112 episodes

"We refuse to believe that the bank of justice is bankrupt.” Black and White and Thin Blue Lines is an original podcast created by two former police officers, Serge Antonin and Clarke Ahlers, who are inspired by the hopeful words of the Reverend Martin Luther King. Serge Antonin is African American. Clarke Ahlers is Caucasian. The podcast is a discussion about current issues in criminal justice and law enforcement, especially where these issues intersect the topic of race.

Black and White and Thin Blue Lines Clarke Ahlers & Serge Antonin

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    • 4.8 • 23 Ratings

"We refuse to believe that the bank of justice is bankrupt.” Black and White and Thin Blue Lines is an original podcast created by two former police officers, Serge Antonin and Clarke Ahlers, who are inspired by the hopeful words of the Reverend Martin Luther King. Serge Antonin is African American. Clarke Ahlers is Caucasian. The podcast is a discussion about current issues in criminal justice and law enforcement, especially where these issues intersect the topic of race.

    Artificial Intelligence Used in Genuine Stupidity and Crime!

    Artificial Intelligence Used in Genuine Stupidity and Crime!

    In Baltimore County, Maryland a man has been arrested and accused of creating and publishing a recording that purported to be a high school principal making offensive racial remarks to the vice-principal. This is the new world of artificial intelligence and is the topic of a discussion between Serge and Clarke. Be assured: this episode is a genuine Black and White and Thin Blue Lines podcast. Avoid cheap imitations!

    • 26 min
    The Kenny Somers Story -- A Baltimore Tale -- Part 2

    The Kenny Somers Story -- A Baltimore Tale -- Part 2

    In part 2 of the podcast, Kenny Somers reflects on the arrest, his incarceration, and his thoughts on the past and future of Baltimore. 

    • 39 min
    The Kenny Somers Story -- a Baltimore Tale of a Broken Criminal Justice System

    The Kenny Somers Story -- a Baltimore Tale of a Broken Criminal Justice System

    Imagine the following story. "John Doe" steals a car -- or more accurately, John Doe steals the same car two times. The car owner, Kenny Somers, a professional automobile recycler, recovers the car the first time and attempts to recover the car a second time. But John Doe has other plans and tries to kill Kenny Somers. Somers fights back and prevails. Police are called. While police are investigating, Somers kicks John Doe in the head as John Doe lay on a sidewalk. This is part one of a two part series of how the criminal justice non-system in Baltimore treated John Doe, Kenny Somers, and the responding Baltimore City Police Officer. This podcast is worth a listen!

    • 47 min
    The Inside Skinny on a Jury Trial in Manatee County, Florida

    The Inside Skinny on a Jury Trial in Manatee County, Florida

    Join Serge and Clarke as they share Nathan Steelman's experience sitting as a juror in judgment of a woman charged with domestic violence in Florida.  You have heard the expression "I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6." (Clarke disagrees: he would rather be carried by six than judged by 12).  But as you will learn, that expression doesn't work in Manatee County, Florida.  This episode is interesting, entertaining, and informative. Enjoy. 

    • 48 min
    The Tragic Death of NYPD Police Officer Jonathan Diller

    The Tragic Death of NYPD Police Officer Jonathan Diller

    Serge and Clarke comment in the murder of Ofc. Diller and update the listeners on renewed efforts on the Columbia Project. Worth a listen. 

    • 33 min
    Stand Your Ground Doesn't Legalize Illegal Deadly Force

    Stand Your Ground Doesn't Legalize Illegal Deadly Force

    Serge and Clarke celebrate Easter. We have friends who have a blessed Ramadan. We have friends who we will wish Happy Passover in several weeks. We have re-uploaded an episode. We will be back next week with a brand new episode.

    In rural New York, a 65-year old man fired two shots from his porch killing a young woman in a car who was lost and turned around in his driveway. In Missouri, an 84-year old man fired two shots from his front door injuring a teenager who rang his bell, mistakenly at the wrong address to pick up his younger brothers. In both cases, activists allege that stand your grounds laws are in part responsible for these tragic circumstances. Serge and Clarke discuss the cases and dismiss stand your ground arguments, but disagree on the lessons from these cases.

    • 44 min

Customer Reviews

4.8 out of 5
23 Ratings

23 Ratings

Sonikgrrrl ,

Enlightening & Entertaining

This is an excellent podcast! I’ve listened to every episode and look forward to each new installment. This podcast is as informative as it is entertaining. It’s so refreshing to hear people talk about their opposing viewpoints on very controversial subjects in a respectful manner. I really can’t say enough favorable things about this podcast and highly recommend everyone tune in and check it out.

jacquimeeker ,

Jan 6

Hoping you address January 6 from the point of view as if you were two police officers protecting the Capital

Hatchmo1 ,

Very Informative & Absolute Must Hear Podcast for the Layperson

As a 27 yr Public/Civil Servant (PGFD/EMS) I worked alongside The Blue Brothers on numerous occasions on calls & from time to time when they were able to break bread at the FireHouse in between calls. I applaud both Clarke & Serge for really breaking down the issues to the root. Great topics fellas keep ‘Em coming. Looking forward to a great conclusion to the 1st season. RESPECT ✊🏽

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