Fourthstream - Finding Hope

Dave Nadler
Fourthstream - Finding Hope

Fourthstream.com weekly podcasts are focused on non-religious, kingdom spirituality. Kingdom spirituality: a state of experiencing an authentic connection with God resulting in a satisfied mind. Insights into authentic spirituality: King first - then Kingdom - then church.

  1. S7E17 - A Strong Shelter Home

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    S7E17 - A Strong Shelter Home

    God IS shelter. He intervenes over and over into our lives to help us to find the way of truth and freedom of soul - and the Door to eternity. This is to be the goal and work of every parent. We live in an imperfect world and yet we are tasked with "Train up a child in the way he should go, and even when he is old he will not depart from it."  (Proverbs 22:6) There is nothing automatic about this. It is not so much a promise but a principle. If we do our heart work we give our sons and daughters all we can to find their way within their own journey. Check this out: “Hear, O Israel! The Lord is our God, the Lord is one! You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might. “These words, which I am commanding you today, shall be on your heart. You shall teach them diligently to your sons and shall talk of them when you sit in your house and when you walk by the way and when you lie down and when you rise up."                 - Deuteronomy 6:4-7 The woven biblical thread concerning family is displayed both through principle and the examples revealed in the timeless God Story. From this we derive a home base, allowing us to return again and again to the fountain of life for the benefit of those we love - through good times and bad. Consider this: "Unless the Lord builds the house, they work in vain who build it; unless the Lord guards the city, the watchman keeps awake in futility. It is vain for you to rise up early, to retire late, to eat the bread of painful labors; for He gives to His beloved even in his sleep. Behold, children are a gift of the Lord, the fruit of the womb is a reward. Like arrows in the hand of a warrior, so are the children of one’s youth. How blessed is the man whose quiver is full of them; they will not be ashamed when they speak with their enemies in the gate."  Psalm 127 Here are some of the ways we shelter those we love: √   We can give them every opportunity to know truth and honor as it is imperfectly pursued and lived out in our family's life. √   We can love each other in a way which brings security and steadfast love into the challenges of our own family story. √   We can walk beside each other and our children through the ups and downs that inevitably come as the years unfold. Parenting giving way to friendship is a gift. We can be a steady, loving force - no matter how imperfect our stories. √   We can pursue our own humility in God and faithfully live that humility out in love toward our kids and grandkids. √   We are given the great hope of interceding and praying for our kids. As they encounter their ups and downs, we can be there, taking their needs (and ours) before the throne of grace to find mercy in our times of need. √   We can be a good friend to others and model this as best we can for our own family, with the hope each one will find the shelter of selfless friendship. “May the Lord reward your work, and your wages be full from the Lord, the God of Israel, under whose wings you have come to seek refuge.”  Ruth 2:12 "He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will abide in the shadow of the Almighty. I will say to the Lord, “My refuge and my fortress, my God, in whom I trust! For it is He who delivers you from the snare of the trapper and from the deadly pestilence. He will cover you with His pinions, and under His wings you may seek refuge; His faithfulness is a shield and armor to protect us."  Psalm 91:1-4 While we live in an imperfect environment (and family) our God is Good. When we call upon the Lord on behalf of ourselves and our family we are doing the work of God. Living God, You are the Deliverer of our souls and those we love! Dave and Burnadette Interfacing With Some Strong Home Principles A Courageous Strength Song

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  2. S7E16 - Brother Anger

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    S7E16 - Brother Anger

    The story of brother anger is as old as Cain and Abel. It is a direct result of our fall in the garden of Eden and impacts us each day. Anger with our "brother" is a cancer that consumes the heart - and also displaces the freedom of soul God wishes for all His children. Jesus comments on this again and again: “But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you..."  Matthew 5:44 “But I say to you who hear, love your enemies, do good to those who hate you..."  Luke 6:27 “But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return; and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High; for He Himself is kind to ungrateful and evil men."  Luke 6:35 Jesus also comments on the roots of brother anger and how we are to manage it.        “You have heard that the ancients were told, ‘You shall not commit murder’ and ‘Whoever commits murder shall be liable to the court.’ But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, ‘You good-for-nothing,’ shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, ‘You fool,’ shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell. Therefore if you are presenting your offering at the altar, and there remember that your brother has something against you, leave your offering before the altar and go; first be reconciled to your brother, and then come and present your offering. Make friends quickly with your opponent at law while you are with him on the way, so that your opponent may not hand you over to the judge, and the judge to the officer, and you be thrown into prison. Truly I say to you, you will not come out of there until you have paid back the last cent."  Matthew 5:21-26 By directing our anger in a God way (we can't avoid becoming angry) we set ourselves free and benefit others. "Be angry and do not sin. Do not let the sun go down on your anger, and do not give the devil an opportunity."  Ephesians 4:26-27 When we sacrifice anger toward our brother upon the altar of our obedient faith, we follow in the footsteps of Jesus and cut off the work of the devil in and around our heart. "But Jesus was saying, “Father, forgive them; for they do not know what they are doing.” And they cast lots, dividing up His garments among themselves." Luke 23:34 Forgiveness is daunting but is incredibly powerful over brother anger. Dave and Burnadette More Warrior Anger Reaching Through Forgiveness

