How I Tested That

David J Bland

Testing your ideas against reality can be challenging. Not everything will go as planned. It’s about keeping an open mind, having a clear hypothesis and running multiple tests to see if you have enough directional evidence to keep going. This is the How I Tested That Podcast, where David J Bland connects with entrepreneurs and innovators who had the courage to test their ideas with real people, in the market, with sometimes surprising results. Join us as we explore the ups and downs of experimentation… together.

  1. 2D AGO

    Dan Olsen | How I Test With Vibe Coding

    Summary In this conversation, David J Bland and Dan Olsen discuss the evolution of product management, the impact of vibe coding, and the importance of cross-functional collaboration. They explore the challenges of prototyping, user research, and the role of AI in product development. The discussion emphasizes the need for strong product management fundamentals and the future of product management in a rapidly changing landscape. Takeaways The awareness of product management has significantly increased over the years.Vibe coding allows for rapid prototyping and testing without heavy technical resources.Cross-functional collaboration is essential for successful product development.User research is becoming more valued in product management.Prototyping should focus on learning rather than just building.AI can assist in generating ideas but lacks judgment in prioritization.The pace of innovation in product tools is accelerating rapidly.Understanding customer problems is crucial for product success.Rushing to high fidelity prototypes can lead to missed opportunities in the problem space.Product management fundamentals will be key in differentiating successful products. Guest Links Website: https://dan-olsen.com/ LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danolsen98/ YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/danolsen Lean Product Meetup: https://www.meetup.com/lean-product/  Vibe Coding Product Brief: https://dan-olsen.com/vibe-coding/ Vibe Coding Spectrum: https://dan-olsen.com/vibe-coding/ The Lean Product Playbook: https://amzn.to/1EYCUdP Struggling to decide which bets deserve more time, money, and people? Join my AI-Assisted Decision Workshop and learn how to use AI to surface assumptions, map risk, and reach a Commit, Correct, or Cut decision in just 3 hours. 👉 Register now on Eventbrite: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/ai-assisted-decision-workshop-commit-correct-or-cut-tickets-1978758230133?aff=oddtdtcreator

    55 min
  2. 11/05/2025

    Scott McLeod | How I Tested A $1B Mattress Company

    Summary In this episode we interview Scott McLeod. Scott is the Chief Brand Officer of Resident, a direct-to-consumer company that designs and sells home furnishings such as mattresses and bedding. They were acquired by Ashley in 2024 for $1 billion. Scott and I chat about his background in design thinking and how it has fueled his passion for experimentation, whether it’s building scrappy MVPs with minimal investment or creating environments where failure is not just accepted, but expected as part of innovation.  He shares how he’s helped scale teams while preserving that test-and-learn mindset, why setting clear success criteria is crucial and how to gracefully let go of ideas that don’t deliver. We also dive into the unique challenges of experimenting with physical products versus digital ones, the role of customer feedback in shaping subjective experiences like comfort, and his optimism for how AI and data-driven decision-making will transform the future of product experimentation. I thoroughly enjoyed reconnecting with Scott since our days back at Neo together, and I’m confident you’ll learn a lot from our conversation in this episode.  Guest Links LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mescottmcleod/Website: https://www.residenthome.com/ Struggling to decide which bets deserve more time, money, and people? Join my AI-Assisted Decision Workshop and learn how to use AI to surface assumptions, map risk, and reach a Commit, Correct, or Cut decision in just 3 hours. 👉 Register now on Eventbrite: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/ai-assisted-decision-workshop-commit-correct-or-cut-tickets-1978758230133?aff=oddtdtcreator

    40 min

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Testing your ideas against reality can be challenging. Not everything will go as planned. It’s about keeping an open mind, having a clear hypothesis and running multiple tests to see if you have enough directional evidence to keep going. This is the How I Tested That Podcast, where David J Bland connects with entrepreneurs and innovators who had the courage to test their ideas with real people, in the market, with sometimes surprising results. Join us as we explore the ups and downs of experimentation… together.