sell counterfeit items bearing one or more of the exact same designs and brands even after Brandy Melville had previously reported them to Redbubble. Brandy Melville also contends that Redbubble has been,

    • 13 min
    How “knockoff” furniture landed Kim Kardashian in an IP lawsuit

    How “knockoff” furniture landed Kim Kardashian in an IP lawsuit

    Kim Kardashian faces a lawsuit from the Donald Judd Foundation for allegedly using and promoting knockoff furniture in her office tour video. While Kardashian's counsel denies liability, the case underscores the importance of due diligence in endorsements. Scott Hervey and Jamie Lincenberg from Weintraub Tobin dissect the legal drama in this installment of “The Briefing.”

     

    Get the full episode on the Weintraub YouTube channel here or listen to this podcast episode here.  















    Show Notes:

    Jamie Last week, the art world was buzzing with yet another dupe scandal. Kim Kardashian has been sued by the Donald Judd Foundation for using and promoting knockoffs of the late designer's furniture. We will dive into the details of this case on today's episode of "The Briefing." I'm Jamie Lincenberg of Weintraub Tobin, and I'm joining my colleague, Scott Hervey, on today's episode of "The Briefing."

    Scott Thank you for joining me today, Jamie. Can you provide us with a recap of how this case came about?

    Jamie Of course. Yeah. In a lawsuit filed just two weeks ago on March 27th in California's district Court, the foundation of artist Donald Judd, who passed in 1994, known famously for his minimalist designs, is suing reality television star and entrepreneur Kim Kardashian and the Los Angeles-based interior design firm, Clements Design, the company who's been faulted for fabricating and selling allegedly infringing tables and chairs to Kardashian. The lawsuit asserts that the firm sold Kardashian fakes of Judd's tables and chairs for the offices of Skin by Kim, which is Kardashian's skincare company, and accuses Kardashian of false endorsement and Clements Design of trademark and copyright infringement, false advertising, and unfair competition.

    Scott So this dispute stems originally from a video Kardashian posted on her personal YouTube account. Where she gave a tour to her followers of the Los Angeles office of her skincare brand, Skin by Kim. It's just a typical house tour, office tour-type video that influencers do. In this video, while showing a large communal kitchen and dining room, Kardashian said, "If you guys are furniture people, I've really gotten into furniture lately. These Donald Judd tables are really amazing, and they totally blend in with the seats." As of late January of this year, the video had been viewed more than 3.6 million times, and this video was then subsequently removed from YouTube a few days after the lawsuit was filed.

    Jamie That's right. So shortly after the video was posted, the Judd Foundation contacted Kim Kardashian and Clements Design, demanding that those furnishings in question be destroyed or recycled and that Kardashian issue a public statement. Kardashian ultimately declined to replace the furniture, retract the video, or issue a corrective statement. Her reps instead offered to update the caption information in the video and to create a separate social media post in which she would promote the Judd Foundation. The foundation rejected that as that would, of course, still allow the knockoff furniture to remain in the video online.

    Scott When the foundation learned that Clements Design, which is a well-known celebrity design firm, and apparently, they also custom-make furniture pieces. When they learned that Clements Design had made the knockoff furniture, it asked for an agreement that the design company would never make and sell fake Donald Judd furniture again and that it would return and recycle Kardashian's furniture, according to the complaint. But the design company rejected both requests and denied the foundation's rights to the furniture design.

    Jamie So,

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