50 episodes

Have you ever wondered what happens when women take off their heels for the day and unwind with a glass of red or a finger or two of whiskey? What stories would they tell? What meetings have they walked into unannounced to take back the power?

If These Heels Could Talk takes you behind the scenes with two women in the business world who have seen it all. They’ve been at the bottom of the ladder and the top of the ladder. They’ve been underestimated and they’ve had their ideas stolen. And they’ve also broken through the glass ceiling and started their own successful businesses.

If you’ve ever wanted to learn about entrepreneurship and empowerment as a woman in business without all the frills and the lies, this podcast was created for you. Michelle and JoyGenea take off the uncomfortable heels, the lipstick, the pantyhose, the bra with the underwire poking out, and they give it to you straight. Learn everything you need to know about taking your rightful place as a woman of power and importance from two women who have experienced the ups and the downs of being a woman in business. Find your voice and gain your footing in the business world as they recount both stories of horror and of triumph over their decades of experience.

If These Heels Could Talk JoyGenea Schumer and Michelle Henderson

    • Entrepreneurship
    • 5.0 • 4 Ratings

Have you ever wondered what happens when women take off their heels for the day and unwind with a glass of red or a finger or two of whiskey? What stories would they tell? What meetings have they walked into unannounced to take back the power?

If These Heels Could Talk takes you behind the scenes with two women in the business world who have seen it all. They’ve been at the bottom of the ladder and the top of the ladder. They’ve been underestimated and they’ve had their ideas stolen. And they’ve also broken through the glass ceiling and started their own successful businesses.

If you’ve ever wanted to learn about entrepreneurship and empowerment as a woman in business without all the frills and the lies, this podcast was created for you. Michelle and JoyGenea take off the uncomfortable heels, the lipstick, the pantyhose, the bra with the underwire poking out, and they give it to you straight. Learn everything you need to know about taking your rightful place as a woman of power and importance from two women who have experienced the ups and the downs of being a woman in business. Find your voice and gain your footing in the business world as they recount both stories of horror and of triumph over their decades of experience.

    Business Pivot...Again

    Business Pivot...Again

    The time has come, the walrus said, to talk of many things. Of shoes and ships and pandemic effects on our businesses. Welcome, everyone, to the third wave. Here in the midwest, we’re experiencing quite the surge, with a ton of new cases and, unfortunately, hospitalizations and loss of life. 
     
    What is the impact on business? Outwardly, it’s different for different industries and different companies. But in reality, we’re all on different levels of stress and anxiety overload. This impacts areas of a business owner’s world - employees, operations, budgets, and personal life - very differently.
     
    Listen in as Michelle and JoyGenea discuss the impact of the third wave and how they’re pivoting business...Again.

    • 32 min
    Active vs. Passive Decisions

    Active vs. Passive Decisions

    Business is dynamic and so are decisions - as circumstances change, our decision-making has to change as well. Are there decisions you’re making passively? That is, decisions you’re making by simply allowing the status quo to continue or allowing someone in your organization to ‘take care of it’ without forethought or proper compensation?
     
    This happens in our personal lives all the time - partners negotiate who is going to be a primary parent to their children at different times (drop-offs, pick-ups, emergency calls) as well as who is going to be responsible for different tasks at home. That is, partners negotiate the work of living: dishes, laundry, trash, calling the pest control guy because there are raccoons in the attic again. Often, partnerships negotiate these responsibilities passively, with one party simply doing the work and the other person not even seeing the way the work benefits them. This leads to resentment and contention - all of which can be avoided with open communication and negotiation.
     
    The same thing happens in your business when Jan from accounting is the only person who cleans out the breakroom refrigerator or coordinates staff birthday cakes. It might seem like the stakes are pretty low here, but a year or two of unacknowledged labor will cause problems. Michelle and JoyGenea discuss what you can do to be more active in decision making and how to prevent these issues from creating resentment and undermining your team’s culture.

    • 23 min
    Letting It Go

    Letting It Go

    Recorded Pre-Pandemic and still, if not more, relevant today than in 2019.
    Why is it that when someone sells a business, people feel like the business failed? What is your business exit strategy? Small businesses are personal and our personal feelings color our expectations of others.
     
    No one lives forever, and no business goes on forever. So what does your ultimate transition look like? To quote every insurance commercial ever, Have you planned for the unexpected? Denial gets you nowhere. Recognition of reality is key to successful transitions.
     
    Proactive or forced, business transitions are challenging. Selling, ending, stepping back, get your 6 trusted advisors. Who are those advisors? Besides the attorney and accountant, those advisors are key to a successful transition.
     
    Michelle and JoyGenea talk about limits, preparation, and making decisions in advance. And how to manage internal and external expectations along the way.

    • 32 min
    The Ugly Side of Beauty

    The Ugly Side of Beauty

    Numerous studies have shown how attractiveness can help people get ahead in their careers. In this episode, JoyGenea and Michelle discuss a new study that explores the drawbacks of beauty. Spolier alert: Those drawbacks disproportionately affect women. 
    As two women who do not identify as particularly beautiful, both JoyGenea and Michelle question their own responses to themselves and other women in their lives. Why might this bias exist in the first place? How can we can address our own judgments and assertions so we don’t contribute to this bias?

    • 38 min
    Riding the Advice Bus

    Riding the Advice Bus

    Advice isn’t always welcome, even if it’s requested. It can make us defensive and angry, even if it’s true. We can’t always see the truth through those emotions. Even when we ask for advice, it can hurt. And sometimes, great advice from great people isn’t in agreement. What do we do then? How can advice help us make decisions if it’s not consistent?
     
    Join in as JoyGenea and Michelle discuss advice and feedback - solicited and unsolicited, from friends and from strangers, welcome and unwelcome.

    • 25 min
    Business Plans Rule The Day

    Business Plans Rule The Day

    The idea of writing a business plan fills some entrepreneurs with dread, some with excitement, and some with dogged determination. Depending on who you talk to, a business plan could be a 120 page graduate thesis or a single page outline. But the purpose of a business plan goes beyond gaining start up funding. The purpose of a business plan is to help you make decisions. Which, of course, means you need one and need to keep it updated. 
     
    Michelle and JoyGenea talk about the uses for a business plan - the things that make the time and energy actually worth spending. Not to mention how you can prioritize, organize, and think about this living document for your business.

    • 27 min

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