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For a long time, tech culture has focused too narrowly on technical skills; this has resulted in a tech community that too often puts companies and code over people. Greater Than Code is a podcast that invites the voices of people who are not heard from enough in tech: women, people of color, trans and/or queer folks, to talk about the human side of software development and technology. Greater Than Code is providing a vital platform for these conversations, and developing new ideas of what it means to be a technologist beyond just the code.
Featuring an ongoing panel of racially and gender diverse tech panelists, the majority of podcast guests so far have been women in tech! We’ve covered topics including imposter syndrome, mental illness, sexuality, unconscious bias and social justice. We also have a major focus on skill sets that tech too often devalues, like team-building, hiring, community organizing, mentorship and empathy. Each episode also includes a transcript.
We have an active Slack community that members can join by pledging as little as $1 per month via Patreon. (https://www.patreon.com/greaterthancode)

Greater Than Cod‪e‬ Mandy Moore

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For a long time, tech culture has focused too narrowly on technical skills; this has resulted in a tech community that too often puts companies and code over people. Greater Than Code is a podcast that invites the voices of people who are not heard from enough in tech: women, people of color, trans and/or queer folks, to talk about the human side of software development and technology. Greater Than Code is providing a vital platform for these conversations, and developing new ideas of what it means to be a technologist beyond just the code.
Featuring an ongoing panel of racially and gender diverse tech panelists, the majority of podcast guests so far have been women in tech! We’ve covered topics including imposter syndrome, mental illness, sexuality, unconscious bias and social justice. We also have a major focus on skill sets that tech too often devalues, like team-building, hiring, community organizing, mentorship and empathy. Each episode also includes a transcript.
We have an active Slack community that members can join by pledging as little as $1 per month via Patreon. (https://www.patreon.com/greaterthancode)

    224: Better Allies with Karen Catlin

    224: Better Allies with Karen Catlin

    02:31 - Karen’s Superpower: The Ability to Simplify Things



    Simplifying in a Team Context


    05:55 - Better Allies – Everyday Actions to Create Inclusive, Engaging Workplaces; Triaging and Curating Research



    @BetterAllies
    Better Allies: Everyday Actions to Create Inclusive, Engaging Workplaces (Book)
    The Better Allies™ Approach to Hiring (Book)
    Present! A Techie's Guide to Public Speaking (Book)


    14:15 - Maintaining Anonyminity (at first); Prove It Again Bias



    Channeling White Men; Men Listening to Other Men
    Whistling Vivaldi: How Stereotypes Affect Us and What We Can Do (Book)
    [Podcast] 'Whistling Vivaldi' And Beating Stereotypes
    Reduce the influence of unconscious bias with these re:Work tools
    Build the Culture Instead of Fit the Culture


    26:09 - Culture Add + Values Fit



    Recognizing Bias Instead of Removing It
    Meritocracy


    32:11 - Network Effect: Venturing Beyond Homogenous Networks



    Marginalization + Privilege Can Be Self-Reinforcing
    50 Potential Privileges in the Workplace


    41:58 - Doing This Work is Everyone’s Job


    48:12 - People to Follow



    Minda Harts


    The Memo: What Women of Color Need to Know to Secure a Seat at the Table

    Jeannie Gainsburg


    The Savvy Ally: A Guide for Becoming a Skilled LGBTQ+ Advocate

    David Smith & Brad Johnston


    Good Guys: How Men Can Be Better Allies for Women in the Workplace

    Corey Ponder


    Learning the ABCs of Allyship



    51:13 - The Decline of Gender Parity in the Tech Industry



    Women in Tech -- The Missing Force: Karen Catlin at TEDxCollegeofWilliam&Mary


    58:15 - Making Statements and Changing the Status Quo


    Reflections:


    Rein: Getting better at praxis: for every white dude with a beard you follow on Twitter, go follow 10 Black women in tech.


    Damien: How bias can interfere with an action right before the action happens.


    Chanté: We’re all allies. We cannot do this work alone. Today you might be the ally, tomorrow you may be the bridge.


    Arty: Expanding our homogenous networks. Change takes courage on all of our parts.


    Karen: Turning period statements into questions or adding “until now” to those statements.


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    REIN: Welcome to Episode 224 of Greater Than Code. Take two.


    So full disclosure, we recorded this or more specifically, didn't record this conversation so we're going to do it again.


    I'm your co-host, Rein Hendricks, and I'm here with my co-host, Damien Burke.


    DAMIEN: Thanks, Rein. And I'm here with my co-host, Chanté Thurmond.


    CHANTÉ: Everyone, Chanté here. And I'm here with Arty Starr.


