100 episodes

The Contrarian Investor podcast gives voice to those who challenge a prevailing narrative in financial markets. Each episode features an interview with a hedge fund manager, investor, economist or other market participant. The goal is to educate all listeners with an interest in asset allocation and ultimately to provide actionable ideas to the institutional investor community.

The Contrarian Investor Podcast Nathaniel E. Baker

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    • 4.2 • 43 Ratings

The Contrarian Investor podcast gives voice to those who challenge a prevailing narrative in financial markets. Each episode features an interview with a hedge fund manager, investor, economist or other market participant. The goal is to educate all listeners with an interest in asset allocation and ultimately to provide actionable ideas to the institutional investor community.

    Stock Market Expectations Getting Ahead of Economic Realities: Bob Elliott, Unlimited

    Stock Market Expectations Getting Ahead of Economic Realities: Bob Elliott, Unlimited

    Bob Elliott of Unlimited rejoins the podcast to discuss his view that stock markets are pricing in a lot of optimism that may not be based on economic realities...
     
    This podcast episode was recorded on Tuesday, May 28, 2024 and made available to premium subscribers the following day. To become a premium subscriber, visit our Substack.

    Content Highlights
    Stock markets are pricing in a lot of optimism. Just how unrealistic is that? (1:19); What is there to indicate the economy could slow this year or even next? (4:34); A recession may be years away rather than months under current conditions. But conditions, as we know, can change quickly... (8:58); There is a precedence to interest rates going up dramatically without it causing an immediate and dramatic entrenchment in economic growth (11:52); Tech stocks might be overvalued but comparisons to the dot-com bubble are unfair and inaccurate -- and may preclude a spectacular bust (16:10); Today's economic expansion is income-driven. Not a result of credit expansion (18:13); What kinds of indicators should investors study to spot a slowdown in this particular type of economic activity? (30:45); Regional banks are for the most part fairly priced at present... (35:50). More Information on the Guest
    Website: UnlimitedFunds.com; Twitter: @BoBEUnlimited; YouTube: @BobEUnlimited.

    • 44 min
    The Specter of Stagflation Still Looms: Ayesha Tariq

    The Specter of Stagflation Still Looms: Ayesha Tariq

    Ayesha Tariq, founder of Macro Visor, rejoins the podcast to discuss her views on the economy, markets, and where investors should look for opportunities.
    This episode was recorded on Tuesday, May 7 and made available to premium subscribers that same day. Become a premium subscriber.

    Content Highlights:
    The macro set-up and why people are talking about stagflation (1:56); The K-shaped economy and the damage being done (3:31); Fed Chair Jerome Powell claims there's no stag and no flation. Is he wrong? (It wouldn't be the first time) (8:50); Faced with this backdrop, what does one do as an investor? (13:03); China: There are still reasons to worry, even though the bleeding from the property market has abated a bit... (15:58); India: long term growth story. Also copper, oil, and Japan (17:11); The guest's favorite areas for opportunity right now: UK and India (21:07); A long-term concern is the fiscal situation in the US (22:00). For more about the guest, visit her firm's website MacroVisor.com or follow her on Twitter/X. 

    • 27 min
    Trend-Following Strategies for the New World Order: Doug Greenig, Florin Court Capital

    Trend-Following Strategies for the New World Order: Doug Greenig, Florin Court Capital

    This episode was recorded April 15, 2024, and was made available to premium subscribers the following day -- without ads or interruptions. More information on premium subscriptions is available on our Substack page.
    Dr. Doug Greenig of Florin Court Capital joins the podcast to discuss his worldview -- one where the US is no longer the sole superpower -- the situation in the Middle East, US fiscal concerns, artificial intelligence, and trends in commodities.
    And of course how this all impacts his trading strategy.
    Content Highlights
    The world has undergone many changes with the US emerging as its lone superpower. That era is over (2:09); China is a legitimate competitor to the US. It's just having a bad moment due to the property market. But China is not going anywhere as an economic or military power (6:07); The guest's trend-following model trades 500 assets and seeks to capture medium-term changes. What he looks for to enter and exit trades (16:52); One trend is lower electricity prices in Europe (19:19); Populism and the latter stage of democratic government make for a potentially bearish outlook for US stocks (27:15); Background on the guest (41:04); Iran is still a force in the Middle East and beyond. Discussion of the weekend drone attack on Israel, which may have been an attempt at making a point (48:40); As Russia's economy illustrates, sanctions are hard to enforce. There may be inherent bias in many pro-Western analysis... (53:03); US fiscal problems are real. The guest says it has "something like five years" before this takes a serious toll. Artificial intelligence may postpone this however (55:45); Hypersonic missiles: One area where Russia and China have an edge over the US (57:45). More Information on the Guest
    LinkedIn; Website: FlorinCourt.com.

