Halloween Fish - Fall Reports & New Data on Circle Hooks EP 345

The challenges of Fall fishing

Tonight’s show run down

Fishing Reports  15m

Hatcher Bros Erin (@femboyfishing) and Michael (@srien_string_and_stream) are catching smallies and trout and the occasional walleye in the Ozarks

Steve NcAngler says trout season is over in The White Mountains but one can still dredge up some nice browns in the catch and release section of the Androscoggin.  He’s catching bass these days on Sneaky Pete’s (topwater bullet head popper with a flared skirt and trailing sili strands) and for subsurface he likes Dragon Tails (a tail material called sili worm behind a built up head, originally cut down “Squirmy” toys)

The Driftless-some streams closed for the Fall spawn but plenty of creeks are open to catch and release and the tourists have gone home.  Fishing is solitary and they’re smashing the terrestrials, some drys and streamers.

https://news.orvis.com/fly-fishing/seasons-of-the-driftless-area

Joe Henry Fishing at Lake of the Woods is on fire!!! 6m

FITN 10min

John Gierach

passed from a heart attack October 3rd 2024

Apache Trout Success:

https://www.doi.gov/pressreleases/secretary-haaland-announces-removal-apache-trout-arizonas-state-fish-endangered

Maine Bans Painted Heads:

https://www.newscentermaine.com/article/life/animals/wildlife/new-law-expands-maines-lead-fishing-tackle-ban-protect-loons/97-61c87bb3-687c-4610-839a-2ce5eb8fb7fa

Laura Williams Maine Audubon Society 30 min

Show pt. 2 Halloween 

 Scary Fish: 15-20 min

Zombie Salmon-Yes they are catchable, some fight some do not, the scariest thing i have ever felt sorry for short of Frankenstien.  I find the grip and grin photos with them disquieting.

Peter Herman Adventures-

https://youtu.be/C5AjppfOntc?si=5NzzCCLnY6v4j5vm

Candiru-sent in by our own Jeff Danaldson

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candiru_(fish)

This is the one that legend says swims up one’s urine stream right into the urethra.  It has never been confirmed.  In 1997 one was removed from a man’s urethra but the circumstances were “suspect” which is a story just made for Fish Nerds.

Stonefish-this one scared the heck out of me when I was a little kid.  The most venomous fish of all.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synanceia

https://www.surfertoday.com/environment/how-to-treat-a-stonefish-sting

other entries:

The Kraken

Angler Fish

Goblin Shark

My FAVORITE from Steve NcAngler is “the fish you hooked but never saw.”  It could have been anything!

Listener spooky stories and other fisher freak outs:  15-20min

62% of respondents have had a weird or spooky incident on the water.

25% said it started scary but turned out to be something ordinary

CH and the turtle

Chris Snodgrass

My Wife and I were trolling for Kokanee Salmon. It was just before dark and we had the only boat on the water. It's a small reservoir in Montana. The water was like glass it was so calm. As we got out to the middle the water swirled next to the boat like a whale turned next to us. The swirl was as big or bigger than our boat. It was extremely creepy so we headed to the dock! Still not sure what the swirl was caused by but maybe an under water spring... It was in 50' of water though.

Alan Dumitrescu

I'm the only person at this lake. You know the sound of a rod wishing through the air on a hard cast? Yeah that sounds happened in the wooded area behind me just once like a cast. Only similar sounds I've ever heard is bigger birds wings. I looked no birds anywhere no turkeys roosting in trees for the night. The sun was setting at this point. I didn't see anything but it was real close. My only other thought cause a bunch of neighboring property dogs were all fired up a few minutes earlier and they had settled down just before I heard it. Never heard bobcat hiss in person but at that point since they are in that area is all I could think and why the dogs were fired up. So I hurried the hell out of there. I'm not tangling with big kitty if that's what it was.

John J Murphy

Well I grew up in Salem Ma and used to fish a cemetery pond so I’d go with yes

Phantom Casters From Rick Webster

I was fishing the first beach at Sandy Hook in Jersey one late September. When I got to the parking lot and not another car in sight. I set up, soaking clams on two rods before sun-up. As the pre-dawn light began to show over the horizon, a THICK bank of fog rolled in. Slack tide and zero wind…very peaceful but not expecting anything spectacular.

Suddenly, about 500 seagulls that had been resting on the roof of the bath house lifted into the air and began to dive nosily into the surf. The fog was so thick I couldn’t see them, but I could hear them, not 20 yards off the beach. Figuring a blitz of snappers, I sent a 3-ounce Yo-Zuri popper into the fog and immediately came tight on what turned out to be a 12lb Albie. As I was fighting this fish, the fog began to lift and I could see I was surrounded by 25 to 30 other surfcasters. I had no clue how they suddenly appeared as this stretch of beach is wide open, so I would have seen them before the fog came in. No one spoke and the only sounds were screaming gulls and drags as we all enjoyed a rare mix of blues and albies for the next 30 minutes in a classic fall blitz.

As the action died down, the fog rolled in again and I appeared to be all alone again. Since I was tired and a little spooked by the mornings events, I packed up my gear and headed back to the parking lot. Just like when I arrived, mine was the only car there. I have no idea where the other fishermen came from or how they disappeared and to this day, I’m not entirely convinced they were actually there.

https://onthewater.com/spooky-fishing-stories

Aliens prefer fishers:

Pascagoula UFO Abduction 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascagoula_Abduction

See Entry 12: 

https://skepticalinquirer.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/29/2019/03/SI-MJ-12.pdf

Charles Hickson 42 Calvin Parker 19  Went fishing on the Pascagoula River Mississippi October 11th 1973

On the evening of October 11, 1973, 42-year old Charles Hickson and 19-year-old Calvin Parker went fishing on the west bank of the Pascagoula River.  As dusk fell, they heard a whirring/whizzing sound and saw flashes of blue light on the water.  They looked up to see an oval-shaped object approximately 30-40 feet across and 8-10 feet high.  Three creatures came gliding out of the craft and took them aboard.  Completely paralyzed but still conscious, the two men were subjected to a medical exam by a giant robotic eye.  They were then returned to shore, and the craft sped away into the night sky. 

Both changed their stories over time.  Parker said he passed out but later claimed to remember certain details.  Hickson kept altering his story. The original polygraph on Hickson was given by an untrained operator as part of a commercial deal and there is speculation that it never really took place.

Drinking was believed to be part of the incident.

Hypnagogic dream

 paroxysmal sleep-related disorder incubus syndrome

both fall in the category of parasominias

Still one of the best UFO stories out there.  There is a commemorative plaque marking the spot on the Pascagoula River where the incident took place   

Should have been fishing

Thank Yous:

Wally Pleasant for our show theme, Diana’s Bath Salts for our Fish in the News theme, Dan Henig for his nice little tune Savannah Sunshine which we used on our chat with Laura Williams, Laren Duski for her instrumental Rollin’ which we used to on the Lake of the Woods fishing report, Joe Henry for bringing us that report, Steve NcAngler and the Hatcher Brothers for their fishing reports, Laura Williams for being a lead free fishing ally, Chris Snograss, Alan Dumitrescue and John Murphy for their spooky fishing tales, Rick Webster for his legion of spirit surf casters story but especially you the listener for bringing your ears right on in here and letting us fill them up with fish stuff. 

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