    ARTY: Thank you, Chanté. And I'm here with our awesome guest

    • 1 hr 9 min
    223: Emotions, Achievement, Joy, and Goals with David MacIver

    223: Emotions, Achievement, Joy, and Goals with David MacIver

    02:15 - David’s Superpower: Being Confused



    Norms of Excellence
    The Inner Game of Tennis: The Classic Guide to the Mental Side of Peak Performance


    11:56 - Daily Writing



    David’s Newsletter: Overthinking Everything
    Unfuck Your Habitat


    15:47 - Learning to Be Better at Emotions


    23:22 - Achievement and Joy as Aspirational Goals



    [Homeostasis vs Homeorhesis](https://wikidiff.com/homeostasis/homeorhesis#:~:text=is%20that%20homeostasis%20is%20(physiology,to%20a%20trajectory%2C%20as%20opposed)
    Aspiration: The Agency of Becoming by Agnes Callard
    Seeing like a State: How Certain Schemes to Improve the Human Condition Have Failed by James C. Scott
    Philosophical Investigations by Ludwig Wittgenstein


    Reflections:


    Jessica: Trying not knowing yourself.


    Rein: You shouldn’t be the owner of all your desires. Instead, you should measure your life by how well you follow the intentions that arise out of your values.


    Jacob: Thinking of yourself as the sum of all of the habits you maintain or don’t.


    David: The [Homeostasis vs Homeorhesis](https://wikidiff.com/homeostasis/homeorhesis#:~:text=is%20that%20homeostasis%20is%20(physiology,to%20a%20trajectory%2C%20as%20opposed) distinction, and cleaning a home as an ongoing process.


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    JACOB: Hello and welcome to Greater Than Code, Episode 223. My name is Jacob Stoebel and I'm joined with my co-host, Rein Henrichs.


    REIN: Thanks, Jacob and I'm here with my friend and also stranger because we haven't done this together in months, Jessica Kerr.


    JESSICA: Thank you, Rein! And Iím really excited today because our guest is David MacIver. Twitter handle, @DRMacIver.


    David MacIver is best known as the developer of Hypothesis, the property-based testing library for Python, and is currently doing a Ph.D. based on some of that work. But he also writes extensively about emotions, life, and society and sometimes coaches people on an eclectic mix of software development, intellectual, and emotional skills. As you can probably tell, David hasn't entirely decided what he wants to do when he grows u and that's the best because if you had decided well, then so few possibilities would be open.


    David, hello!


    DAVID: Hi, Jessica! Great to be here.


    JESSICA: All right. I'm going to ask the obligatory question. What is your superpower and how did you acquire it?


    DAVID: So as you saw me complaining about on Twitter, this question doesn't translate very well outside of the United States.


    JESSICA: Yeah, which is fascinating for me.


    DAVID: I'm a bit too British to say nice things about myself without soun

    • 45 min
    222: Evaluating Human Performance with Elyse Robinson

    222: Evaluating Human Performance with Elyse Robinson

    02:05 - Elyse’s Superpower: Fearlessness



    Moving to Mexico
    Living in Mexico
    Dual-Existing and Codeswitching
    Elyse’s Podcast & Blog
    A Day In The Life


    19:41 - Auditor => IT Consultant



    Lissa Explains it All
    Discovering The Cloud


    24:02 - Broken Interview Processes and Evaluating Human Performance


    Reflections:


    Damien: The ways that I can be fearless.


    Arty: You only have one life. Don’t put limits on it.


    Rein: Being intentional about making our networks more inclusive.


    Elyse: There isn’t a pipeline problem in IT.


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    ARTY: Hi, everyone! Welcome to Episode 222 of Greater Than Code. Iím Artemis Starr and Iím here with my fabulous co-host, Rein Henrichs.


    REIN: Thanks, Arty. Iím here with my co-host, Damien Burke.


    DAMIEN: Thanks, Rein and Iím here with our guest, Elyse Robinson.


    Elyse Robinson has been described as fearless. After losing her mother to blood cancer, she left America to mourn her mother in Mexico and decided to stay. Going into her 5th year of residing in Mexico, she is the Founder of NewsIn.IT and runs a blog, podcast, and a YouTube channel about her life in Mexico under ElyseRobinson.com.


    Before becoming the fearless person Elyse is now, she was an auditor that kept the public safe and before COVID hit, an IT consultant in Mexico helping people understand the intricacies of the cloud.


    You can find Elyse splitting her time between America and Mexico when she gets tired of tacos and Spanish, or Chick-Fil-A and English.†


    Welcome to the show, Elyse.


    ELYSE: Thank you.


    DAMIEN: So you know the first thing we do on this show is ask every one of our guests the same question. So for you, Elyse, what is your superpower and how did you acquire it?


    ELYSE: Fearlessness! Not many people would leave everything they know to go move to another country and then stay for almost 5 years. [chuckles] I tell people that closed mouths donít get fed. You have to put yourself out there for opportunities or else, theyíll just pass you by so I donít have an issue doing that.


    Moving to a whole another country, not knowing anyone. Wanting to mourn, not knowing the language and not knowing the culture. Oh, that'll make you fearless all the way around. [laughs]


    DAMIEN: Or the opposite. It could have had the exact opposite effect.


    ELYSE: That's true. That's true. Because I know many people that have moved to another country and then they came right back and so. [chuckles]


    REIN: What do you think made the difference for you in terms of staying versus leaving?


