Industrial Cybersecurity Insider

Industrial Cybersecurity Insider
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Industrial Cybersecurity Insider offers a thorough look into the field of industrial cybersecurity for manufacturing and critical infrastructure. The podcast delves into key topics, including industry trends, policy changes, and groundbreaking innovations. Each episode will feature insights from key influencers, policy makers, and industry leaders. Subscribe and tune in weekly to stay in the know on everything important in the industrial cybersecurity world!

  1. 15H AGO

    Two Major Cybersecurity Shifts the Industry Isn't Prepared For with Simon Chassar

    Dino Busalachi sits down with Simon Chassar, former Chief Revenue Officer at Claroty and current OT cybersecurity advisor and investor, to explore the evolution and future of industrial cybersecurity. Simon shares insights from his decade-long journey in the space, discussing how OT asset visibility has become commoditized and why the industry is experiencing two major shifts: moving right toward threat-led SOC services and perimeter protection, and moving left toward secure-by-design approaches and attack simulation. They dive into the persistent challenge of self-performing versus partnering with specialized integrators, the critical skills shortage commanding 30-40% salary premiums, and why AI is both accelerating security challenges and offering new solutions. Simon reveals how private equity firms are finally prioritizing OT cybersecurity at the board level, discusses the emerging OT SOC landscape, and explains why the traditional IT security budget model is failing operational technology environments. The conversation addresses the disconnect between IT leadership and the OT ecosystem, the proliferation of unmanaged remote access technologies, and the urgent need for manufacturers to engage their trusted system integrators and OEMs as cybersecurity partners before the next major incident occurs. Chapters: (00:00:00) - Meet Simon : From Claroty's Hypergrowth to OT Security's Next Chapter(00:02:00) - The Commoditization of OT Asset Visibility(00:04:00) - Two Major Industry Shifts: Right and Left(00:07:00) - The Self-Performing Problem: Why OT Security Becomes Shelfware(00:10:00) - IT/OT Convergence and the Skills Gap Crisis(00:13:00) - Secure by Design and the AI Leapfrog(00:15:00) - AI Uncovers Hidden OT Vulnerabilities and Risks(00:18:00) - Funding Models and Private Equity's Cybersecurity Awakening(00:22:00) - Why the OT Ecosystem Must Drive Its Own Security Strategy(00:25:00) - M&A Activity and Consolidation in OT Cybersecurity(00:27:00) - The Rise of OT SOCs and MSP Partnerships Links And Resources: Want to Sponsor an episode or be a Guest? Reach out here.Industrial Cybersecurity Insider on LinkedInCybersecurity & Digital Safety on LinkedInBW Design Group CybersecurityDino Busalachi on LinkedInCraig Duckworth on LinkedIn Thanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Industrial Cybersecurity Insider? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube to leave us a review!

    31 min

  2. MAR 16

    The Connected Plant Floor: What S4X26 Revealed

    Craig and Dino recap their experience at S4X26, the leading global OT cybersecurity conference in Miami. They discuss the conference's "connected" theme and how AI is creating an inflection point in industrial cybersecurity, driving unprecedented connectivity between IT and OT environments. The hosts explore the challenges of the "silver tsunami" as experienced engineers retire, how AI-powered tools are being embedded directly into edge devices and industrial products from vendors like Cisco and Fortinet, and why the regulatory landscape in Europe is advancing faster than other regions. They emphasize the importance of connecting with peers and partners in the OT security community, highlight key vendors and technologies showcased at the event, and explain why both IT and OT professionals should attend S4X together to bridge the knowledge gap. The episode concludes with details about next year's expanded conference in Tampa, February 8-11. Chapters: (00:00:00) - Random Encounter with Team USA Hockey in Miami(00:01:00) - S4X26 Conference Kickoff: The "Connected" Theme(00:03:00) - AI as the Inflection Point for OT Connectivity(00:05:00) - AI Embedded in Edge Devices and Vendor Technologies(00:07:00) - First-Time Attendee Experiences and Key Takeaways(00:10:00) - Europe's Cyber Resiliency Act and Regulatory Advancements(00:12:00) - Vendor Presence and the OT Technology Marketplace(00:14:00) - S4X27 Moving to Tampa: February 8-11, 2027(00:16:00) - AI's Role in Addressing the Silver Tsunami(00:18:00) - Final Thoughts: Why IT and OT Teams Should Attend Together Links And Resources: Want to Sponsor an episode or be a Guest? Reach out here.Industrial Cybersecurity Insider on LinkedInCybersecurity & Digital Safety on LinkedInBW Design Group CybersecurityDino Busalachi on LinkedInCraig Duckworth on LinkedIn Thanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Industrial Cybersecurity Insider? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube to leave us a review!

