Service Design Show

Service Design Show

Go beyond the basics of service design and learn what it truly takes to deliver services that make a positive impact on people, business and planet.

  1. Repairing Service Design for the Age of AI / Ron Bronson / Ep. #236

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    Repairing Service Design for the Age of AI / Ron Bronson / Ep. #236

    I'm sure you've seen the news... At the outset, the recent announcement of the "America by Design" initiative and the new "National Design Studio" is quite exciting. It’s a huge spotlight on our field. But it also feels a bit strange, doesn't it? Because it wasn’t so long ago that the US government had 18F, an entire organization dedicated to improving the user experience of its services. And then, in early 2025, it was deemed "non-essential" and unceremoniously "deleted". One of the people right in the middle of it all was our guest, Ron Bronson. As the Head of Design at 18F, he was at the forefront of applying service design within the complexities of government. So, you can imagine that when Ron sat down with me for the conversation, it wasn’t just a walk in the park. We dove into some juicy questions that challenge the very core of our practice. Is service design too opaque and stuck in its own craft? What if we reframed our work as a form of “design as repair”? Why might AI actually be the biggest blessing for service design yet? I can assure you, this is a conversation that will get you out of your comfort zone in the best way possible. So, if you’re ready to be challenged with some fresh perspectives, make sure you tune in to this one. Even though we tackle some pretty huge topics in the episode, Ron brings it all back to a simple, powerful idea right at the end of the conversation. Can you take a guess? (Hint: it’s about zooming in, not out ). Enjoy the episode and keep making a positive impact! Be well, ~ Marc --- [ 1. GUIDE ] --- 00:00 Welcome to Episode 236 04:00 Who is Ron 05:30 Service design is too opaque 07:45 Importing service design to the US 09:30 Conversations designers should be having 10:00 The "best service experience" during a crisis 12:50 The Trojan Horse strategy for designers 14:30 Creating a "pull" for service design from within 17:30 The power of doing "uninvited" work 23:00 Examples of a golden nugget 26:00 Trust as a core deliverable 27:00 What students get wrong about design 29:45 The gap between conferences and reality 32:00 Idea of consequence design 34:30 Design as repair: A new mindset 37:30 The "forward deployed" designer. 39:30 What would change if we adopt this mindset 45:00 Making service design ubiquitous 46:30 Right way to frame a problem 48:30 Are organizations in the service business? 51:30 The blessing & curse of "doing the work" 54:15 How he hopes service design would look in 3-5 years 57:00 AI: A blank space for service designers 59:15 Questions to ask about AI 1:01:14 Malicious path vs. ideal path 1:02:45 A question to ponder 1:04:30 What can you fix 1:07:15 Get in touch --- [ 2. LINKS ] --- LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronbronson/BlueSky - https://bsky.app/profile/ronbronson.com Website - https://www.ronbronson.design/ https://consequencedesign.org/ --- [ 3. CIRCLE ] --- Join our private community for in-house service design professionals. ⁠https://servicedesignshow.com/circle --- [ 4. FIND THE SHOW ON ] --- Youtube ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/236-youtubeApple ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/236-appleSnipd ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/236-snipdSpotify ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/236-spotify

    1 giờ 8 phút
  2. Designing for Impact, Not Just for Humans / Ben Rennie / Ep. #235

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    Designing for Impact, Not Just for Humans / Ben Rennie / Ep. #235

