Are you a funder who loves philanthropy, but you want to be more effective by building the performance, impact, & sustainability of grantees? Are you a nonprofit leader who loves our sector, but you’re frustrated with the dearth of support & the unhealthy workplaces? The 12 million people of America's nonprofit workforce are powerful, skilled, & enduring. They are the first responders & last bulwarks of civic life. Yet too often they're not treated with respect by funders, government, & their own orgs. The podcast examines the need for & value of investing in the nonprofit workforce.
The Power of the Nonprofit Workforce with Dr. Lester Salamon
Too often in our sector, nonprofit leaders are discussed as if we are walking, talking deficits -- empty vessels needing to be filled with competencies, skills, and knowledge. The truth is that the nonprofit workforce is one of the greatest assets available to our organizations, our funders, and our society! Despite all the challenges we face, nonprofit people are powerful, skilled, visionary, determined, and enduring. Our workforce is a significant part of our economy and our society. During Season One of this show, we want to acknowledge and celebrate the human strength in our sector as a baseline for discussing our challenges and the solutions to these challenges. So in this episode, we talk with one of the premier scholars on nonprofit employment and economics: Dr. Lester Salamon, Director of Johns Hopkins University’s Center for Civil Society Studies. Professor Salamon shares how he came to this unique research focus, and discusses the latest research on the strength and stability of nonprofit work, as well as initial estimates about the impact of the pandemic recession on nonprofit employment.
Listen in to hear more from Professor Salamon on:
His journey to becoming a scholar in the nonprofit sector, the evolution of 40 years of study
The key findings from the latest report out of Johns Hopkins on the overall strength and stability of nonprofit work
Initial estimates about the impact of the pandemic recession on nonprofit employment
Data that supports nonprofits as a major contributor to employment in America, and to the quality of life in America.
2020 Nonprofit Employment Report: The 3rd Largest Employer Faces the COVID-19 Crisis
Dr. Lester Salamon Bio
Johns Hopkins Center for Civil Society Studies
Nonprofit Economic Data (“NED”) Project
All Publications from NED Project (includes both national and state-focused reports)
Nonprofit Works (an interactive database on nonprofit employment and wages)
Racial & Generational Barriers in Nonprofit Careers, Frances Kunreuther and Sean Thomas-Breitfeld
This season, our podcast is exploring the state of the nonprofit workforce, and the chronic and current challenges it faces. In Episode 3, Rusty sits down with Frances Kunreuther and Sean Thomas-Breitfeld, two of the most brilliant thinkers in the field, to discuss their research on the racial and inter-generational barriers facing nonprofit leaders.
Listen in to hear more about:
Frances Kunreuther and Sean Thomas-Breitfeld
Building Movement Project
messages and findings of Race to Lead Revisited report
the need for healthy generational change and transitions in nonprofit
how generational change and racial equity (along with gender, sexuality, class, etc.) interact in the nonprofit workforce
how investments can and should help organizations to address them together
Building Movement Project website
Race to Lead website
Race to Lead Revisited report
Race to Lead Report on Executive Directors (based on 2016 data)
Structuring Leadership Report (on alternative models)
The Leadership in Leaving report
Investing in Nonprofit Staff as an Equity Strategy, Kathy Reich Interview
In this episode, Rusty talks with Kathy Reich, who works at the Ford Foundation, and previously worked at the David and Lucile Packard Foundation. They discuss how, in each foundation, Kathy discovered the need to provide support to the staff of grantee organizations.
Listen in to hear more about:
Kathy’s journey in philanthropy and the non-profit workforce
What changed Kathy’s practices as a funder
Lessons learned with the David and Lucile Packard Foundation and impact on talent investing initiatives
The Values of Listening Deeply and more
Building trust and building relationships around the world with Ford Foundation and the BUILD program
Community Leadership Project
Moving the Ford Foundation Forward - Blog By Darren Walker
Organizational Assessment Tool
Kathy Reich leads the Ford Foundation’s BUILD initiative, a 6-year, $1 billion effort to strengthen key social justice institutions around the world. BUILD is an essential part of the foundation’s strategy to reduce inequality, a strategy arising from the conviction that healthy civil society organizations are essential to driving and sustaining just, inclusive societies.