    20 min

  3. MAR 11

    The Hidden Cost of Siloed OT Security Tools

    As we look back, Craig and Dino tackle a critical disconnect in industrial cybersecurity: the failure to share OT security tool data with the people who actually need it. They explore why IT teams often purchase and deploy OT IDS platforms without engaging plant floor teams, system integrators, and OEMs who are actively working in manufacturing environments. The conversation reveals that 85% of data collected by these tools is meant for OT teams to act on, yet it rarely reaches them. They discuss the consequences of this siloed approach—including system integrators bringing their own tools to fill the gap—and provide practical advice on achieving true IT/OT convergence. The episode emphasizes the importance of working with partners who can "build the car" rather than just "sell the car," and challenges organizations to evaluate whether they're truly practicing IT/OT convergence or just paying lip service to it. Chapters: (00:00:00) - The Data Sharing Problem in OT Cybersecurity(00:01:00) - Why System Integrators Can't Access Security Tool Data(00:04:00) - Who's Keeping the Data and Why(00:08:00) - The IT/OT Oil and Water Problem(00:11:00) - When System Integrators Bring Their Own Tools(00:14:00) - Questions to Ask Your Cybersecurity Partners(00:17:00) - The Car Analogy: Buyers vs. Builders(00:19:00) - Who Asset Owners Really Trust(00:21:00) - The Three-Legged Stool of OT Security(00:23:00) - The Path to True IT/OT Convergence Links And Resources: Want to Sponsor an episode or be a Guest? Reach out here.Industrial Cybersecurity Insider on LinkedInCybersecurity & Digital Safety on LinkedInBW Design Group CybersecurityDino Busalachi on LinkedInCraig Duckworth on LinkedIn Thanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Industrial Cybersecurity Insider? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube to leave us a review!

    25 min

  4. MAR 2

    The Blind Spots Putting Manufacturers at Risk: WEF 2026 Global Cybersecurity Outlook