    11 мин.
  3. S7E15 - Come Near And Listen

    24.12.2024

    S7E15 - Come Near And Listen

    Talking with God has many nuances. √   It can be joyfully relational. √   It can be hard to make happen because of busyness. √   It can make me feel unsure of myself. √   It can be a process of excessive honor. √   Too often it only happens when my "me" trigger is active. Solomon teaches us some interesting things about drawing near to God.            "Guard your steps as you go to the house of God and draw near to listen rather than to offer the sacrifice of fools; for they do not know they are doing evil. Do not be hasty in word or impulsive in thought to bring up a matter in the presence of God. For God is in heaven and you are on the earth; therefore let your words be few. For the dream comes through much effort and the voice of a fool through many words."  Ecclesiastes 5:1-3           "When you make a vow to God, do not be late in paying it; for He takes no delight in fools. Pay what you vow! It is better that you should not vow than that you should vow and not pay. Do not let your speech cause you to sin and do not say in the presence of the messenger of God that it was a mistake. Why should God be angry on account of your voice and destroy the work of your hands? For in many dreams and in many words there is emptiness. Rather, fear God."  Ecclesiastes 5:4-7 We are taught that in Jesus God has come near.          “Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, a virgin will be with child and bear a son, and she will call His name Immanuel.  Isaiah 7:14           "For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; and the dominion will rest on His shoulders; and His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace."  Isaiah 9:6 So, following God for any human being is transactional. He extends His grace to all who believe he or she are spiritual beggars (Matthew 5). He gave His Son to overcome the chasm of sin. We believe and choose to honor Him with how we live our lives. His Word is given to us to help sort this out within each of our stories. The reward is to stand before Him one day and hear the words "well done." Hearing God's voice is interestingly personal and often unquantifiable, and rarely transferable. It is a personal journey. It is all about the process of connection (faith). We have His inspired word to quantify this and give it parameters and meaning. When faith expands honor for God and comfort for our souls advances into our lives "buying back" what has been lost. Wow. Listening and learning with you, Dave and Burnadette More: A Listening Heart The Garden Song

    14 мин.
  4. S7E14 - Pleasures Forever

    17.12.2024

    S7E14 - Pleasures Forever

    Do you think about heaven very often? Do you believe it is a real place? What do you imagine when you construct your image? How do you respond to the idea of living forever? King David had a unique clarity concerning forever. He believed he was going to experience forever life after this life. He understood his earthly life in conjunction with his heavenly life. They were connected. One followed the other. Here is one of the many realizations/declarations of the "sweet psalmist of Israel." Psalm 16:5-11 First, David connects the dots of his life:  The Lord is the portion of my inheritance and my cup;  You support my lot. The lines have fallen to me in pleasant places;  Indeed, my heritage is beautiful to me. David is then grateful for his connectivity with his God: I will bless the Lord who has counseled me;  Indeed, my mind instructs me in the night. I have set the Lord continually before my face;  Because He is at my right hand, I will not be shaken. He then sets his future view on life beyond this life: Therefore my heart is glad and my glory rejoices;  My flesh also will dwell securely. For You will not abandon my soul to the grave;  Nor will You allow Your Holy One to undergo decay. You will make known to me the path of life; in Your presence is fullness of joy;  In Your right hand there are pleasures forever." Forever here means never-ending. Pleasures gives the word pictures of  overlapping delight. Our pleasures mesh completely with the pleasure of God. Wow. We have just enough information about heaven for us to use in our calculus about where we are going. We love this from Revelation 22:           "Then he showed me a river of the water of life, clear as crystal, coming from the throne of God and of the Lamb. In the middle of its street on either side of the river was the tree of life, bearing twelve kinds of fruit, yielding its fruit every month; and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. There will no longer be any curse; and the throne of God and of the Lamb will be in it, and His bond-servants will serve Him; they will see His face, and His name will be on their foreheads. And there will no longer be any night; and they will not have need of the light of a lamp nor the light of the sun, because the Lord God will illumine them; and they will reign forever and ever." This is the context of the forever pleasures offered through Jesus. Selah. Heaven will revolve around the One who is, and was, and will be forever!  "...and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To Him who loves us and released us from our sins by His blood and He has made us to be a kingdom, priests to His God and Father — to Him be the glory and the dominion forever and ever. Amen. Behold He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him; and all the tribes of the earth will mourn over Him. So it is to be. Amen. “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”  - from Revelation 1 Peace upon your heart! Dave and Burnadette Psalm 16 Revelation 22