    • 1 hr 9 min
    The Trend is Your Friend. Right Now It's Positive: Enrique Abeyta, HX Research

    The Trend is Your Friend. Right Now It's Positive: Enrique Abeyta, HX Research

    This podcast episode was recorded Friday, March 29, 2024 and made available to premium subscribers the next trading day. To become a premium subscriber and take advantage of a host of other benefits, visit our substack.
    Enrique Abeyta of HX Research rejoins the podcast to discuss his (constructive) views on the stock market, why commercial real estate concerns are overdone, and to provide one stock pick -- and it's not Nvidia, though he does discuss that at some length.
    Some mature language is used at a few points. Sensitive listeners should be advised. 
    The guest's microphone setup is significantly better than the host's so don't get discouraged by the host sounding like he's hiding in a cave at the open.
    Content Highlights
    Trends are underrated. Many investors don't respect them or understand what they mean. The current trend is clearly long-term bullish for stocks (2:21); However over the short term there could (probably will) be a pull back -- as appears to be happening the week after recording (5:24); On the whole, however, the outlook is very constructive. So constructive that the guest has only seen this clarity 10 times or less in his 30-year career (12:30); When it comes to the Federal Reserve, there is a strong possibility interest rate policy stays roughly the same... (15:36); Contrarian take: there's no need to worry about commercial real estate: (19:00); Regional banks presented an opportunity a year ago. New York Community Bancorp (NYCB) is not an opportunity now (23:54); Views on Nvidia (NVDA): not super constructive (28:20); One long term idea: Independent power producer Talen Energy (TLNE), owner of a nuclear power plant. The company recently emerged from bankruptcy (34:51). More on the Guest
    Website: HXResearch.net; Twitter/X: @EnriqueAbeyta.

    • 50 min
    Stock Income Will Be Key for the Next Stage of Financial Market History: Daniel Peris

    Stock Income Will Be Key for the Next Stage of Financial Market History: Daniel Peris

    This podcast was released for premium subscribers on March 20, 2024. For more information on premium subscriptions please visit our Substack.
    Financial market historian Daniel Peris joins the podcast to discuss his latest book, The Ownership Dividend, and why the next stage of the investing cycle will be marked by renewed focus on dividends and cash flows.
    Note: The host's mic was a little 'stuffy' for this episode but the guest comes in loud and clear!
    Content Highlights
    Cashflows have become ignored in the marketplace with investors accustomed to speculation over income. That is due to change (2:55); No, this isn't about value versus growth. Dividends and more notably buybacks are everywhere (5:22); Warren Buffett has long said that companies should reinvest in the business rather than pay out dividends. But Buffett is no longer a minority shareholder... (18:30) Background on the guest and unexpected detour into Russia/Ukraine (27:37); Views on different sectors of the stock market from a dividend perspective (36:33); What does the current era of dividend payouts say about the investing cycle? (42:40). More on the Guest
    Website: StrategicDividendInvestor.com; Twitter: @HistoryInvestor; Order the book.

    • 52 min
    Lessons From Financial History: Mark Higgins

    Lessons From Financial History: Mark Higgins

    This podcast episode was recorded Friday, March 1, 2024, and was made available to premium subscribers on March 6. For more information on premium memberships visit our Substack.
    Mark Higgins, author of the new book, Investing in Financial History, joins the podcast to discuss lessons from the past and what period is the most appropriate point of comparison to today's market environment.
    Content Highlights
    What period from the past compares closest to the one we're living through now? It's a combination of several... (1:56); The last time the US -- and Federal Reserve -- battled serious inflation was from 1965 to the early 1980s. Here there are several parallels to today's age... (4:36); The Fed appeared to turn more accommodative in December and January. This may have been a mistake (9:04); Financial history is very much a history of panics, but there has not been a major bank run in the US since the Great Depression (11:51); Portfolios have become increasingly complex without proper consideration of cost -- and risks (15:40); Decentralized currencies aren't new and in fact once characterized the US dollar -- and for the same reason (fear of central banks and fiat currency, etc). That didn't end well... (18:06); Background on the guest and how he came to write the book (22:05); Bubbles and their challenges. Some commonalities include the media as trailing indicator... (27:17); The 180 degree turn on public debt by US public officials (29:36); The US dollar will likely be replaced as global reserve currency one day (33:25). More From the Guest
    Website: EnlightenedInvestor.com; Order the book on Amazon.com; LinkedIn: @MarkHiggins.

    • 38 min

Customer Reviews

4.2 out of 5
43 Ratings

43 Ratings

sprottisawesome ,

Good guests. Good insight. Really annoying announcement/introduction voice.

I learn a little...or a lot....of something from each guest on this podcast, but I am incredibly annoyed by the voice that does the introduction and special announcements.

Nathan Worden ,

Keeps me up to date on what is happening

Contrarian Investor Media is a great briefing to start your morning with. I have become much more aware of the economic data releases that could move the market. Nathaniel does a great job of giving you context around how much the market might care about certain data releases. If you want to get a better idea of what’s happening in the markets, check this podcast out!

Also, guest interviews are great— the guests are always good and Nathaniel asks great questions. Great podcast all around.

DEFELI1 ,

Not contrarian

Bringing somebody from etoro to picture rosy days ahead for them and crypto is not contrarian.

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