The Money Sessions

Tiffany McLain

Deep, thoughtful, raw conversations with real therapists who are in the midst of leaning into raising fees and making bank – all while working with the clients they are passionate about serving.

  1. This Can’t Be My Life: Natasha Deen on Raising Her Fee & Reclaiming Her Future.

    HACE 13 H

    This Can’t Be My Life: Natasha Deen on Raising Her Fee & Reclaiming Her Future.

    Ready to set your fee? You choose the dream, we'll do the math. Download our FREE Fun with Fees Calculator here 👉🏽 https://www.leaninmakebank.com/free   In this episode, we’re speaking with Natasha Deen—a DC-area therapist specialized in working with Muslim daughters of immigrants—who went from “okay enough” to powerful, unapologetic fee ownership.  Natasha joined LIMB thinking she might raise her fee.  Instead, she transformed her mindset, boundaries, and belief in what’s possible—for her clients, her practice, and her life. Natasha’s story is a masterclass in rejecting the slow death of small dreams.   In this episode, Natasha shares: Why charging $170/session still left her dreaming of a life she couldn’t reach; The wake-up call that came during Fee Week—and the boundary audit that followed; How her father's stroke redefined what really matters; Why she stopped waiting for a partner, a raise, or "someday" to live the life she wanted; The ripple effect raising her fee had on her practice, personal life, and vision for the future.   Resources mentioned: LIMB Academy FWF Calculator Natasha’s Website   More about Natasha: Natasha is a Licensed Clinical Professional Counselor in Maryland and Virginia. She specializes in helping Muslim daughters of immigrants balance self-care and family care and work through feelings of overwhelm and guilt. Through trauma-informed care and faith-based counseling, she helps them heal their mind, body, heart, and soul, so they can connect with themselves and their families in a deeper, more meaningful way.

    1 h y 3 min
  2. Insurance Isn’t Saving You Anymore—Now What?

    8 SEP

    Insurance Isn’t Saving You Anymore—Now What?

    Ready to set your fee? You choose the dream, we'll do the math. Download our FREE Fun with Fees Calculator 👉🏽 https://www.leaninmakebank.com/free Five years ago, insurance filled your caseload. It wasn’t ideal—but it worked. You weren’t thriving, but you were surviving. You told yourself: “One day I’ll do something different.” That day is here. And the game has changed. In this urgent episode, Tiffany breaks down why the therapist insurance hustle is collapsing—and what you must do now if you want to protect your time, your income, and your well-being. In this episode, Tiffany reveals: Why your caseload isn’t refilling like it used to—even if you’re on every panel; How tech conglomerates are taking over insurance-based referrals and squeezing out solo providers; The truth about reimbursement rate cuts (some slashed by 40%)—and what it means for your future; The illusion of “stability” insurance used to offer—and why it was always a trap; What it really takes to build a practice rooted in freedom, sustainability, and clinical excellence. This is not a drill. The insurance model is crumbling. You can keep trying to survive inside it—or you can make a different choice. Email Tiffany at tiffany@leaninmakebank.com with the subject line: “Emancipate.” She’ll send you your first step toward stepping out of the system that was never built for you. You don’t have to do it alone. You just have to decide you’re not staying stuck.

    17 min
  3. $1.5 Million in Insurance Clawbacks: Dr. Anna DiNoto ’s Story

    1 SEP

    $1.5 Million in Insurance Clawbacks: Dr. Anna DiNoto ’s Story

    Ready to set your fee? You choose the dream, we'll do the math. Download our FREE Fun with Fees Calculator here 👉🏽 https://www.leaninmakebank.com/free   In this episode, we’re speaking with Dr. Anna Dinoto, a neurodivergent psychologist with a decades-long career spanning clinical, forensic, and neurodiverse care—and the courage to break free from outdated industry models. Anna built a group practice in the early days of ABA therapy, only to realize she was carrying a broken business model that didn’t serve her, her team, or her values.  This episode is a thoughtful, unflinching look at growth, rupture, and repair—and you absolutely won’t want to miss it.    In this episode, Anna shares: The early industry dynamics that pushed her into group practice (and why it worked… until it didn’t); How she navigated ethical tensions and staff resentment in a bloated insurance-dependent business; What she learned from managing employee expectations about money and power; Why she walked away—and how her new model reflects her values; The difference between real clinical mastery and martyrdom in leadership.   Resources mentioned: LIMB Academy FWF Calculator Anna’s Website   More about Anna: Dr. Anna DiNoto is a neurodivergent psychologist with a playful twist! As the owner of Sandbox Therapy Group in Monroe, Washington, she brings over 20 years of expertise in neurodiversity, specializing in evaluations for complex clinical cases with a focus on neurodiverse patients. When she's not creatively collaborating with clients, you can find her running around with her two kids, hitting the gym (or pavement - she LOVES to run!), jamming to new tunes on Spotify, and volunteering in her community.

