Unlayered

Sal Qadir and Dave Apsimon
Unlayered

Think beyond Ethereum and dive deep into the world of next generation blockchains. Join us as we engage with founders, engineers, researchers, investors, and critics of high-throughput, low-fee, parallelized blockchains like Solana, Monad, Sei, and more. Unlayered is for crypto natives eager to stay updated with the latest developments, complementing shows that focus primarily on Ethereum and its layered scaling approach.

  1. 10月22日

    How DePIN Will Help Power Virtual Power Plants & The AI Revolution I Fredrik Ahlgren (Sourceful)

    This week, Dave speaks with Fredrik Ahlgren (@frahlg) from Sourceful, who are trying to use DePIN tokenomics incentives to create a global green-energy Virtual Power Plant. Green energy is going to be an increasingly important topic in the years ahead with the rise of both AI and global warming, and Fredrik feels that crypto token incentives are exactly what is needed to start onboarding the masses. We also touch on the future of energy, especially in a post-Superintelligence world. - - Episode Resources Follow Fredrik : https://Twitter.com/frahlg Follow Sourceful : https://Twitter.com/srcful - - Podcast Resources Follow Sal: https://twitter.com/salxyz Follow Dave: https://twitter.com/SolBeachBum Follow Zen : https://twitter.com/ZenLlama Follow Unlayered: https://twitter.com/UnlayeredPod Subscribe on Spotify, Apple, or Google: https://unlayered.io/ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@UnlayeredPod - - Time Stamps (0:00) - Fredrik’s Route From Academia To DePIN (7:56) - Issues With Existing Energy Systems (20:37) - Which Actions Do Sourceful Wish To Incentivize (28:40) - Advantages Over Centralized Competitors (31:10) - Business Models For Sourceful (35:26) - Token Demand Side (38:37) - GTM Strategy and Thinking About Regulations (44:23) - Will Nuclear Make Up A Large Part Of Future Energy Mix (49:38) - How Will AI Change Energy Consumption (55:36) - Will Energy Become A Digital Commodity Post AI Super-Intelligence (1:02:44) - Next Steps

    1 小时 6 分钟
  2. 10月9日

    How Blinks Will Transform Crypto UI And Help Showcase AI Agents I Chris Osborn (Dialect)

    This week, we sit down with Chris Osborn (@aliquotchris) from Dialect - one of the founders of the hugely ambitious Blinks protocol which allows for crypto actions to appear seamlessly on existing web2 social media platforms. Whilst many have mused on possible applications of this tech, from prediction markets to fundraising - we delve deeper with Chris into possible second order effects of this breakthrough technology and discuss how it might form the backbone of a new SDK primitive, or even how Blinks might become the de facto front page for AI Agents in the future. - - Episode Resources Follow Chris : https://Twitter.com/aliquotchris Follow Dialect : https://Twitter.com/saydialect - - Podcast Resources Follow Sal: https://twitter.com/salxyz Follow Dave: https://twitter.com/SolBeachBum Follow Zen : https://twitter.com/ZenLlama Follow Unlayered: https://twitter.com/UnlayeredPod Subscribe on Spotify, Apple, or Google: https://unlayered.io/ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@UnlayeredPod - - Time Stamps (0:00) - What Is A Blink (8:40) - Can Blinks Spread To All Social Media Platforms (12:35) - Future Use Cases (21:22) - Combining Blinks and AI Agents (27:44) - Blinks As Next Gen Of SDKs (34:32) - How Does Dialect Benefit From Blinks (37:32) - Can Elon Turn Blinks Off (40:15) - Lessons From Dialect’s Messaging App (46:37) - Which Apps Excite Chris (50:26) - Will Decentralized Messaging Apps Achieve PMF Post Durov Arrest

    57 分钟
  3. 9月2日

    Why Eth Needs To Scale The L1 To Remain Relevant I Logan Jastremski, Frictionless Capital

    This week, Sal (@Salxyz) and Dave (@SolBeachBum) sit down with one of the loudest and most outspoken proponents for high throughput blockchains - Logan Jastremski (@LoganJastremski) from Frictionless Capital. He discusses whether his thesis around high throughput blockchains has been proven correct, and we talk about the recent capitulation seen from within the Ethereum developer camp around scaling the L1 at the expense of reducing decentralization. Logan also talks to the relevancy and his fund's continued interest in defi primitives before talking through new verticals within the umbrella of DePIN which are likely to supercharge this burgeoning asset category. - - Episode Resources Follow Logan : https://Twitter.com/LoganJastremski Follow Frictionless Capital : https://Twitter.com/_Frictionless_ - - Podcast Resources Follow Sal: https://twitter.com/salxyz Follow Dave: https://twitter.com/SolBeachBum Follow Zen : https://twitter.com/ZenLlama Follow Unlayered: https://twitter.com/UnlayeredPod Subscribe on Spotify, Apple, or Google: https://unlayered.io/ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@UnlayeredPod - - Time Stamps (0:00) - How Has High Throughput Blockchain Thesis Played Out (6:26) - Are On Chain Order Books Overhyped? (16:12) - Can Solana Ever Move Away From Congestion Issues (22:24) - Expectations For Firedancer (26:31) - Which Verticals Are Best To Invest Into (31:43) - Will Institutions Actually Deploy RWAs Onto Solana (37:59) - Where Will Value For L1s Come From If Apps Control Order Flow (44:45) - Under-Explored Use Cases For DePIN (49:20) - What Stops Incumbents Copying DePIN Business Model (54:59) - Difficulties Around Energy-Based DePIN Projects (57:25) - Thoughts on Solana Inspired New Projects (Monad and MegaEth) (1:01:16) - Thoughts On Rise Of Tron and Ton (1:04:40) - Does Eth Need To Scale The L1 To Remain Relevant

