Just because you’re a grown-up, it doesn’t mean you’re done growing. We want to demystify the ways we keep growing as grown-ups by sharing with you what both science and experience has taught us.
Episode 38: Understanding Emotional Intelligence with Kedren Crosby
Emotions are information that help us learn something about ourselves – what is going on inside of us, and what we feel really matters. ‘Emotional Intelligence’ is thrown around a lot but few people know what it means or why it really matters in the workplace.
In today’s episode, Sara sits down with Kedren Crosby, President at Work Wisdom and co-host of The Behaviorist podcast, to talk about Emotional Intelligence. Kedren’s focus is on conflict resolution, burnout, work-life integration, authentic leadership, organizational culture, conflict management, all with a bent toward positive psychology and positive emotional behavior.
Kedren holds a Master's degree in Policy Science from The University of Maryland Baltimore County, graduate-level certificates in Nonprofit Studies from The Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, Conflict Resolution at Notre Dame, and has completed graduate coursework in Organizational Behavior at Harvard University. Kedren is also a certified practitioner of Emotional Intelligence and formerly served as adjunct graduate school faculty at Elizabethtown College. Professionally, her 25 years of experience in all three sectors (for-profit, non-profit, government) fuel both her empathy and her ability to see quickly into your specific scenario.
Watch the full episode or download the show notes here:
Keep up with Kedren at and her work at:
- Work Wisdom LLC - https://www.workwisdomllc.com/
- The Behaviorist Podcast - https://open.spotify.com/show/0suygL44OYkswhLvJvUe9L
- LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kedrencrosby/
- Twitter – https://twitter.com/workwisdomllc
- Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/workwisdom/?hl=en
- YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCT4yJlvJEASRjYZXVvXOZw
Episode 37: The Hard Work of Equity and Belonging with Duane Reynolds
When COVID raised healthcare disparities to a national level, it ignited the work that Duane Reynolds puts his heart and soul into - creating a more just, equitable, and fair healthcare system.
This conversation is relevant to all of us, not just those in healthcare. You’ve heard us say before that growth happens through challenges that contradict our current lens, and in this way, the work of social justice provides a rich source of growth if we will lean into it.
So join Sara as she sits down with Duane to dig into what it looks like to find your passion, develop your voice and be part of conversations that matter, make a difference in the community, and ultimately, promote inclusion and love of all humanity.
Watch the full episode or download the show notes here:
Keep up with Duane at and his work at:
- Just Health Collective - https://www.justhealthcollective.com/
- The Centering Health Equity podcast - https://www.centeringhealthequity.com/#latest-episodes
- LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/duane-elliott-reynolds-65653015/
- Twitter - https://twitter.com/duane_reynolds
Episode 36: Growing Up is Serious Business with Ambassador Andrew Young
In the decades since Andrew Young helped change the course of history as a leader in the Civil Rights movement, he has built a remarkable legacy as a civic activist, elected official, groundbreaking ambassador, social entrepreneur, and adviser to presidents.
In this episode, Ambassador Young sits down with Keith to discuss how to deal with internal conflicts in external reality, how reconciliation is coming together 'in spite of', determining the kind of legacy you want to leave, seeking meaning and direction in life, and ultimately, how growing up is a serious business.
Ambassador Young was exceptionally generous with his time, and this episode was recorded in two parts totaling over two and a half hours. We edited that down to a shorter version for the podcast, but if you would like to see the conversation in its entirety, you can watch it HERE on our YouTube channel. Most of the podcast comes from the second conversation, but the first part is also rich with stories and wisdom so we encourage you to check it out.
Find more information on this episode, including the transcript here: www.growinggrownups.com/andrewyoung
Episode 35: Growing (our Faith) as Grown-Ups with Andy Stanley
If you’ve been with us for any amount of time, you may know that one of our taglines here at The Leaders Lyceum and the work we do is ‘developing the whole person’. We talk a lot about leadership, family, parenting, what to do with your direct reports, friend groups, etc but rarely do we talk about faith.
In this episode, Andy Stanley, Founder and Senior Pastor of North Point Ministries sits down with Keith to discuss what it means to have faith as an anchor (when it grows and matures with us), and how difficult circumstances, tragedies, and even doubt itself, can cause us to grow when we choose to embrace the challenge.
Episode 34: Vertical Development in Review
Vertical Development, if you’re willing to live into it, gives you insight into the world around you AND insight into yourself.
In today’s episode, we are not only wrapping up 2021 (say what?!), but also our current series on Vertical Development. Dr. Sara Musgrove, Dr. Keith Eigel, and guest, Dr. Karl Kuhnert sit down to discuss their thoughts on the last few episodes, their take on vertical development, and how the curriculum for our growth is all around us in every-day life.
Episode 33: Everyone’s Experience Matters with Dr. Nancy Popp
Do the people around you know that their experience matters to you? Do they feel known, seen, and understood by you? This is the value of understand the developmental road map and learning how to identify where you and others are on the journey.
While there is a great deal of commonality among all people, the way each person makes sense of our world is fundamentally different. When we recognize that we are more effective in influencing others when we meet them where they are, and not trying to get them to meet us where we are, we can come alongside them and help them take their next step.
In this episode, Sara invites Dr. Nancy Popp dives even deeper into the conversation on vertical development. Focusing more on the real-life application of the model, Nancy shares strategies for how to get a better sense of where people are in their development. She also issues some wise words of warning about how to not use this information in unhelpful ways.
Nancy Popp earned her EdD. in adult developmental psychology from Harvard University Graduate School of Education, where she worked with Robert Kegan. Her initial work on psychological boundaries has expanded over the years to include issues of identity, conflict, and consciousness. Nancy is one of the foremost experts in the Subject-Object Interview and Constructive-developmental psychology. She uses both extensively in her work as a developmental coach, mentor, trainer, consultant, teacher, writer and researcher.
Nancy’s research led her to write The Self in Conflict: The Evolution of Mediation, co-authored with Dr. Richard McGuigan, which expands on how we can “can better understand the meaning-making that underlies the behaviors that disputants exhibit in conflict, thereby allowing interveners to help the disputants expand their understanding of the conflict situation and find new pathways to its resolution”.
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A wonderful guide for exploring the fascinating case study that is you.
Very pertinent to our current world
I enjoy all episodes of this podcast, but this episode, which aired on Election Day but I am just listening to now, should be a requirement to serve in Congress or the White House. What a great conversation and reflection in listening to others.
Am I part of the problem?
In this election cycle, where so many of us are feeling frustrated, anxious, angry, etc, this is an episode that shines light in some dark places. If I am not listening with curiosity to colleagues and friends who hold different perspectives than my own, I am part of the problem. Karl and Keith identify ways to lean in and be curious , to be brave and be kind, with those who hold different viewpoints than my own. When I can really understand the other’s perspective, I chose growth.