50 episodes

The show discusses the age of self-censorship and how it affects our careers as clinicians, specifically clinicians that work with vulnerable populations. It will tie in free speech, current controversies and ‘touchy subjects’ within the practice of Applied Behavior Analysis, and the pursuit of truth as an outspoken practitioner.

Honestly Unorthodox. with Kayla Perry Kayla Perry

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    • 3.4 • 41 Ratings

The show discusses the age of self-censorship and how it affects our careers as clinicians, specifically clinicians that work with vulnerable populations. It will tie in free speech, current controversies and ‘touchy subjects’ within the practice of Applied Behavior Analysis, and the pursuit of truth as an outspoken practitioner.

    What Ancient Cultures Can Teach Us About the Lost Art of Empowering People with Disabilities

    What Ancient Cultures Can Teach Us About the Lost Art of Empowering People with Disabilities

    Dylan and I discuss the Industrial Revolution and how it has made us all similar to the "fitless humans" in the movie Wall-E. Between the habit of poor positioning when we scroll on our phones on the couch, to education systems keeping children sedentary, our society as Americans is quickly headed towards poor health and, possibly, a lifetime of pain. This is especially pronounced for those with disabilities, who may lack the language and cognitive capacity to fully understand how to address and communicate pain, manage pain, and strengthen themselves with the human body armor that is muscle. Can people with disabilities still benefit from good nutrition, lifting heavy things, and a life similar to that of the Hadzabe tribe? Hell yeah, they can! We just have to be willing to do it ourselves.
    Challenges of the Week:
    1. Continue to walk for 30 minutes, 3 times per week.
    2. Choose a habit you'd like to change, and simply carry around a notecard or notepad to which you'll tally off whenever you engage in the habit.
    3. If you are religious about your Apple Watch, try taking it off for an entire day and make note of what you feel.
    4. Sit on the floor, with your back unsupported, for 10 minutes while you're watching a TV show or answering emails.
    5. Please leave us a review! Our egos have not recovered from the reviews we are left with. ;-)
    Please email me with any questions, comments, or concerns! theangrybehavioranalyst@gmail.com (I need a new email address, don't I... :-) )

    • 48 min
    How Your Phone Is Turning You Into A Degenerate

    How Your Phone Is Turning You Into A Degenerate

    HOUSEKEEPING:
    1. Dylan and I are starting a nonprofit related to common-sense approaches to health, wellness, and building of communities to mitigate poor mental health and bad therapy. With a slew of psychotropics and endless access to useless "therapeutic" interventions, we are attacking Big Pharma the Mayan Way: through togetherness, community-based strategies, and offering people purpose and meaning over digital prestige.
    2. In an effort to detox ourselves and others from the effects of cesspool-gram, we have started a pen pal club! If you'd like to help us send letters to all of our clients who get lonely during the holiday season, please email me at theangrybehavioranalyst@gmail.com for details.
    Challenges of the Week:
    1. Walk for 30 minutes, 3 times per week.
    2. Delete all social media apps and any access to social media for 1 consecutive week.
    3. Spend 3-5 minutes every day completely devoid of stimulation; no phone, no talking, no TV, no computer, no nothing.
    4. Report your findings to us theangrybehavioranalyst@gmail.com
    Please email me with any questions, comments, or concerns! theangrybehavioranalyst@gmail.com (I need a new email address, don't I... :-) )

    • 50 min
    Post-Unpopular: Is Our Field Saved?

    Post-Unpopular: Is Our Field Saved?

    In short: no. The long answer: while this may have been a great step for our field, as we need to start somewhere, Dylan and I discuss the necessary steps that each individual needs to take in order for something like the Unpopular Conference to have long lasting effects. Pssst: it starts with you. We also go into depth about what our plans are, if I'm leaving the field or not, and what our next venture may be post-Nazi-Gate.
    Please email me with any questions, comments, or concerns! theangrybehavioranalyst@gmail.com (I need a new email address, don't I... :-) )

    • 52 min
    Thoughts Leading Up to the Unpopular Conference

    Thoughts Leading Up to the Unpopular Conference

    Of course, behavior analysts are upset about free speech being a bad thing. Have you considered moving to North Korea? I kid, but sadly, I'm serious. On today's episode, Dylan and I discuss our thoughts and our hopes leading up to The Unpopular Conference, our very obvious stance on free speech, and why we believe that behavior analysts are, as of today, completely unequipped to handle any problem outside of those experienced by autistic children. Oh, and lastly, we discuss why I moved away from the stupidity of social media for an undisclosed period of time---- as a behavior experiment, of sorts. See you all at the conference!
    Please email me with any questions, comments, or concerns! theangrybehavioranalyst@gmail.com (I need a new email address, don't I... :-) )

    • 45 min
    Can People with Disabilities Understand Death?

    Can People with Disabilities Understand Death?

