271 episodes

How can you become a game changer?
Michael Mogill, Founder and CEO of Crisp, has used his mastery of marketing for lawyers to grow his company to an 8-figure powerhouse. In just a few years, Crisp has helped thousands of attorneys adapt to the new legal landscape, differentiate themselves from the competition, and earn millions in new revenue.
In every episode, you’ll hear from law firm entrepreneurs and market leaders — people who flourish in the face of adversity, challenge the status quo, and define what it means to be a game changer.
We investigate success stories and business growth and scalability strategies that can help you attract your ideal clients. Plus, discover hidden insights and actionable advice on how company culture and employee engagement, marketing and advertising, and management and hiring fit into the big picture.
What do all our guests have in common? These successful attorneys and business owners prove that the key to innovation is a game-changing mindset. If you want to run your law firm like an entrepreneur, achieve a greater ROI, and build a world-class organization that stands the test of time, then you’re in good company.
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For more information, visit https://www.crisp.co/podcast/

The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill Michael Mogill

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    • 5.0 • 399 Ratings

How can you become a game changer?
Michael Mogill, Founder and CEO of Crisp, has used his mastery of marketing for lawyers to grow his company to an 8-figure powerhouse. In just a few years, Crisp has helped thousands of attorneys adapt to the new legal landscape, differentiate themselves from the competition, and earn millions in new revenue.
In every episode, you’ll hear from law firm entrepreneurs and market leaders — people who flourish in the face of adversity, challenge the status quo, and define what it means to be a game changer.
We investigate success stories and business growth and scalability strategies that can help you attract your ideal clients. Plus, discover hidden insights and actionable advice on how company culture and employee engagement, marketing and advertising, and management and hiring fit into the big picture.
What do all our guests have in common? These successful attorneys and business owners prove that the key to innovation is a game-changing mindset. If you want to run your law firm like an entrepreneur, achieve a greater ROI, and build a world-class organization that stands the test of time, then you’re in good company.
Subscribe to the Game Changing Attorney Podcast and get ready to take your business to the next level.
For more information, visit https://www.crisp.co/podcast/

    270. Sean Claggett — Fewer Cases, More Success: How Focused Work Leads to Bigger Wins [Encore Edition]

    270. Sean Claggett — Fewer Cases, More Success: How Focused Work Leads to Bigger Wins [Encore Edition]

    What if you could consistently predict trial outcomes and secure life-changing verdicts for your clients? 

    Sean Claggett has cracked the code. 

    By focusing intensely on a few key cases and harnessing the power of big data and focus groups, he’s transformed the trial landscape, winning multiple eight-figure verdicts. 

    It’s a formula with a proven record of success — allowing them to win multiple eight-figure and life-changing cases for Sean’s clients.

    In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Sean and Michael Mogill discuss:

    The next-level methods to leverage big data for predictable trial verdicts and settlements

    The critical importance of leading by example to cultivate an elite trial team

    The meticulous preparation tactics that set the most successful trial attorneys apart


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    Show Notes:

    02:20 – Sean Claggett's Journey to Becoming a Lawyer
    05:53 – Growing Up and Moving to Vegas
    09:03 – The Vegas Community and Its Resilience
    11:17 – Leadership and Work Ethic in Law
    14:14 – The Making of a Great Trial Lawyer
    19:22 – The Role of Focus Groups in Trial Preparation
    23:35 – The Early Struggles and Entrepreneurial Ventures
    24:40 – Discovering the System for Success
    25:39 – The Turning Point: 2012 and Beyond
    28:39 – The Lowe's Case: A Game Changer
    29:24 – The Importance of Focus Groups
    33:49 – Predicting Verdicts with Data
    40:12 – The Emotional Toll of Trial Law
    43:32 – The Drive to Make a Difference

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    Links & Resources


    Rules of the Road by Rick Friedman

    David Ball on Damages: A Plaintiff’s Attorney’s Guide to Personal Injury and Wrongful Death Cases

    Reptile: The 2009 Manual of the Plaintiff’s Revolution

    Challenged Athletes Foundation

    Republic Services wrongful death trial


    Claggett & Sykes Law Firm 


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    Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include: David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.

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    • 49 min
    269. Jan Dils — Leading the Largest Female-Founded Law Firm in America [Encore Edition]

    269. Jan Dils — Leading the Largest Female-Founded Law Firm in America [Encore Edition]

    Imagine a world without women.

    It's impossible, right? 

    Women are the unsung superheroes in the office, at home, and everywhere in between. Whether it's late nights or early mornings, they relentlessly pursue the respect they deserve — and Jan Dils is leading that charge.

    As the owner of the largest female-founded law firm in America, Jan is committed to changing lives with an unwavering sense of responsibility and resilience.