    All you want to do is run away… Okay, so you’re standing in a boardroom overlooking a beautiful vineyard, leading a workshop for a major client, and the only thing that's going through your mind is: How do I get out of there? This was a real moment for this episode's guest, Ben Rennie. And it's a feeling that I think many of us can relate to, even if the setting is different (vineyards sound good though). We’ve all heard stories of people who achieve incredible success. The entrepreneur, the athlete, the professional, only to end up feeling empty and miserable. They had their eye on "the prize," did everything to get it, but upon achieving their goal, they end up more unhappy than before. Well, this story is about what happens next. Ben co-founded a design agency that, by all external measures, was a huge success. He was working for leading brands and riding the wave. But one day, during that exact workshop overlooking the vineyard, he had enough. He quit his own agency. That single decision sparked a new journey, one full of unknowns. But one thing was certain: Ben was going to rebuild his life around work that was deeply meaningful and aligned with his core values. He traded fossil fuel clients for partnerships with Patagonia, driven by a new manifesto that took him 15 minutes to write on a piece of paper, not days in a boardroom. For me, Ben’s story is a powerful reminder that we need to define what success truly looks like for ourselves... before it’s too late. So how do we define that? And what can we do to get one step closer to it every single day? That's what we're exploring in this episode. The message of this episode is so important, and surely not solely limited to service design. Because when you spend your most precious possession — your time and energy — for often 40+ hours a week, it better be towards something that gives you fulfilment and pride. The stakes are just too high. Enjoy the conversation and keep making a positive impact! Be well, ~ Marc --- [ 1. GUIDE ] --- 00:00 Welcome to the show 04:30 What is creativity? 07:00 The price we pay 08:30 The imposter syndrome story 10:30 The two lives 13:30 A different turn 17:00 Momentum without boundaries 19:00 From profit to purpose 20:00 How Patagonia became a client 22:00 What is systemic design? 23:30 Creativity as confidence 33:30 What needs to change? 36:45 A word of advice 41:00 The accountability of design 42:30 Transition design examples 45:00 Vote with your money 50:00 A good starting point 52:30 Legacy for the next generation 54:00 Questions about creativity 57:00 Fewer experts, more curiosity 59:00 Resources --- [ 2. LINKS ] --- LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/benrennieLessons in Creativity (Book) - https://benrennie.com/collections/create/products/lessons-in-creativityWebsite: https://benrennie.com/ --- [ 3. CIRCLE ] --- Join our private community for in-house service design professionals. ⁠https://servicedesignshow.com/circle ---[ 4. FIND THE SHOW ON ] --- Youtube ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/235-youtubeSpotify ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/235-spotifyApple ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/235-appleSnipd ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/235-snipd

    1 giờ 7 phút
  3. How to find Joy in the Slow Pace of Change / Martha Edwards / Ep. #234

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    How to find Joy in the Slow Pace of Change / Martha Edwards / Ep. #234

    What makes time go fast for you, and what makes it go slow... It's a powerful question that might just help you find more meaning and heck, yes even more joy in your work. We see a brighter future, but the system moves slowly. This mismatch can lead to frustration and burnout. What if the secret to creating change wasn't about the system, but about you? In this conversation with Martha Edwards, a public sector veteran, we talk about powerful personal habits that keep her effective and optimistic. In this episode we explore topics like: How to find satisfaction in work that might not bear fruit for years Why the energy you bring to a room is one of your most powerful professional tools And how a simple practice like writing "week notes" can be a hack to recognize your small wins and give you the motivation to keep going. This framing takes the pressure off and allows us to be kinder to ourselves, knowing we’ve contributed a piece to a larger, longer story. I'm curious if this metaphor resonate with you too. Enjoy the episode and keep planing seeds . Be well, ~ Marc --- [ 1. GUIDE ] --- 00:00 Welcome to Episode 234 04:00 The current state of public sector design 07:30 How Systemic Uncertainty Affects Designers 08:30 From "Designer" to "Public Servant" 09:30 Finding Meaning in Government Work 12:30 How she can find herself still grateful 16:00 Big learnings: working as a creative writer 18:00 Seeing a "Parallel Universe" at UK's GDS 20:00 Avoid the "Design Colonialist" Mindset 22:30 How it shifted 23:30 government digital service to canadian government 28:30 How Sharing Work Waters the Seeds of Change 30:30 what she recommends to share 36:30 staying patient in a government organization 38:00 how do we navigate that? 43:30 Exercise to Recognize Your "Small" Wins 45:15 Being flexible with your role in the public service industry 48:30 How to Make Smart Compromises 54:30 Finding Your Joy 57:30 Question to ponder 59:30 Connect with Martha --- [ 2. LINKS ] --- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marthaedwardscan/ Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/maredwards.bsky.socialWebsite: marthaedwards.ca Readings: Going beyond planting seeds I’m a service designer and I’ve never done co-design Leading with design at the Ministry of Environment The long slog of public service transformation - by Martin and KaraBarriers to Service Design in Government - Created by Linn Vizard, Marie Serrano and Spencer Beacock --- [ 3. CIRCLE ] --- Join our private community for in-house service design professionals. ⁠https://servicedesignshow.com/circle [4. FIND THE SHOW ON] Youtube ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/234-youtube Spotify ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/234-spotifyApple ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/234-appleSnipd ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/234-snipd