    1 小时 9 分钟
  4. 8月26日

    SkyTrade: Building The World's First Air Rights Market I Jonathan Dockrell, Skytrade

    This week, Sal and Dave sit down with Jonathan Dockrell from SkyTrade - a highly innovative project which is creating a marketplace for property owners to sell the Air Rights above their properties. There are numerous sources of demand for this space, from drone delivery companies to real estate development - with it being estimated to be worth $30 Tn, and yet many owners are not even aware that they own this highly desirable space. SkyTrade utilises novel RWA tokenization techniques on the Solana blockchain as well as a Depin-based Drone tracking app to bring into the light a previously opaque and illiquid asset class. - - Episode Resources Follow Jonathan : https://Twitter.com/droneevtol Follow SkyTrade : https://Twitter.com/SkyTradeNetwork 'Flying Car' Substack : https://flyingcar.sky.trade/ - - Podcast Resources Follow Sal: https://twitter.com/salxyz Follow Dave: https://twitter.com/SolBeachBum Follow Zen : https://twitter.com/ZenLlama Follow Unlayered: https://twitter.com/UnlayeredPod Subscribe on Spotify, Apple, or Google: https://unlayered.io/ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@UnlayeredPod - - Time Stamps (0:00) - Why Focus on Creating a Market for Air Rights (4:36) - What's Holding Back the Drone Delivery Industry (8:37) - Real Estate Use Cases for Air Space (11:22) - Estimating a TAM for Air Rights (21:24) - Building Out a Depin-Based Drone Tracking App (25:46) - Existing State of Air Rights Market (29:32) - How to Abstract Away Heterogeneity of Each Product (32:01) - Views on Crypto Coming From Web2 Background (40:56) - Reactions to the Project (43:51) - When Can We Expect Flying Cars (49:05) - Future of Drone Delivery Market (52:20) - Looking Ahead for SkyTrade

    54 分钟
  5. 8月19日

    Hedgehog : What Next For Prediction Markets? I Kyle DiPeppe, Hedgehog Markets

    This week, Sal and Dave sit down with Kyle DiPeppe from Hedgehog Markets to discuss their bid to become the largest prediction market in crypto. We talk about the history of prediction markets outside of crypto, what has fuelled their success to date, how to leverage decentralized technology for competitive advantages to traditional betting markets - and what happens to volumes post the 2024 US Elections. Crypto-based prediction markets are one of the clear breakout applications this cycle, and the fight right now is to avoid irrelevancy post the US election. Listen to Kyle explain how he thinks Hedgehog Markets will navigate the difficult 'second album' of prediction market success. - - Episode Resources Follow Kyle : https://Twitter.com/kdipep Follow Hedgehog Markets : https://Twitter.com/HedgehogMarket - - Podcast Resources Follow Sal: https://twitter.com/salxyz Follow Dave: https://twitter.com/SolBeachBum Follow Zen : https://twitter.com/ZenLlama Follow Unlayered: https://twitter.com/UnlayeredPod Subscribe on Spotify, Apple, or Google: https://unlayered.io/ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@UnlayeredPod - - Time Stamps (0:00) - Route Into Crypto & Prediction Markets (4:31) - Comparison Between Memecoins and Prediction Markets (6:45) - History of Prediction Markets (11:22) - How Does Hedgehog Differ To Betting Sites (13:46) - Hedgehog's Competitive Landscape (17:35) - Process to Create a Market (23:46) - How to Deal with Oracle Veracity (28:40) - How to Select Starting Odds (31:34) - Maintaining Volumes Outside US Elections (37:48) - Potential Risks Around Prediction Markets (41:39) - Building Markets Outside of Traditional Betting Verticals (46:36) - Vampire Attacking PolyMarket (52:28) - Going Mobile (54:47) - Looking Ahead

    57 分钟
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Think beyond Ethereum and dive deep into the world of next generation blockchains. Join us as we engage with founders, engineers, researchers, investors, and critics of high-throughput, low-fee, parallelized blockchains like Solana, Monad, Sei, and more. Unlayered is for crypto natives eager to stay updated with the latest developments, complementing shows that focus primarily on Ethereum and its layered scaling approach.

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