    In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jan delve into:

    Turning criticism into growth fuel


    Why work-life balance is a myth

    Scaling your impact to leave a lasting legacy




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    Show Notes:

    02:27 – Jan Dils’s origin story
    05:03 – How Jan got thrown into the deep end, trying cases the week she graduated from law school
    06:38 – What gravitated Jan towards Social Security & Disability law
    08:19 – The risks and investments required to run a volume practice
    09:19 – Jan’s establishment as a legal advertising trailblazer
    10:34 – Creating the legendary jingle: “She won’t take no for an answer”
    13:26 – Facing and overcoming sexism in the legal industry
    15:18 – Why the State Supreme Court tried to disbar Jan for marketing
    18:13 – How Jan Dils expanded her law firm outside of West Virginia
    19:00 – Jan’s 15-hour days and the work-life balance myth
    22:05 – Jan’s motivation to grow her law firm despite setbacks and sacrifices
    23:33 – Facing and overcoming the greatest setback of all: a breast cancer diagnosis
    24:49 – How to truly scale a law firm
    27:09 – The importance of culture at Jan Dils, Attorneys at Law
    29:14 – Jan’s advice to female law firm leaders
    31:07 – Jan’s approach to motherhood and definition of success
    33:24 – The Better Human Goal
    34:08 – What being a game changer means to Jan Dils


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    Links & Resources

    Jan Dils, Attorneys at Law

    Crisp

    West Virginia

    Jingle

    Charleston Gazette


    LSAT 


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    • 37 min
    268. AMMA — Resilience in the Face of Uncertainty

    268. AMMA — Resilience in the Face of Uncertainty

    Feeling crushed by life's relentless unpredictability? Brace yourself as we expose the brutal challenges of navigating the unknown and unveil the game changing strategies that will forge unbreakable resilience in the face of chaos.

    In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill are tearing into:

    The razor-thin line between possessing all the information and taking decisive, proactive action


    The critical techniques to respond with cold, hard logic instead of succumbing to emotional turmoil in high-stakes scenarios

    How to dominate uncertainty with unwavering confidence and crystal-clear clarity 



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    Show Notes:

    01:52 – Michael Mogill’s shout-out to YOU
    03:20 – How to get your question answered on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast
    05:08 – Risks to consider and prioritize when making critical business decisions in uncertain times
    07:45 – Ray Dalio’s philosophies on the expected value equation and probability standpoints
    09:55 – Why indecisiveness is weakness
    12:11 – How to condition yourself to respond logically rather than reacting emotionally
    14:06 – How to focus on what you can control (and accept what you can’t)
    17:49 – Why life’s greatest gifts come from experiences of adversity
    19:23 – How Michael Mogill approaches uncertainty in his own business
    21:56 – How to prepare for a Black Swan event
    24:13 – Why investing in preparedness is better than investing in prevention

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    Links & Resources

    YouTube


    Principles by Ray Dalio


    Man’s Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl


    The Miracle Morning by Hal Elrod

    Black Swan Events


    Charlie Munger 


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    Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include: David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.

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    #72 – Mark Manson: The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck

    #168 – Ryan Holiday: The Obstacle Is the Way

    #183 – AMMA: How Great Leaders Make Decisions

    • 28 min
    267. Susan Fowler — Why Motivating People Doesn’t Work

    267. Susan Fowler — Why Motivating People Doesn’t Work

    Think you know how to motivate people? Think again.

    Susan Fowler, renowned leadership consultant, and the best-selling author of Why Motivating People Doesn’t Work…and What Does has spent the last two decades refining the application of motivation science in Fortune 50 companies to small organizations in almost every industry imaginable around the world.

    In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Susan will teach you:

    Why attempting to motivate people is a losing proposition

    The psychological needs that all high-performing team members have

    How to create a working environment that enables you and your team to thrive


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    Show Notes:

    02:51 – Why Susan Fowler wrote Why Motivating People Doesn’t Work… and What Does
    04:47 – The real definition of motivation
    05:31 – Why attempting to motivate people is a losing proposition, no matter your resources
    06:49 – The difference between optimal and sub-optimal motivation
    10:19 – Why certain incentives can be the “junk food” of motivation
    13:45 – The three psychological needs that all people have (autonomy, relatedness, and competence)
    19:39 – The importance of providing choices
    22:40 – How to foster the physiological need for connection in a working environment
    24:11 – How to determine what your and your team members’ values are
    27:46 – What to do when your values as a leader are not aligned with your team members’ values
    30:18 – Why all of our values are subject to evolution
    31:00 – How to make your team more competent
    34:48 – Why asking someone “What motivates you?” is a bad idea
    38:22 – Why money does motivate people, but not in the way that you think
    43:41 – Why leaders should ask what they want for their people (not just what they want from them)
    47:33 – How to overcome “Quiet Quitting” and create an environment where people want to stay
    50:44 – What being a game changer means to Susan Fowler

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    Links & Resources


    Why Motivating People Doesn’t Work… and What Does by Susan Fowler

    YouTube

    B.F. Skinner

    Operant Conditioning


    Master Your Motivation: Three Scientific Truths for Achieving Your Goals by Susan Fowler

    Self-determination theory

    Dr. Edward Deci

    Dr. Richard Ryan

    IBM

    Garry Ridge

    Dr. Jacques Forest

    Drea Zigarmi

    Mark Cuban

    Anne Brafford

    The Prevalence of Substance Use and Other Mental Health Concerns Among American Attorneys