    1 giờ 7 phút
  4. Why Your Org Chart Isn't the Enemy / Ellen Pittman / Ep. #233

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    Why Your Org Chart Isn't the Enemy / Ellen Pittman / Ep. #233

    What if we’ve been led down the wrong path… When it comes to service design, we’re often told the main goal is to break down silos. And that makes sense, right? Our organizations are structured vertically, but the experiences we design flow horizontally. This clash creates friction, so the natural instinct is to declare war on silos. But what if that’s sending us in the wrong direction? Silos exist for a reason; they bring focus and efficiency to specific tasks. The real problem is often the broken connection between them. So, what if instead of trying to eliminate silos, we focused on repairing them? In this episode, I talk with Ellen Pittman, a researcher who shares a fascinating case study from a high-stakes organization struggling to meet a critical, time-sensitive performance target. On the surface, the pressure was on a single department to solve it. But as they dug deeper, they discovered the true bottleneck wasn't in that department at all, or even on the organizational chart. The real roadblocks were less visible and far more human. So what does it take to overcome these hidden barriers? Ellen found a specific mix of ingredients that allowed them to collaborate across team boundaries and address the issue with great success. In our conversation, we explore what those ingredients are and why it seems so hard for most organizations to get them right. This episode has the potential to reframe your thoughts on silos, leadership, and the roadblocks you think are in your way. A theme that I really loved exploring was how easily organizational metrics can be "gamed". We've all seen it, you hit the target but miss the actual goal... we talk about antidote in the episode. Enjoy the conversation and keep making a positive impact. Be well, ~ Marc --- [ 1. GUIDE ] --- 00:00 Welcome to Episode 233 05:00 Vertical vs. Horizontal Structures 06:00 Ellen's Journey into Healthcare Change 07:30 Hospital Case Study 10:30 Real Challenge: System-Wide Impact 12:30 Breaking Silos: A Hospital's Approach 15:30 Leadership Beyond KPIs: True Purpose 23:30 Top-Down Initative, Bottom-Up Ownership 25:30 The Consultant's Fear of ED Patients 27:45 Overcoming Fear with Data Experiments 30:00 Data as Curiosity, Not Blame 35:30The CEO's Risky Vulnerability 39:30 Leadership Flexibility: When to Take Control 44:30 Repairing Silos vs. Breaking Them 45:30 Overcoming Jadedness 48:30 Reconnecting to Shared Purpose 52:30 Principles Etched in Minds, Not Walls 55:30 Why Cultural Change Takes Time 59:00 Insulating Change at Every Level 1:01:00 Leaders & The System: Mutual Understanding 1:04:00 Alan's Book: The Hive Model of Fluidity 1:07:45 Question to Ponder --- [ 2. LINKS ] --- https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-ellen-pittman-27311421a/ --- [ 3. CIRCLE ] --- Join our private community for in-house service design professionals. ⁠https://servicedesignshow.com/circle --- [4. FIND THE SHOW ON] --- Youtube ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/233-youtubeSpotify ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/233-spotifyApple ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/233-itunesSnipd ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/233-snipd

    1 giờ 12 phút
  5. Create Clear & Actionable Journeys with the 5x12 Framework

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    Create Clear & Actionable Journeys with the 5x12 Framework