    ELYSE: Everything just fell into place. I tell people all th

    • 50 min
    221: Cultivating Strength and Change with Wesley Faulkner

    221: Cultivating Strength and Change with Wesley Faulkner

    01:59 - Wesley’s Superpower: Connecting With People and Being a Social Chameleon


    11:31 - Sharing Responsibility Based on Strengths; Delegating “Weakness”



    Strengths Finder 2.0
    Positions vs Roles


    23:52 - Mission Statements Are Bullsh*t (especially for marginalized people/groups)



    False Value Systems
    Veni Kunche: Diversify Tech


    Greater Than Code Episode 212: Diversify Tech with Veni Kunche



    “The real barrier is individuals who don’t want to lose power.”


    32:16 - Talking Truth to Power: Enacting Change



    Systems Thinking: A Primer
    Networking
    Running For City Council / Learning How Politics Work
    A Promised Land by Barak Obama
    User Research
    Accessing People


    “Strong opinions don’t mean right opinions.”


    Reflections:


    Damien: The decommodification of labor and people.


    John: Finding strengths and leaning into them so you can be the most effective.


    Casey: We are stronger together.


    Wesley: Skills are things you aren’t necessarily born with. You can create and cultivate them.


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    Special Guest: Wesley Faulkner.
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    • 53 min
    220: Safety Science and Failure As An Opportunity For Growth with Josh Thompson

    220: Safety Science and Failure As An Opportunity For Growth with Josh Thompson

    01:48 - Josh’s Superpower: Teaching nearly anything he knows to almost anyone



    Fear Remediation


    05:04 - Safety Science and Staying Safe While Rock Climbing



    2020 Accidents in North American Climbing
    Accidents are the result of normal work
    How Complex Systems Fail


    17:42 - Transfer of Knowledge from Experts to Non-Experts


    23:07 - Root Cause Analysis & Taking Gambles


    33:00 - Failure As An Opportunity For Growth



    Why Tacit Knowledge is More Important Than Deliberate Practice by Cedric Chin


    50:07 - Psychological Safety



    William Khan: Psychological Conditions of Personal Engagement and Disengagement at Work


    Reflections:


    Rein: Operators are always gambling and taking risks.



    Cognition in Practice by Jean Lave
    The Reflective Practitioner: How Professionals Think in Action


    Mando: How to properly build systems and teams that are friendly to lesser experienced individuals to bring up folx who are earlier in their careers or other industries.


    Josh: Commemorating team learning experiences.


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    Special Guest: Josh Thompson.
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    • 1 hr 11 min
    219: How Are You Doing? with Mando Escamilla

    219: How Are You Doing? with Mando Escamilla

    03:19 - Mando’s Superpower: Willingness to Talk About Anything Personal with Others


    08:39 - Dealing with Life in 2020/2021



    Rationality vs Non-Rationality
    Feeling Lost and Unmoored


    18:30 - Finding Anchors



    Narrative and Story
    Emotion
    Song
    Rhyme
    Repetition
    Affiliation


    Ted Lasso
    The Ten Thousand Doors of January by Alix E. Harrow


    34:28 - Being Okay Being Less Productive


    Sea Shanty TikTok


    46:47 - Practicing Gratitude For Communities You Do Have; Talking to Kids About Feelings



    What do you do with the mad that you feel? – Mr. Rogers
    Sesame Street: Dave Matthews and Grover Sing about Feelings



    “If it’s mentionable, it’s manageable.” – Fred Rogers



    Reflections:


    Rein: The ability for there to be a higher-level cognitive function that happens after emotional and affective responses and that it is capable of mediating between those responses and action.


    Mando: Giving a specific name to how he’s feeling right now: lost.


    Damien: The value of interrogating feelings.



    “Community is not the sum of its members but the product of their relationships.” – Russell Ackoff



    This episode was brought to you by @therubyrep of DevReps, LLC. To pledge your support and to join our awesome Slack community, visit patreon.com/greaterthancode


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    Sponsored By:
    Linode: Whether you're working on a personal project or managing enterprise infrastructure, you deserve simple, affordable, and accessible cloud computing solutions that allow you to take your project to the next level.

    Simplify your cloud infrastructure with Linode's Linux virtual machines and develop, deploy, and scale your modern applications faster and easier.

    Get started on Linode today with $100 in free credit for listeners of Greater Than Code. You can find all the details at linode.com/greaterthancode.

    Linode has 11 global data centers and provides 24/7/365 human support with no tiers or hand-offs regardless of your plan size. In addition to shared and dedicated compute instances, you can use your $100 in credit on S3-compatible object storage, Managed Kubernetes, and more.

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    • 1 hr 7 min

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I've been noticing recently that many other tech podcasts seem to draw from the same pool of people over and over. These are the same people who I see over and over on my Twitter feed (if I follow them or not) and while they are bright and have a lot to offer, I can't help but feel if the industry is limiting itself in who we lift up. Some of those folks have been on this podcast too, but there's a lot of other folks I wouldn’t know about otherwise. Its why when I scroll through my podcast feed to decide what to listen to in the morning, GTC is usually top of my list.

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