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Every Friday and Sunday, Slate’s popular daily news podcast What Next brings you TBD, a clear-eyed look into the future. From fake news to fake meat, algorithms to augmented reality, Lizzie O’Leary is your guide to the tech industry and the world it’s creating for us to live in.

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Every Friday and Sunday, Slate’s popular daily news podcast What Next brings you TBD, a clear-eyed look into the future. From fake news to fake meat, algorithms to augmented reality, Lizzie O’Leary is your guide to the tech industry and the world it’s creating for us to live in.

Listen on Apple Podcasts
Requires subscription and macOS 11.4 or higher

    Meet the Trump Campaign’s A.I. Guy

    Meet the Trump Campaign’s A.I. Guy

    You might not know Brad Parscale by name, but you know his work: he was the digital campaign operative behind Donald Trump’s 2016 presidential victory. This election cycle, he’s back—and advising conservatives on how to utilize A.I. in their campaigns. 

    Guest: Garance Burke, global investigative journalist for the Associated Press.

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    Podcast production by Evan Campbell, Patrick Fort, Cheyna Roth and Anna Phillips.
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    • 21 min
    Can California Save Journalism?

    Can California Save Journalism?

    The California Journalism Preservation Act would make companies like Google and Meta pay publishers for the news content appearing in their feeds and search results—and force news organizations to spend that money on their journalists. How have similar laws worked in Canada and Australia? And could it solve journalism’s on-going revenue problem?

    Guest: Matt Pearce, former LA Times journalist, the president of Media Guild of the West.


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    • 23 min
    Bird Flu—It’s in Milk?

    Bird Flu—It’s in Milk?

    Bird flu isn’t new, you may even remember past outbreaks. But showing up in milk? 

    Is America ready if it leaps to spreading among humans?

    Guest: Katelyn Jetelina, epidemiologist, senior advisor to the CDC 

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    • 25 min
    The Failures of ‘Organic’ Farming

    The Failures of ‘Organic’ Farming

    There are regulations regarding how farm animals are transported, how they’re auctioned, how they’re slaughtered—but when they’re living on the farm? That’s where things get cloudy. 

    Guest: Annie Lowrey, journalist writing on politics and economic policy for The Atlantic.

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    • 27 min
    So ... Is TikTok Banned?

    So ... Is TikTok Banned?

    The TikTok ban that has been floating around Washington since the last administration has been signed into law. What does that mean for users, creators and the court battles ahead?

    Guest: 
    Louise Matsakis, reporter covering tech and China.
    Dillon White, TikToker under the handle @dadchats

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    • 22 min
    The Internet Archive Endangered

    The Internet Archive Endangered

    From the Wayback Machine to the mass-digitization of the history of Aruba, the Internet Archive is a non-profit doing valuable work. But some of its other projects—a pandemic-era lending library and the ongoing digitalization of 78 rpm records—have led to lawsuits now threatening the future of this repository of the past. 

    Guest: Kate Knibbs, senior writer at Wired.

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    • 23 min

Customer Reviews

4.4 out of 5
223 Ratings

223 Ratings

semipenguin ,

I love this podcast, but …

It’s played in What Next? also, so I decided to unsubscribe, so I wouldn’t have the same episode show up on my feed. Lizzie O’Leary is awesome. I used to enjoy hearing her in Marketplace. I’m happy to here her again

FuuuuuuckThisGame ,

Too much ads

Sick

ASobering ,

🔥🤖🔥🤖🔥

This show has quickly become a favorite in my feed! I'm consistently impressed by the engaging conversations that Lizzie leads, and the insightful content in each and every episode. I truly learn something new every time I listen!

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