    I have to admit, even I got stuck... Recently, I was working on the onboarding journey for my Circle community. What started as a flexible journey inside a Miro board very quickly became a complex map that became impossible to use. With every new insight we wanted to add came questions about where it should go and how it should be defined. Due to these meta-level questions, we lost momentum, and the entire process slowed to a halt. Unintentionally, I had created a journey structure that was simply too complex to be useful in practice. Finding the right balance between structure and flexibility, as well as richness and overview, in your journeys is a challenge many of us face. That's why it's the next big problem we tackle in our Journey Management Playbook series. In the past episodes, we've used AI to generate a journey and then verified it to build trust. Now, we need to make it truly manageable. The core issue is that we often treat journey maps as containers for all information, when their true power lies in driving action. So, as we've said often, we need to shift our mindset from "journey mapping" to "journey management". The key is a simple yet powerful framework for structuring your journey. * What if the most effective journey had a specific, limited number of lanes? * What if there was a rule for how many steps you should have (maximum)? * What if there was a simple way to handle complexity without cluttering your main map? In this episode, Tingting reveals the proven framework that helps you answer these questions. With this framework, you'll be able to transform your map from a static document into a practical tool that teams can use to make informed decisions. Heads-up, this is another deep-dive where we get into the nitty-gritty details. We spend a lot of time sharing our screen, so if you're listening to the audio-only version, I highly recommend opening the accompanying slides to follow along visually. We've also included timestamps in the description, so you can easily jump back to a specific topic later on. Be well, ~ Marc --- [ 1. LINKS ] --- Playbook Slides - https://go.servicedesignshow.com/08gplSign up for TheyDo - https://go.servicedesignshow.com/scjwb --- [ 2. GUIDE ] --- 00:00 Welcome to Episode 5 03:00 Meet Tingting: Journey Coach 05:00 Short articles at the end 06:00 Series Recap 07:00 Next Steps: Filling Your Journey 10:00 Action-Biased Journeys 15:30 Simplifying your journey 17:30 Workflow First: Not Just Visuals 19:55 Journey Map Evolution (V1 vs V2) 27:00 Why Fewer Lanes Work 29:10 Triple Diamond Workflow 33:40 Framework Over Flexibility 38:30 Nested journeys 41:20 Lane Owners & Stakeholders 45:30 Offboarding Journey Example 49:00 Automatic Data Roll-Up 50:00 Actionable Insights > Stories 54:15 As-Is vs. To-Be Approaches 1:00:30 Key Takeaways: Structure Tips 1:04:00 Next Episode Preview 1:04:50 Connect With TheyDo --- [ 3. FIND THE SHOW ON ] --- YouTube ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/journey-management-playbook-05-youtube Spotify ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/journey-management-playbook-05-spotifyApple ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/journey-management-playbook-05-appleSnipd ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/journey-management-playbook-05-snipd

    1 giờ 5 phút
  6. A New Perspective on Risk, Failure, and What Really Matters / Alberta Soranzo / Ep. #232

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    A New Perspective on Risk, Failure, and What Really Matters / Alberta Soranzo / Ep. #232