    12 мин.
  5. S7E13 - Safe Departure and Arrival

    10.12.2024

    S7E13 - Safe Departure and Arrival

    I am one of those nervous travelers. In fact, I would choose not to travel rather than embrace a self-imposed hassle with either highway or airport. I am sure there is some neurosis here, but I chiefly travel with people like Burnadette. She knows where we are going, how to get there, and steps right up when anything goes amiss. As a spiritual being I am grateful to have a known start-point and destination. Some people do not care. They love mystery. I don't mind flying by the seat of my pants, but I am pretty particular about the how, where, and the why. I need some level of surety. When I submitted my life to Jesus over 50 years ago my question of destination opened for the first time, and has been a central consideration ever since. Departure There are three significant departure (launchpoints) in our lives. The first occurs when we land in this world. We have no control over the details. The second happens if and when we come alive spiritually. This unfolds uniquely for each of us, and for many this admittedly never occurs.  Our final departure animates when we step from life into death. Once again - this day is by and large chosen for us. Inevitable. Mostly out of our control. Process While life has much reward it also holds inevitable pain. I wrote a book entitled "The Turbulence of Imperfection." Why is there so much pain in the world? Why don't things always work out? Why are some people's lives more smooth or successful than others? Why do bad things happen to good people? Life processes are ultimately in the hand of the Lord God. Each of our lives is a special recipe - one of a kind. We invest our time and resources in what seems best to us. Through process we have the opportunity to grow in faith, hope, and love. And each of these may be carried with us into the life to come, unlike the possessions we accumulate during our journey. Lots of unknowns. Process amplifies values, and our minds and hearts are given a chance to unlock our souls. Destination Inasmuch as our crossing over is inevitable (unless you know something we don't) there is much unknown apart from what is revealed in God's Story. This assumes, of course, that God is real and that He has spoken. Here is what we do know from the God Story: √   We will all enter from life into death. √   We will appear before the Judgment seat of our Creator and His Son. √   We will be rewarded based upon deeds of righteousness accomplished in God. √   Jesus is making all things new. All things! "He has told you, O man, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you but to do justice, to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?"  Micah 6:8 "But when the religious leaders heard that Jesus had silenced the other prominent religious sect, they gathered themselves together. One of them, a lawyer, asked Him a question, testing Him in order to trap Him, 'Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?' And He said to him, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.  This is the great and foremost commandment. The second is like it, ‘You shall love your neighbor as you love yourself.’ On these two commandments hang the whole Law and the Prophets.”  Matthew 22:34-40 How we begin, travel, and arrive are all significant. And despite our frailties and failures, it is God who brings us safely home. "So then it does not depend on the man who wills or the man who runs, but on God who has mercy."  Romans 9:16 The mercy of faith brings us safely home! We are with you, Dave and Burnadette On Earth As In Heaven Heaven

