I Hate It Here

Hebba Youssef

If HR is one of the most soul-crushing industries to work in, how come we’re not talking about it more? I Hate it Here is the unflinching podcast where People professionals to talk honestly and openly about HR, sharing best-in-class resources to make the hardest job in the world that little bit easier. Hosted by Hebba Youssef, Chief People Officer at Workweek and creator of the I Hate it Here podcast and newsletter, this show is for HR People who want to get things done right - even if they do feel a bit empty inside from time to time. You’ll hear from industry insiders, not just the same old voices, sharing all the things you’re secretly thinking but never said out loud, digging into real-life examples, and delivering practical solutions and strategies for your people team.

  1. 2d ago

    S14, E3: Just a Girl Standing in Front of Corporate America Begging It to Train Its Managers (with Ashley Herd)

    Your manager has avoided giving feedback for six months, and now they want someone fired by Friday. Guess whose problem that becomes??? This week, I’m joined by Ashley Herd, founder of Manager Method (https://www.managermethod.com), to talk about the managers keeping HR busy and questioning everything!  We get into performance improvement plans, the beloved HR made me do it excuse, and what SHRM’s courtroom drama can teach the rest of us.  I also confess to some questionable moments from my own management era, because unfortunately…self-awareness means remembering.  Come find out why your leadership style might be compared to a pair of deeply uncomfortable pants! --- Your talent data is only as valuable as the decisions it improves. Quantum Workplace connects signals across engagement, performance, development, and recognition, giving HR and people leaders a clear view of what’s happening across their workforce. With more context, clarity, and confidence, leaders can focus on what matters, make stronger people decisions, and build thriving teams. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠quantumworkplace.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to learn more. --- If you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for even more exclusive insider content! --- Follow Ashley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyherd/ Follow Hebba YouTube:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    S14, E3: Just a Girl Standing in Front of Corporate America Begging It to Train Its Managers (with Ashley Herd)
  2. Oct 19

    S14, E2: Somewhere Between Michael Scott and a Cult…There’s an Important Lesson for HR (with Josiah Hernández and RyanMae McAvoy Pepin)

    I invited RyanMae McAvoy Pepin and Josiah Hernández back to talk HR, and somehow we ended up recruiting for a hypothetical cult and debating whether Michael Scott deserves a little credit.  I also made them play a quote guessing game, because we’re determined to have a little fun around here! But between the questionable impressions and pop culture detours, we get into invasive interview questions and why having a life outside work shouldn’t require proof of children. --- Your talent data is only as valuable as the decisions it improves. Quantum Workplace connects signals across engagement, performance, development, and recognition, giving HR and people leaders a clear view of what’s happening across their workforce. With more context, clarity, and confidence, leaders can focus on what matters, make stronger people decisions, and build thriving teams. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠quantumworkplace.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to learn more. --- If you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for even more exclusive insider content! --- Follow RyanMae on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rm80920/ Follow Josiah onLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/josiah23/ Follow Hebba YouTube:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    S14, E2: Somewhere Between Michael Scott and a Cult…There’s an Important Lesson for HR (with Josiah Hernández and RyanMae McAvoy Pepin)
  3. Oct 12

    S14, E1: A Very Professional Review of This Year’s Absolute Bullsh*t (with Jessica Winder)

    We’re back in action, and I gave this season one rule: anything but AI.  Naturally, Jessica Winder and I immediately tested that boundary, but trust me, we have plenty to say about how this year has turned out so far! My fellow Cackle Queen is back to revisit our HR ins and outs, unpack why “job hugging” sounds suspiciously cute for being terrified to quit, and discuss the managers getting promoted with absolutely no training.  There’s also a few work stats that you have to hear to believe! --- Your talent data is only as valuable as the decisions it improves. Quantum Workplace connects signals across engagement, performance, development, and recognition, giving HR and people leaders a clear view of what’s happening across their workforce. With more context, clarity, and confidence, leaders can focus on what matters, make stronger people decisions, and build thriving teams. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠quantumworkplace.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to learn more. --- If you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for even more exclusive insider content! --- Follow Hebba YouTube:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    S14, E1: A Very Professional Review of This Year’s Absolute Bullsh*t (with Jessica Winder)
  4. Sep 14

    S13 E10: My HR Trauma Has Officially Reached the Buffy the Vampire Slayer Metaphor Stage

    I started this solo episode planning to talk about the evolution of HR, and ended up using one of my fav shows, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, to explain why this job can be emotionally unhinged, and suspiciously dependent on one exhausted woman saving everybody.  We’re getting into the mental-health toll of HR, the workplace chaos currently entering the group chat, and why being the chosen one is actually a pretty terrible operating model if you think about it. Come for the interesting HR data, and stay for the Buffy lore… filled with spoilers, FYI! --- With Shapes, people management looks completely different. Think AI agents handling the routine, a secure HR core, and the ability to build any people tool your org needs, just by describing it in plain english in their built in Shapes Vibe studio. If your systems feel stuck in 2015, go check out Shapes at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://shapes.co/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ --- If you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for even more exclusive insider content! --- Follow Hebba YouTube:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Come join Hebba at Safe Space Summit 2026 in Huntington Beach, CA! To learn more, check out:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.safespacesummit.com/

    S13 E10: My HR Trauma Has Officially Reached the Buffy the Vampire Slayer Metaphor Stage
  5. Sep 7

    S13 E9: HR Is Done Cleaning Up These Terrible-Ass AI Rollouts (with Shirley Baumer)

