The Deep End by On Deck is a podcast where visionary builders, creators, and experts discuss world-changing ideas. We skip the surface level and go in depth into ideas that matter including the futures of commerce, higher education, art, governance, longevity, and more with some of the most exciting figures in these fields. The Deep End is hosted by Marshall Kosloff and produced by On Deck—where top talent go to accelerate their ideas and careers. Visit ideas.beondeck.com for show notes and additional essays.
Venture Stories: How Royal is Transforming the Artist-Fan Relationship
JD Ross (@justindross) and Justin Blau (@3LAU), co-founders of Royal, join Erik Torenberg and co-host Ian Cinnamon for this episode of Venture Stories web3 series. Takeaways:
- Royal stems from their vision to invest in talent early on.
- Streaming increased by 60-70x in about 5 years from 2015 on.
- The barrier to entry for artists is much lower — they no longer need a studio, they just need a laptop.
- Royal is trying to enable the fan-artist relationship to be more of a partnership.
- When fans own a part of an artist’s song, they are tied for life.
- Justin has sold a ton of tickets in his career but he has zero idea of who those fans are and doesn’t have the ability to contact them. The data layer built into Royal helps artists connect with their fans.
AI Companionship with Replika's Eugenia Kuyda
Eugenia Kuyda is the founder and CEO of Replika, an AI companion company.
Our conversation today centers around the different use-cases of AI, from task-oriented chatbots to emotionally-supportive AI companionship. We delve into the current state of conversational tech, including how chatbots can become good listeners, and why Replika used a mixture of scripted retrievals and generative AI models for their product. We also talk about the differences between an AI companion, virtual assistant, and chatbots.
We also discussed the past and future of AI and chatbots. Eugenia explains why task-oriented chatbots like a restaurant booking bot she had worked on previously didn’t catch on in the past, and the future she envisions where you can have an AI co-pilot of your life, like Jarvis from Iron Man, and how this can interact with her conception of the metaverse which she calls the “embodied internet”.
This is a great episode for anyone who’s interested in possible futures of how AI can become a part of our lives, not only in helping us do things but in supporting our emotional and social lives.
Venture Stories: Labor Marketplaces with Traba's Mike Shebat
Today, we’re syndicating an episode from the Village Global podcast hosted by On Deck co-CEO Erik Torenberg. The guest on the show is Mike Shebat - CEO & Co-founder of Traba and a member of Forbes 30 Under 30. Mike participated in the 8th cohort of our On Deck Founder fellowship. He and the team at traba recently closed a $20M to match contractors with events and warehouse work. He met one of his co-founders, Akshay, through On Deck. Prior to starting Traba, Mike was a founding member of the Uber Eats team. For more stories like Mike’s, check out beondeck.com/stories
The Network State Revisited with Balaji Srinivasan
A year ago, we launched The Deep End with Balaji Srinivasan as one of our first three guests. In the episode, he discussed the impending arrival of The Network State. Flash forward to this Monday on the fourth of July when Balaji released his book “The Network State: How to Start a New Country.”
In a single sentence, a network state is a highly aligned online community with a capacity for collective action that crowdfunds territory around the world and eventually gains diplomatic recognition from pre-existing states.
In this episode, Saagar Enjeti (another past guest of the show) and Marshall revisit some of the themes from last year’s Deep End episode and try to better understand Balaji’s frameworks for understanding the futures of tech and nation states. Let’s dive in to this syndicated episode from The Realignment, Marshall's other podcast.
Driving Better Health with Roundtrip's Mark Switaj
Mark Switaj is co-founder & CEO of Roundtrip Health. Roundtrip is driving better health by providing a full suite of non emergent transportation options to patients in different care settings across the country.
After exploring the India and health tech market in India last week, we wanted to revisit healthcare in the US. Today’s conversation is about social determinants of health. Social determinants of health (SDOH) are the conditions in the environments where people are born, live, learn, work, play, worship, and age that affect a wide range of health, functioning, and quality-of-life outcomes and risks.
Roundtrip specifically is focusing on transportation - 4 million people miss appointments every year because of a transportation barrier. But Mark is able to speak to how organizations more broadly must lean on data insights in order to improve health outcomes.
We also talk about how the pandemic has affected the domestic health tech and telehealth landscapes. Mark’s comments echo some of the observations that Nikhil Krishnan highlighted in our episode on overcoming the six stages of health tech grief that we released back in December.
Building Health Tech in India with Loop Health's Amrit Singh
Amrit Singh is a co-founder of Loop Health, the fastest-growing health insurance startup in India.
Our discussion today is about what it’s like to be a founder in India, and what the startup ecosystem there looks like relative to the US. India is an interesting paradox because although it’s a massive country in terms of population which contains almost 1 in 5 living people, that doesn’t always equate to huge market sizes in terms of available spend.
We also talk about the state of healthcare in India in a world where medical inflation is leading to the cost of care doubling every five years even though quality isn’t getting 2X better, and how the fee-for-service model perpetuates perverse incentives in healthcare all around the world. We discussed Loop’s mission to help change this with a philosophy around value-based healthcare that focuses on preventing sickness instead of reacting to it.
This episode is for anyone interested in company-building in emerging markets like India, or for those just looking for valuable insights on being a founder and what it takes to succeed. Let’s dive in.
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I rarely write reviews but this podcast should be at the top of your rotation. Practical explorations of emerging technologies, behaviours, and industry with really smart people resulting in smart conversations. Great work.
Simply superb content curated and presented perfectly.
Love Marshall’s work. Got here from Rising -> BP -> realignment to here. Keep it up!!