    Everyone wants change, just not for themselves… I remember a great experiment we used to do back in my agency days. At the start of a workshop, we'd ask everyone to put on a prop. It could be a hat, a pair of oversized glasses, or even a superhero cape. After some initial laughter, everyone usually played along. But the interesting part wasn't putting the props on. It was what happened in the minutes that followed. As we started the "official" program, the first person would quietly take their prop off. Then a second would follow, and so on. At no point had I instructed them to stop wearing the props, yet, one by one, they always did. It was a powerful way to confront the group with the strong pull towards conformity. Towards the default mode of doing things. Towards getting back in line. As service design professionals, we know that to create meaningful change, we have to challenge the way things are currently done. But doing anything outside the status quo is inherently risky, especially when the incentive structures in our organizations are set up to reward those who play it safe. To break free, you need a magic ingredient: courage. But how do you build this courage? And why would you risk your career when it’s so much easier to conform? Those are the big questions we explore in a fascinating conversation with Alberta Soranzo. As you'll hear, Alberta has lived these questions. She shares powerful stories about what it takes to create change. From convincing a client to choose a risky, unknown path over the safe bet, to the surprisingly profound impact of a personal choice about her own hair. We also get into what it really means for leaders to provide ‘air cover’ for their teams and how you can find the courage to challenge the system even when you feel powerless — without burning yourself out in the process. I'm confident that you’ll walk away with some unique insights from this honest conversation about leadership, courage, and taking risks. If you've been following along with the past few episodes, I think you'll start to see a clear pattern emerging. When multiple guests, independently of each other, touch on the same topics, it's probably something we should all be paying more attention to. Enjoy the conversation and keep making a positive impact. Be well, ~ Marc --- [ 1. GUIDE ] --- 00:00 Welcome to Episode 232 05:00 Why Courage is Key for Organizational Magic 09:30 Two Business Breakthroughs 15:00 The "Change" Illusion 17:30 Signals of true organizational change 22:30 What triggered the landslide 26:00 Inspiration: Oreo hair 29:00 When Leadership Means Role Modeling 32:00 Reframing Workplace Urgency 35:00 Identity Shift: Your Job Isn't Your Whole Self 39:30 Transformation of "my work does not define me, it's part of me" 44:00 vulnerable act vs the real act 46:00 Alberta's Role: Cultivating Team Excellence 49:00 Navigating Resistance 52:45 Learning from corporate rebels 53:45 The Power of organizational empathy 55:00 Empathy for the System 59:00 Courage in Future Generations 1:01:00 Struggle of helping our kids shaping the world 1:02:30 Question to ponder 1:05:00 Resources --- [ 2. LINKS ] --- LinkedIn - http://linkedin.com/in/albertasoranzoWebsite - https://albertasoranzo.com/BlueSky - https://bsky.app/profile/albertas.bsky.socialGood to watch - The Playlist on Netflix --- [ 3. CIRCLE ] --- Join our private community for in-house service design professionals. ⁠https://servicedesignshow.com/circle ---[ 4. FIND THE SHOW ON ] --- Youtube ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/232-youtubeSpotify ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/232-spotifyApple ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/232-appleSnipd ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/232-snipd

    1 giờ 8 phút
  7. A Service Design Guide to Small Wins and Big Change / Inside Service Design / Ep. #04

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    A Service Design Guide to Small Wins and Big Change / Inside Service Design / Ep. #04

    As a service design professional, what is your primary role...!? Are you the host who sets the table for collaboration and creates a safe space for everyone? Or are you maybe a trusted advisor, working quietly behind the scenes to help stakeholders make better decisions? Well, what if the answer is... both? This tension between hosting and advising is at the heart of the latest Inside Service Design episode, in which we explore the real, unpolished practice of driving change from within organizations. In this episode, we have a great conversation with two seasoned professionals, Seth Campbell and Phil LaDeur, who bring some honest perspectives to the table. Phil shares how we can create the perfect conditions for collaboration and influence by drawing inspiration from the concept of "Unreasonable Hospitality". And Seth talks about the importance of patience, humility, and the art of giving away choices to empower your team and build long-term trust. This is one of those episodes where you get a true peek behind the curtains and hear how other service design professionals are approaching their work. So, if you're ready to discover new ways that will help you move the needle inside your organization, this one is for you! I'm curious, in your current role, do you feel more like a "host" or an "advisor"? Leave a comment on the episode and let me know. I'd love to hear which role resonates more with you. Enjoy the conversation! Be well, ~ Marc --- [ 1. GUIDE ] --- 00:00 Welcome to the June Round Up 04:30 Phil's Journey to Service Design 06:45 How Seth started his role 11:00 The Challenges and what Seth actually does 13:00 Service Design in a Faith-Based Organization 17:00 Defining success in service design 20:30 Seth's Personal Success Metric 24:45 Phil: Small Wins & Feedback" 26:00 The Circle's "Dinner Table" Discussions 28:00 Hospitality as Influence (Phil) 30:00 Theatrics of Design (Seth) 35:00 Overcoming Time Blocks 37:30 Phil's "Restaurant" Framework 41:30 Seth: Hard-Earned Lessons 45:45 The Caboose of a project 46:00 Phil: Learning Organization Horizon 49:30 Investing in Relationships 51:30 Seth: Essential Service Design Skills 53:30 Secret Weapon: Snacks! 54:45 Phil: Skills for Impact 57:30 Questions for Service design professionals --- [ 2. LINKS ] --- https://www.linkedin.com/in/seth-campbell/https://www.linkedin.com/in/phillip-ladeur/ --- [ 3. CIRCLE ] --- Join our private community for in-house service design professionals. ⁠https://servicedesignshow.com/circle [4. FIND THE SHOW ON] Youtube ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/inside-service-design-04-youtube Spotify ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/inside-service-design-04-spotifyApple ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/inside-service-design-04-appleSnipd ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/inside-service-design-04-snipd