    11 мин.
  6. S7E12 - Lamb Song

    03.12.2024

    S7E12 - Lamb Song

    Perhaps the most central thread of the God Story is the one concerning God's Lamb. In Genesis 1-11 we find out about our human roots. In Genesis 12 God creates a new nation through Abraham. Through this new nation He would testify of His great Name and bring deliverance to all nations. When He called His people out of Egypt and through the Red Sea, the first identity requirement He gave was the sacrifice of a spotless lamb for each household. The blood was smeared upon the doorposts of their homes in Egypt and the Angel of Lord "passed over" the households of His people. We read about this in Exodus 12. "Now you shall eat it in this manner: ready to travel, your sandals on your feet, and your staff in your hand; and you shall eat it in haste — it is the Lord's Passover. For I will go through the land of Egypt on that night, and will strike down all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgments — I am the Lord. The blood shall be a sign for you on the houses where you live; and when I see the blood I will pass over you, and no plague will befall you to destroy you when I strike the land of Egypt." And this is exactly what happened. The sacrifices of the sons of Israel (Exodus, Leviticus, and Numbers and then through the time of Jesus) all extended or mirrored the passover lamb. This is why John the Baptist called out in John 1: "Behold, the Lamb of God, Who takes away the sin of the world."  His disciples began to follow Jesus, because John had prepared the way. It is interesting that Jesus (God's Lamb) was not more distinguishably apparent to the Jewish leaders. He is explained in their entire Law and prophets. (see Isaiah 53, for example). "Surely our griefs He Himself bore, and our sorrows He carried; yet we ourselves esteemed Him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But He was pierced through for our transgressions, and He was crushed for our iniquities; and the chastening for our well-being fell upon Him, and by His scourging we are healed. All of us like sheep have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way; but the Lord has caused the iniquity of us all to fall on Him." Wow. The disciples were processing some pretty amazing things. What did His words mean? Were they not going to reign with Him - soon!? What were these troublesome indicators He kept bring up in conversation? How did He know the things He knew? What kind of plan was He following? On the first day of Unleavened Bread, when the Passover lamb was being sacrificed, His disciples said to Him, “Where do You want us to go and prepare for You to eat the Passover?” And He sent two of His disciples and said to them, “Go into the city, and a man will meet you carrying a pitcher of water; follow him; and wherever he enters, say to the owner of the house, ‘The Teacher says, “Where is My guest room in which I may eat the Passover with My disciples? And he himself will show you a large upper room furnished and ready; prepare for us there.” The disciples went out and came to the city, and found it just as He had told them; and they prepared the Passover."  (Mark 14:12-16) The full account of this dinner is given in John 13-17, one of the most intimate God-moments of the entire God Story. There is much in this thread but let's complete this conversation with: "And they sang the song of Moses, the bond-servant of God, AND the song of the Lamb, saying, "Great and marvelous are Your works O Lord God, the Almighty; righteous and true are Your ways, King of the nations!"   Revelation 15:3  One song - really?! One message? "Behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world." There are not two testaments: only one. It is the testimony of the Living God, whether we are speaking of Israel (God's chosen people) or the gathering of the nations, or the Church. King first - then Kingdom - then Church! When did Jesus die for the sins of the world? When you get a chance check out "foundation of the world." Amazing! So: √   The Lamb's blood was the plan all along. √   Everything in the God Story revolves around blood and redemption (Genesis 9:5). √   Jesus is God's Lamb. He died for the sins of the world. √   The promises of Moses and the prophets are each fulfilled in Jesus the Nazarene. Where do you stand?  "There was the true Light which, coming into the world, enlightens every man. He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. He came to His own, and those who were His own did not receive Him. But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name, who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God."  John 1:9-13 He who has ears to hear - let him hear! Dave and Burnadette Here are 16 conversations about the Lamb of God. The God Story in 8 Minutes

    14 мин.
  7. S7E11 - It Is Humbling When...

    26.11.2024

    S7E11 - It Is Humbling When...

