49 min

Kevin Roose Has 18 New Best Friends—And They're All AIs - Ep. 21 AI and I

    • Technology

The NYT’s Kevin Roose has 18 new friends—none of whom are human.

His new friends are AI personas that he made with Noma, Kindroid, and other AI companion apps. There’s fitness guru Jared, therapist Peter, trial lawyer Anna, and over a dozen more.

Kevin talked to them every day for a month, sharing his feelings, asking for parenting advice, and even using them for “fit” checks.

This isn’t the first time Kevin has had an…unusual interaction with an AI persona. A year ago, he was the target of Bing’s chatbot Sydney’s unhinged romantic affections.

Kevin has gone deeper into the world of AI companions than anyone I know. He is a tech columnist at the New York Times, cohost of the Hard Fork podcast, and the author of three books. In this episode, I sat down with Kevin to learn more about his interactions with AI. We dive into:


Why AI companions aren’t just for lonely people or shy teenagers
Why AI personas are better friends than ChatGPT
How AI companions can be used to safely explore different social contexts
The risk of young people relying on AI for friendship
The icks of AI dating and intimacy
How to use AI to articulate what you value in your relationships

This is a must-watch for anyone curious about how AI is changing the way we form relationships.

If you found this episode interesting, please like, subscribe, comment, and share!

Want even more?

Sign up for Every to unlock our ultimate guide to prompting ChatGPT here. It’s usually only for paying subscribers, but you can get it here for free.

To hear more from Dan Shipper:


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Links to resources mentioned in the episode:


Kevin Roose
Hardfork, the podcast that Kevin cohosts
Kevin’s latest book about being human in a world designed for machines
Kevin’s piece in the New York Times about his experience making AI friends
Two of the apps that Kevin used to create AI companions: Kindroid and Nomi
Dan’s piece that explains why AI writing will feel real through psychologist D.W. Winnicott’s theory
Every’s piece that explores AI companion app Replika

The NYT’s Kevin Roose has 18 new friends—none of whom are human.

His new friends are AI personas that he made with Noma, Kindroid, and other AI companion apps. There’s fitness guru Jared, therapist Peter, trial lawyer Anna, and over a dozen more.

Kevin talked to them every day for a month, sharing his feelings, asking for parenting advice, and even using them for “fit” checks.

This isn’t the first time Kevin has had an…unusual interaction with an AI persona. A year ago, he was the target of Bing’s chatbot Sydney’s unhinged romantic affections.

Kevin has gone deeper into the world of AI companions than anyone I know. He is a tech columnist at the New York Times, cohost of the Hard Fork podcast, and the author of three books. In this episode, I sat down with Kevin to learn more about his interactions with AI. We dive into:


Why AI companions aren’t just for lonely people or shy teenagers
Why AI personas are better friends than ChatGPT
How AI companions can be used to safely explore different social contexts
The risk of young people relying on AI for friendship
The icks of AI dating and intimacy
How to use AI to articulate what you value in your relationships

This is a must-watch for anyone curious about how AI is changing the way we form relationships.

If you found this episode interesting, please like, subscribe, comment, and share!

Want even more?

Sign up for Every to unlock our ultimate guide to prompting ChatGPT here. It’s usually only for paying subscribers, but you can get it here for free.

To hear more from Dan Shipper:


Subscribe to Every
Follow him on X

Links to resources mentioned in the episode:


Kevin Roose
Hardfork, the podcast that Kevin cohosts
Kevin’s latest book about being human in a world designed for machines
Kevin’s piece in the New York Times about his experience making AI friends
Two of the apps that Kevin used to create AI companions: Kindroid and Nomi
Dan’s piece that explains why AI writing will feel real through psychologist D.W. Winnicott’s theory
Every’s piece that explores AI companion app Replika

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