    1 giờ 1 phút
  8. How to Create Change That Actually Sticks / Jen Briselli / Ep. #231

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    How to Create Change That Actually Sticks / Jen Briselli / Ep. #231

    What's the last time you did something you didn't know how to do... For me, it was last week when I took up the idea of building custom Cornhole boards (fun and addictive sport, look it up) with my kids. My woodworking skills are limited, at best. And that's one of the reasons I decided to take on this project. I can tell you, now in the midst of the process, that I've already made a dozen small mistakes. However, going out of my comfort zone and doing something for the first time is weirdly what gives me a great sense of joy and satisfaction. Next to having my own custom Cornhole boards at the end of this project I'm sure that the skills, experience and knowledge I'll have gained will be useful somewhere further down the line. So in my personal life, I try to create a lot of space for these types of projects. (Sometimes a bit too much space if you ask my wife.) But what if the environment you're in is explicitly designed to stay in its comfort zone... as much as possible? The reality is that most of the organizations we work with as service design professionals are exactly just that. They are designed to keep things stable, controllable, and predictable. The incentives are basically to keep doing what we've been doing, but just do it faster and cheaper. So for us, who are in the business of experimenting and trying things out in order to drive positive change, that's a serious problem. It's easy to become frustrated with the organization's lack of risk-taking. Fortunately, there are more productive things that you can do instead of getting frustrated. Yes, even in those situations where the appetite for risk-taking feels non-existent. In this episode, we chat with ​Jen Briselli​, who's an expert at growing a learning, adaptive, and dare I say even a bit more playful mindset within organizations. As all change starts within ourselves, we explore what you can do to increase your appetite for risk and uncertainty. We explore ways to be more adaptable, even in systems designed to resist change. And why breaking through some of the common roadblocks in order to be more playful might not be as hard as you think. This is a great conversation for anyone who wants to drive change with more impact and ease. Ready to jump in? One of the insights that stuck with me is that we have more agency than we often think to shake things up a bit inside organizations. We're active participants in these systems, not passive bystanders, and everything we do has a ripple effect. Enjoy and keep making a positive impact! ~ Marc --- [ 1. GUIDE ] --- 00:00 Welcome to episode 231 05:00 Designing Conditions for Emergence 07:00 A Shift in Receptivity 09:00 Jen's Professional Journey & Inspirations 11:00 Jen's Unique Path 18:00 Why Systems Resist Change 24:00 Creating Space and Slack 26:00 The Nature of Adaptive Capacity 29:00 "Wedge in the Door" & "Doorknob Moments" 36:00 Observing Adaptive Behaviors 40:00 Embracing the Disorienting Dilemma 45:30 Confidence in Navigation 52:45 Play, Risk, and Surviving Existential Threats 56:30 Small Actions, Big Impact 58:30 Key Takeaway: "But Did You Die?" 1:00:00 Creative destruction 1:01:45 Reflection Question 1:02:00 Connect with Jen Briselli --- [ 2. LINKS ] --- https://www.linkedin.com/in/jbriselli/ https://www.topologyinsight.com/ --- [ 3. CIRCLE ] --- Join our private community for in-house service design professionals. ⁠https://servicedesignshow.com/circle ---[ 4. FIND THE SHOW ON ] --- YouTube ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/231-youtubeSpotify ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/231-youtubeApple ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/231-appleSnipd ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/231-snipd

    1 giờ 10 phút

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