    46 min
  4. No More Fun Money: Debbie Nichols on Getting Off Insurance, Reclaiming Her Health & Owning Her Worth.

    18 AGO

    No More Fun Money: Debbie Nichols on Getting Off Insurance, Reclaiming Her Health & Owning Her Worth.

    Ready to set your fee? You choose the dream, we'll do the math. Download our FREE Fun with Fees Calculator here 👉🏽 https://www.leaninmakebank.com/free   In this episode, we’re speaking with Debbie Nichols, a veteran therapist and mom who finally got honest about the limitations of her “fun money” practice.  After years of using insurance to avoid marketing, and pushing through chronic health issues, Debbie realized something had to give—and it wasn’t going to be her well-being. Her story is a must-listen for therapists who’ve been told their work is optional, their income is supplemental, or their time doesn’t matter.   In this episode, Debbie shares: Why she thought starting an online course was the solution to a broken practice (it wasn’t); The identity shift she had to make to go from “my husband is the provider” to claiming her own power as a breadwinner; How living with a rare blood cancer helped her stop tolerating a life that didn’t work; Why her clinical skill skyrocketed after raising fees and getting off panels; What it meant to finally become the therapist—and mother—she knew she could be. Resources mentioned: LIMB Academy FWF Calculator Debbie’s Website Debbie’s Instagram   More about Debbie: Deborah Nichols is a Licensed Professional Counselor serving clients virtually in Oregon and California.  She specializes in perinatal mental health with a sweet spot for anxious mamas.  She is working to rebel against the societal norm of “mom guilt”,  supporting mothers in parenting from a place of truth rather than fear while embracing the beautiful mess of raising young children.

    52 min
  5. The $300 Breakthrough: How Vicky Truong Raised Her Fee Without Selling Out Her Culture.

    4 AGO

    The $300 Breakthrough: How Vicky Truong Raised Her Fee Without Selling Out Her Culture.

    Ready to set your fee? You choose the dream, we'll do the math. Download our FREE Fun with Fees Calculator here 👉🏽 https://www.leaninmakebank.com/free   In this episode, we’re speaking with Vicky Truong, a trauma and couples therapist who now charges $300/session and specializes in adult children of immigrants.  From full-time legal work to burnout in a group practice to thriving in her own premium-fee private practice—Vicky’s story will challenge everything you think you know about what's possible in this field. If you’ve ever believed your ideal clients “can’t afford” therapy—or worried about being a good enough therapist to charge premium rates—Vicky is about to flip the script.   In this episode, Vicky shares:   What it looked like to work full-time in the legal field while getting her PhD and pre-licensed therapy hours on nights and weekends; Why charging $70/session on Open Path almost wrecked her health and clinical confidence; The moment she realized she was jealous of her clients—and how that became a wake-up call; Her tender truth about being too tired to show up for her daughter—and the dream that pushed her to change it all; How she raised her rates to $300/session—and booked two clients at that rate in a single day. Resources mentioned:   LIMB Academy FWF Calculator Vicky's Website Vicky's Instagram   More about Vicky:  Vicky Truong, LMFT, Ph.D., (she/her) is a certified EMDR and couples therapist for children of immigrants. She helps individuals and couples transform painful patterns into deeper connection and emotional safety and create sustainable change. Her private practice is in the heart of Tustin, CA.  With a background in the legal sector, she also helps clients communicate and advocate for themselves more powerfully in the legal system.   Learn more at www.vickytruongtherapy.com.

    42 min
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Deep, thoughtful, raw conversations with real therapists who are in the midst of leaning into raising fees and making bank – all while working with the clients they are passionate about serving.

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