    If humility is the key to the Door of the Kingdom (and we think it is) then a few things must be considered. Jesus is clear that He is the Door to His Father and His Kingdom. The keys to the Kingdom were given to the right person. This has nothing to with church authority and everything to do with Peter's magnificent followthrough in his imperfect faith. Peter promised never-ending allegiance to Jesus. Then Jesus said to them, “You will all fall away because of Me this night, for it is written, 'I will strike down the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock will be scattered.' But after I have been raised, I will go ahead of you to Galilee.” But Peter said to Him, “Even though all may fall away because of You, I will never fall away.” Jesus said to him, “Truly I say to you that this very night, before a rooster crows, you will deny Me three times.” Peter said to Him, “Even if I have to die with You, I will not deny You.”  (Matthew 26:31-35) All the disciples said the same as well. Peter then betrayed Jesus (after taking the slave Malchus' ear with his sword). (John 18:26) When he was around the fire. (Luke 22:57) When he did not take the coward's way out like Judas and faced his failure. (John 21) When he continued to be taught after Jesus had ascended (Galatians 2:11-14) This was a key backdrop to what Jesus was teaching His disciples throughout the Gospels about forgiveness. √   You have to admit you were wrong. √   You must be gracious when others have been wrong. √   When you have been falsely accused. √   When your friends dump and shun you. √   When you must choose the forgiveness of Jesus. √   When you must live not returning insult for insult. √   When you must pray for your enemies. √   When you must bless those who curse you. √   When you choose not to take into account a wrong suffered. After all (wedding repetition here) - think about each one and the humbling nature of each: Love is patient Love is kind and is not jealous Love does not brag and is not arrogant Love does not act improperly Love does not demand what is best for me Love is not provoked Love does not take into account a wrong suffered Love does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth Love bears all things Love believes all things Love hopes all things Love endures all things Love never fails. This is the core of the teaching about humility - and spiritual success! Dave and Burnadette Review: Blessed Are the Misfits

    10 мин.
  8. S7E10 - I Bow My Knees

    19.11.2024

    S7E10 - I Bow My Knees

    So Jesus said to them again, “Truly, truly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep. All who came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them. I am the door; if anyone enters through Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture. The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I came that they may have life, and have it abundantly."  John 10:7-9 Jesus spends much time explaining His Kingdom. He is the Door of the Kingdom, of course, but we enter through this Door through the reality of humility. Let's take a look at part of this woven thread! When Jesus spoke His "sermon on the mountain" (which we are sure He spoke many times) He outlined what it meant to be connected with God. Matthew 5 expresses: Verse 3   How we own the Kingdom of heaven Verse 4   How we find comfort for our mourning Verse 5   What will cause us to inherit the earth Verse 6   What will bring us satisfaction Verse 7   How we receive mercy for our condition Verse 8   How we may see God Verse 9   How we can be called the sons of God Verse 10 The reward of being persecuted Verse 11,12  Our continuation in the lie of those who live for God Verse 13  How our lives become salt Verse 14  How we become lights in this dark world  This is the flow of His amazing declarative remarks. But let's return to verses 3 and 4 to understand His context. Each of these 14 verses has their core in His opening: "Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven. Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted." Each flows from the roots of these first words. Let's take a closer look. While being poor in spirit can certainly include lacking the opulence of others, it appears that Jesus is going deeper. The words poor in spirit could easily be translated "those who know we are beggars in spirit." Spiritual beggars. He is describing our common human condition of having nothing apart from God. When viewed properly this is very humbling. It lines up with the thread of humility found from Genesis 1 through Revelation 22. It provides the core of finding a purified heart (v 8). If we know we are spiritual beggars it will cause us to mourn our condition (blessed are those who mourn). Of course God cares about our losses and pains, but Jesus is specifically addressing the very humbling reality that we have no good in and of ourselves. When we are transparent before God and men and angels, we open the Door to humility, and consequently, to spiritual living. (verses 5-13). Does this make sense? It fits with every teaching and encounter Jesus had with the oppressed or the oppressors. Can you see how huge this is to spiritual living? Solomon previewed it. "When pride comes, then comes dishonor, but with the humble is wisdom." (Proverbs 11:2) James nailed it. "Humble yourselves in the presence of the Lord, and He will exalt you." (James 4) Paul fully articulated it. "Therefore I ask you not to lose heart at my tribulations on your behalf, for they are your glory. For this reason I bow my knees before the Father, from whom every family in heaven and on earth derives its name, that He would grant you, according to the riches of His glory, to be strengthened with power through His Spirit in the inner man,  so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith; and that you, being rooted and grounded in love, may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the breadth and length and height and depth, and to know the love of Christ which surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled up to all the fullness of God."  (Ephesians 3:13-19) And Peter amplifies it. "You younger men, likewise, be subject to your elders; and all of you, clothe yourselves with humility toward one another, for God is opposed to the proud but gives grace to the humble...Therefore humble yourselves under the mighty hand of God, that He may exalt you at the proper time..." (1 Peter 5) Living in and with personal humility is the key to going in and out of the Door. This is why we have Psalm 23. He is our good Shepherd, and if we submit to His shepherding we are blessed and our spiritual footprint multiplies. Bending with you, Dave and Burnadette Fall On Your Knees

    13 мин.

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