Before joining Ford in 2016, Kathy was director of organizational effectiveness and philanthropy at the David and Lucile Packard Foundation, where she led a cross-cutting program to help grantees around the world strengthen their strategy, leadership and impact. Previously she had served at the Packard Foundation as policy analyst and program officer. Prior to that, she was policy director at the Social Policy Action Network, served as a legislative assistant on Capitol Hill, and worked for state and local elected officials in California.
Kathy currently chairs the board of Grantmakers for Effective Organizations (GEO). She was selected as a Schusterman Fellow in 2016.
Treating Leaders Like Batteries, Vu Le Interview
Vu Le is a writer, speaker, vegan, Pisces, and the former Executive Director of RVC, a nonprofit in Seattle that promotes social justice by developing leaders of color, strengthening organizations led by communities of color, and fostering collaboration between diverse communities.
Vu’s passion to make the world better, combined with a low score on the Law School Admission Test, drove him into the field of nonprofit work, where he learned that we should take the work seriously, but not ourselves. There’s tons of humor in the nonprofit world, and someone needs to document it. He is going to do that, with the hope that one day, a TV producer will see how cool and interesting our field is and make a show about nonprofit work, featuring attractive actors attending strategic planning meetings and filing 990 tax forms.
Known for his no-BS approach, irreverent sense of humor, and love of unicorns, Vu has been featured in dozens, if not hundreds, of his own blog posts at NonprofitAF.com, formerly nonprofitwithballs.com.
About Vu Le
Vu’s journey/take on investing in emerging leaders in the non-profit sector
The deficit of Leaders (Investment in them) - What does it look like?
How the pandemic is impacting leaders in the nonprofit sector
Responsive Philanthropy versus Strategic Philanthropy
Mutli-Year General Operating Dollars - (“M.Y.G.O.D.”)
Where to find Vu
Links Mentioned During the Show:
Community Centric Fundraising
Vu’s Blog, Nonprofit AF
#crappyfundingpractices and #awesomefundingpractices
Backstory of Fund the People (Org & Podcast)
Do you love nonprofit work, but find yourself frustrated by the starvation cycle, the overhead myth, the racial and economic inequity, and the toxic burnout culture that dampens our effectiveness? Do you want to see change, but you’re now sure how to address these harmful outdated mental models and practices? Or what to replace them with?
Then this is the podcast for you. Every episode, I sit down with fascinating thought-leaders from across our sector to gather stories, research, and practical resources that you can use to ensure that nonprofit people are at the center of performance, impact, and sustainability in your organization or the organizations that you support.
Introduction to Fund the People Podcast and Who this Podcast is for
About Fund the People (The Organization) and Rusty Stahl (Founder, President & CEO)
The conversation that directly influenced Rusty’s work in the non-profit work supporting people working inside foundations and in the nonprofit sector
Research and Development and major support networks that went into creating Fund the People as an organization
Features, Milestones and important people who’ve supported Fund the People
Opportunities for working together and learning more
Indiana University’s Lilly Family School of Philanthropy
Emerging Practitioners in Philanthropy
Fund the People Toolkit
Fund the People’s Talent Justice Initiative
Customer ReviewsSee All
Much needed conversations
Love this podcast and the thoughtful host and speaker line up. A must listen for all nonprofit leaders!
Finally—a podcast for the (nonprofit) people!
As someone who has worked in and with nonprofits for two decades, it’s been a long time coming: a podcast that articulates clearly and succinctly exactly what has been swirling around in my mind, unspoken for years—then moves the conversation forward. I love the idea of frank dialogue between forward-facing funders and those on the ground doing the work, and I’m looking forward to new episodes!