    Binge Drinking by Occupation Groups among Currently Employed U.S. Adults

    2022 Report on the State of the Legal Market: Despite a strong year, numerous & growing challenges confront law firms

    Institute For Well-Being In Law

    McKinsey & Company: Winning back your workers


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    #230 AMMA – How to Achieve Bigger Goals

    • 54 min
    266. Dr. Ayelet Fishbach — Get It Done: Surprising Lessons From the Science of Motivation [Encore Edition]

    266. Dr. Ayelet Fishbach — Get It Done: Surprising Lessons From the Science of Motivation [Encore Edition]

    Dr. Ayelet Fishbach, the Jeffrey Breakenridge Keller Professor of Behavioral Science and Marketing at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business, is an expert in driving behavioral change. She's even authored a book on the subject.

    In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Dr. Fishbach delves into the realities of behavioral change, discussing:

    The distinction between self-control and willpower

    The influence of our surroundings on our actions

    How setbacks and failures can boost our motivation



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    Show Notes:

    02:34 – Why Dr. Ayelet Fishbach wrote Get It Done
    03:32 – The essential ingredients to successful behavior change
    05:02 – Why your goals should feel more like aspirations than chores
    07:02 – The difference between “Do” goals and “Do Not” goals
    09:19 – The dangers of setting abstract goals
    11:00 – The power of numerical targets
    13:23 – How to know when your goal is too optimistic
    15:32 – When it makes sense to use an incentive structure to support goal achievement
    18:06 – How to determine if you’re using the right incentive
    20:43 – How intrinsic motivation impacts the likelihood of achieving your goals
    24:38 – The Goal Gradient Effect (how progress impacts our motivation)
    27:45 – Why you should keep the “middle” phase as short as possible
    30:31 – How to reframe negative feedback as an effective means of making progress
    34:25 – Applying Angela Duckworth’s research on grit to motivation and achieving goals
    36:35 – The role of self-control in sticking to your goals
    39:39 – How your willpower and your environment impact your self-control
    43:04 – How to juggle multiple goals
    46:12 – The role of patience in sticking with and achieving goals
    48:01 – How your heroes and anti-role models can motivate you to achieve your goals
    52:05 – What being a game changer means to Dr. Ayelet Fishbach
     

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    Links & Resources


    Get It Done by Dr. Ayelet Fishbach

    Angela Duckworth


    Grit by Angela Duckworth 


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    • 55 min
    265. Jessica Mogill — Streamlined Operations: Relentless Execution

    265. Jessica Mogill — Streamlined Operations: Relentless Execution

    Are you grinding in your office, feeling productive, and then looking up to realize it’s 6pm and today’s job is nowhere near done?

    Got a team in place to execute the day-to-day work but their quality and results are far from consistent?

    Or are you a visionary leader chock full of ideas but just can’t get your team to move fast enough and actually act on them?

    If you answered “Yes” to any of these questions, this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Jessica Mogill — Head of Coaching Strategy and operational mastermind — is for you.

    In just 25 minutes, you’ll gain the insights you need to move from “How?” to “DONE!”
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    Key Quotes:

    “‘Urgency fixes problems — importance solves them for good.”

    “Inspect what you expect from your team.”

    “Greatness lies in effective implementation, not just vision.”



    In this episode, you’ll learn:

    How to determine what projects and tasks are really worth your time

    Why creating a process is half the battle

    How to execute relentlessly and ensure nothing falls through the cracks

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    Show Notes:

    03:06 – Why you, as the law firm owner, do NOT have to manage processes and operations
    04:29 – How to streamline your workflow and focus on high-impact activities
    06:55 – Why Post-it Notes are not a scalable project management tool
    08:17 – How to shift from a task-management mindset to a priority-management mindset
    10:14 – How to standardize client interactions and ensure every client receives the same level of care and attention
    13:04 – How to keep a pulse on your firm’s caseload with thousands of active cases
    16:41 – How to empower your team to turn your ideas into executed operations and results
    19:31 – Why you must set clear expectations before handing off a project 
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    Links & Resources

    Evernote

    Todoist

    ClickUp

    Slack

    Walt Disney

    Salesforce

    Big Hero 6

    Kolbe A™ Index

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    • 25 min

Customer Reviews

5.0 out of 5
399 Ratings

399 Ratings

AguilarJustice ,

Inspiring

I am hooked on this podcast, especially the AMMA/AJMA segments. Michael is a great interviewer and doesn’t interrupt or insert himself with his guests. The AMMA/AJMA segments are fantastic! Their long enough for a short commute, informative, and motivates you to strive to be a game changer!

Wyant Law ,

Very informative

I really enjoy this podcast for the diverse guests and topics they cover that really help with all aspects of running a law firm.

Chris Wyant, Wyant Law, 11397 Lantern Road, Fishers, IN 46038

cr1288 ,

Add to the rotation

Great podcast filled with tons of thought provoking guests. It’s a good blend of legal and leadership/big picture topics that translate to other industries. Definitely recommend to add to your pod rotation.

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