    Adam returns to first review the past few weeks of a failed cancellation attempt. Have we both survived? Are we living on the streets? Are we morally injured? As you can imagine, the answer to every question is "no", except for the first--- because we are thriving in today's episode talking about language, perception, and explaining concepts like death and grieving to people with disabilities. We also touch on school refusal, how avoiding anxiety makes anxiety worse, and differentiating between burnout and b******t.
    Please email me with any questions, comments, or concerns! theangrybehavioranalyst@gmail.com (I need a new email address, don't I... :-) )

    • 22 min
    On the Loss of Siblings & Caring For Grieving Parents

    On the Loss of Siblings & Caring For Grieving Parents

    For today's episode, Kait and Dylan return to discuss the loss of her brother to suicide, while I dive into the loss of my brother to a Fentanyl overdose. Losing loved ones is spoken about as a loss, one that is sometimes tragic, but we often struggle to find the "right" words to console a grieving person. Considering we have our own ideas of grief, is there a correct and incorrect way of offering support? We finish with talking about whether or not we believe in an afterlife, if we're spiritual or not, and if Kayla is actually an atheist.
    Please email me with any questions, comments, or concerns! theangrybehavioranalyst@gmail.com (I need a new email address, don't I... :-) )

    • 58 min

Customer Reviews

3.4 out of 5
41 Ratings

41 Ratings

Youngblood500 ,

Unorthodox or just presenting another side or information?

The term unorthodox implies contrary to what is usual, traditional, or accepted. It is normally used to defy orthodox practice or tradition. Having listened to a number of episodes ranging from transgendered people to mental health it appears that this podcast is “traditional” at best. Often the tone is that of one generation complaining about another generation. I almost laughed out loud when the host started on a rant about “kids these days and how they don’t have the x, y, or z skill because they didn’t have x,y,z hardship like I had!”. The speaker often equates transgendered girls to nothing more than social contagion or being susceptible to influence by social media. The sourcing of this claim came from a poorly vetted book, based on debunked research which was highly influenced by selection/sampling bias. The host uses the DSM-5 and the data in there and concludes that the increase in transgenderism must be based on social media. Ignoring that the broader scientific mental health community (ACA, AMA, APA, etc) for over 10 years has been describing the hardships and high rates of suicide or violence faced by people who may be transgendered. By the end of the episode I was more convinced that the host was conclusion shopping rather than engaged in active inquiry and skepticism. The sourcing of this podcast seems to be a retelling of Joe Rogan, Candace Owen, Jordon Peterson, or whatever ever right wing talking head the speaker may find who happens to agree with her point of view. I initially gave two stars because I think the episode on logical fallacies was of interest.

I tend to agree with the speaker on things like neuro-diversity and trauma informed care. I think we need to be critical of such labels or people who claim to practice techniques using these labels because they are poorly defined and have no measurable criteria to base the practice on.

After sitting down and discussing points of view with Kayla it was refreshing to have a conversation and to focus on what we agree on. I may have been rather unfair with my initial rating. I may not agree with all the points Kayla is trying to get across but understand her desire to create dialogue and understanding between people.

Meedeeee ,

Far right rhetoric

Host claims to seek the truth, but unless you wanna be fed far right dog poo, this ain’t it. Also, the infamous may 10th episode. Host and guests claimed that the conversation needed to be had but fail to understand why a majority of people, specifically other BCBAs, educators, parents, and those with disabilities are upset: 1) Laughing at asking the question. If this is an important and serious topic, why the laughter? 2) When encountering not one, but possibly hundreds of people upset at what you said, your approach was to tell them they had no right to be upset, or that being upset did not mean they were correct, or whatever else the host said on her platform. Instead of coming from a place of TRUE curiosity and wanting to understand others (as host claims she does), she instead cried victim and claimed she was being “bullied” or “canceled.” Had you said what you said on your podcast at the beginning, maybe more people would have understood you or cared to have a further conversation. And it’s okay to take some time to process, and find your words. But at no point were you actually quiet. You continued to spit your n*sty rhetoric. You think you’re having important or difficult discussions. But your delivery is obviously terrible. You don’t get to decide that - your audience does. Fix your delivery and maybe more will care to listen and take you seriously.

Jo.Ro. ,

Yikes

I listened to the May 10th episode after seeing Kayla claim that the critiques were taken out of context. Unfortunately, the episode did not make the podcasters appear any better than the short clip that’s been circling the internet. In fact, I think it made them all appear worse. The speakers lacked careful analysis and made assumptions throughout the episode. As others have mentioned, they shared that discussion regarding the possibility of eugenics should be had. Either the speakers supper eugenics or are ineffective communicators and unintentionally normalized eugenics. In any case, the rhetoric is dangerous. The whole episode is filled with far-right dog whistles. I do not recommend this podcast, specifically, the May 10th episode.

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