Going from Swift to Kotlin with Skip

In a slightly unconventional episode, Sebastian and Márton talk to the founders of Skip, an iOS-to-Android, Swift-to-Kotlin transpiler solution. Marc and Abe have a background working on both Apple platforms and the JVM, and their latest project is a bridge across these two ecosystems.

• Skip
• Skip.tools on GitHub
• Contributing to SkipUI webinar
• kdoctor

Hosts:

• Sebastian Aigner
  • Website
  • Bluesky
• Márton Braun
  • Website
  • Bluesky

Guests:

• Abe White
  • Twitter
  • Mastodon
• Marc Prud'hommeaux
  • GitHub

(0:00) Weather
(2:02) Introductions
(3:10) ⁠Elevator pitch⁠ 
(3:45) The initial idea
(6:14) Pivot around the server-side
(8:35) Skip(.tools)
(8:56) The target audience
(9:58) What about Android devs?
(12:11) The current state
(14:57) Pricing and components
(16:43) ⁠Contributing to SkipUI⁠ 
(18:55) Reimplementing everything
(23:07) ⁠The Skip stack⁠ 
(26:17) Wrapping JVM types
(28:27) Writing Kotlin in Swift?!
(29:56) Tooling support
(32:02) There’s a Gradle project!
(34:39) iOS API coverage
(38:24) Platform differences
(40:10) Data storage
(44:31) Building on JVM libraries
(46:42) JSON problems
(48:00) Testing the Skip stack
(51:42) SwiftUI to Compose
(58:21) IDE experiences
(1:03:35) Conclusion