    HR keeps getting handed the mop after someone else’s AI strategy floods the building, and frankly, I’m pretty sure you’re already over it!  I sat down with the wonderful Shirley Baumer, co-founder and CPO at Shapes (https://shapes.co/), to talk about why people leaders should be the ones driving AI transformation, how to develop a builder mindset, and why you don’t need to know how to code to solve the problems making you scream into the mirror every day.  We’re taking the wheel, babes! --- With Shapes, people management looks completely different. Think AI agents handling the routine, a secure HR core, and the ability to build any people tool your org needs, just by describing it in plain english in their built in Shapes Vibe studio. If your systems feel stuck in 2015, go check out Shapes at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://shapes.co/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ --- If you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for even more exclusive insider content! --- Follow Shirley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shirleyjb/ Follow Hebba YouTube:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Come join Hebba at Safe Space Summit 2026 in Huntington Beach, CA! To learn more, check out:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.safespacesummit.com/

    S13 E9: HR Is Done Cleaning Up These Terrible-Ass AI Rollouts (with Shirley Baumer)
  6. Aug 31

    S13 E8: When Your Company Has an AI Tool, but Absolutely No Plan (with Val Jensen)

    AI is already crashing the workplace party, but apparently, the humans were left off the guest list!  Today, I’m joined by attorney and human-centered leadership strategist Val Jensen to talk about biased tools, performative people-first promises, and why letting AI make decisions about employees is a legal and ethical dumpster fire waiting to happen.  We’re also getting into who’s actually responsible when AI causes harm, and why most companies are wildly unprepared, while leadership is sprinting toward the robots.  --- With Shapes, people management looks completely different. Think AI agents handling the routine, a secure HR core, and the ability to build any people tool your org needs, just by describing it in plain english in their built in Shapes Vibe studio. If your systems feel stuck in 2015, go check out Shapes at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://shapes.co/⁠⁠⁠⁠ --- If you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for even more exclusive insider content! --- Follow Val on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/valerie-jensen-jd-she-her-hers/ Follow Hebba YouTube:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Come join Hebba at Safe Space Summit 2026 in Huntington Beach, CA! To learn more, check out:⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.safespacesummit.com/

    S13 E8: When Your Company Has an AI Tool, but Absolutely No Plan (with Val Jensen)
  7. Aug 24

    S13 E7: Your Uncoordinated Org Restructure Is Giving Everyone Trust Issues (with Kaity Jacobsen)

    Change is inevitable, but apparently at some orgs, explaining it to people is optional!  In this episode, I’m joined by Kaity Jacobsen (Director, Talent Engagement at Xactly) to talk about why leaders keep obsessing over all these sexy strategies while treating change management like HR’s annoying little side quest. We get into AI agents, broken trust, typical corporate chaos, and why no robot is ever going to save you from having an actual convo with your employees about any of this stuff. Tragic, I know! With Shapes, people management looks completely different. Think AI agents handling the routine, a secure HR core, and the ability to build any people tool your org needs, just by describing it in plain english in their built in Shapes Vibe studio. If your systems feel stuck in 2015, go check out Shapes at ⁠⁠⁠https://shapes.co/⁠⁠⁠ --- If you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for even more exclusive insider content! --- Follow Kaity on LinkedIn:⁠ https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaityjacobsen/ Follow Hebba YouTube:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Come join Hebba at Safe Space Summit 2026 in Huntington Beach, CA! To learn more, check out:⁠⁠⁠ https://www.safespacesummit.com/

    S13 E7: Your Uncoordinated Org Restructure Is Giving Everyone Trust Issues (with Kaity Jacobsen)
  8. Aug 17

    S13 E6: The AI Confidence Gap Nobody in HR Wants to Admit (with Theresa Fesinstine)

    AI conversations are everywhere right now, but confidence and competence aren't actually moving together, and that gap should worry you more than it does. I'm joined by Theresa Fesinstine, founder of PeoplePower.ai and creator of the AI Fluency Compass, an assessment that over 850 HR leaders have now taken. Turns out about 40% of people who take it present way more confidently than they actually perform. Not great! We get into why HR keeps telling itself it's "not technical enough," the real difference between confidence that's earned and confidence that just performs well in a meeting, and why checking your AI tool settings might be the single most underrated move you can make right now. We also cover agentic AI risk, the pressure to keep up so you don't get left behind, and what it actually looks like to lead your org through this instead of just reacting to it. If you've ever nodded along in a meeting about AI while quietly having no idea what anyone's talking about, this one's for you With Shapes, people management looks completely different. Think AI agents handling the routine, a secure HR core, and the ability to build any people tool your org needs, just by describing it in plain english in their built in Shapes Vibe studio. If your systems feel stuck in 2015, go check out Shapes at ⁠⁠https://shapes.co/⁠⁠ --- If you love I Hate It Here, sign up to Hebba’s newsletter! It’s for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ And if you love the podcast, be sure to check out⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for even more exclusive insider content! --- Follow Theresa on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/theresafesinstine/ Follow Hebba YouTube:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/@ihateit-here/videos⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ LinkedIn:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Twitter:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef⁠⁠⁠⁠ Come join Hebba at Safe Space Summit 2026 in Huntington Beach, CA! To learn more, check out:⁠⁠ https://www.safespacesummit.com/

    S13 E6: The AI Confidence Gap Nobody in HR Wants to Admit (with Theresa Fesinstine)
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If HR is one of the most soul-crushing industries to work in, how come we’re not talking about it more? I Hate it Here is the unflinching podcast where People professionals to talk honestly and openly about HR, sharing best-in-class resources to make the hardest job in the world that little bit easier. Hosted by Hebba Youssef, Chief People Officer at Workweek and creator of the I Hate it Here podcast and newsletter, this show is for HR People who want to get things done right - even if they do feel a bit empty inside from time to time. You’ll hear from industry insiders, not just the same old voices, sharing all the things you’re secretly thinking but never said out loud, digging into real-life examples, and delivering practical solutions and strategies for your people team.

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