    LuRae Lumpkin, Producer of Industrial Cybersecurity Insider, sits down with industrial cybersecurity expert Dino Busalachi to break down the 2026 World Economic Forum Global Cybersecurity Outlook Report and what it really means for manufacturers. While the report surveyed nearly a thousand CEOs, CIOs, and CISOs, Dino reveals a critical blind spot: industrial control systems and OT environments are being left dangerously exposed. They discuss how AI is becoming a double-edged sword for attackers and defenders, why supply chain vulnerabilities remain unaddressed, the shocking lack of cybersecurity skills on plant floors, and why most companies still aren't conducting incident response exercises. Dino shares real-world insights from working in nearly 2,000 plants over four decades, explaining why IT and OT remain disconnected, how remote access creates massive security gaps, and why outdated equipment with decades-old vulnerabilities sits unpatched in critical manufacturing environments. The conversation reveals that while enterprises focus on IT security, the plant floor—where revenue is actually generated—remains critically vulnerable, with potentially catastrophic consequences for businesses, supply chains, and even national GDP. Chapters: (00:00:00) - Introduction and Overview of WEF 2026 Cybersecurity Report (00:01:00) - Where Cybersecurity Funding Actually Goes: IT vs OT Reality (00:03:00) - The Myth of Disconnected Legacy Equipment (00:05:00) - AI as a Double-Edged Sword in Industrial Environments (00:08:00) - The Vulnerability Crisis: Thousands of Unpatched Systems (00:09:00) - Third-Party and Supply Chain Security Gaps (00:12:00) - Remote Access: The Hidden Attack Vector (00:14:00) - Critical Supplier Dependencies and Decentralized OT (00:15:00) - The Skills Gap: Why Industrial Cybersecurity Expertise is Scarce (00:19:00) - The Shocking Truth About Incident Response Exercises (00:22:00) - Real-World Impact: When Manufacturers Get Hit (00:24:00) - Getting All Stakeholders in the Same Room (00:28:00) - Insurance vs Prevention: The True Cost of Cyber Incidents (00:29:00) - Final Thoughts: Who Should Own OT Cybersecurity? Links And Resources: Want to Sponsor an episode or be a Guest? Reach out here.Industrial Cybersecurity Insider on LinkedInCybersecurity & Digital Safety on LinkedInBW Design Group CybersecurityDino Busalachi on LinkedInCraig Duckworth on LinkedIn Thanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Industrial Cybersecurity Insider? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube to leave us a review!

    32 min

  5. FEB 25

    IT SOC vs OT SOC How & Why They’re Different

    Craig and Dino tackle the critical differences between IT and OT Security Operations Centers, revealing why traditional IT-centric SOCs are failing to protect manufacturing environments. Drawing from real-world examples, including a global beverage company that discovered they were only monitoring one-third of their OT assets, the hosts expose the fundamental disconnect between IT security teams and operational technology environments. They discuss why IT SOCs struggle with OT visibility, the challenges of asset inventory in dynamic manufacturing environments, and the critical importance of localization in security operations. The conversation covers practical barriers like line changeovers, PLC modifications, remote access vulnerabilities, and the need for OT-specific incident response protocols. Craig and Dino emphasize that effective OT security requires IT teams to become embedded in plant operations, working collaboratively with OEMs and system integrators, and understanding the unique operational context of manufacturing assets. This episode is essential listening for CISOs, plant managers, and security professionals trying to bridge the IT-OT security gap. Chapters: (00:00:00) - The Two-Thirds Problem: When Your SOC Can't See Your Plant Floor(00:01:00) - The OT SOC Asset Visibility Problem: A Case Study(00:03:00) - Why IT SOCs Can't Manage OT Assets(00:05:00) - Line Changeovers and Operational Context(00:07:00) - First Responders and Incident Response Challenges(00:10:00) - The WannaCry Response Gap(00:12:00) - Asset Inventory and Baseline Challenges(00:15:00) - Incident Response and Phone Trees(00:17:00) - Organizational Accountability Problems(00:19:00) - Greenfield Opportunities and Standardization(00:22:00) - The IT-OT Collaboration Challenge(00:24:00) - Think Global, Act Local: Embedding IT in Plants Links And Resources: Want to Sponsor an episode or be a Guest? Reach out here.Industrial Cybersecurity Insider on LinkedInCybersecurity & Digital Safety on LinkedInBW Design Group CybersecurityDino Busalachi on LinkedInCraig Duckworth on LinkedIn Thanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Industrial Cybersecurity Insider? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube to leave us a review!

    26 min

  6. FEB 17

    Your OT Cybersecurity Strategy Is Failing: Here's Why

    Dino and Craig reunite to tackle the shifts occuring in industrial cybersecurity in 2026. They discuss how OT-focused IDS software companies are shifting away from managed services to partner with systems integrators who understand the plant floor. The conversation explores the challenges manufacturers face—from aging infrastructure spanning decades to flat layer-2 networks that give remote vendors unrestricted access. They emphasize that IT departments cannot effectively manage OT assets they don't own or understand, especially when dealing with equipment older than their cybersecurity staff. The episode covers the pitfalls of penetration testing in live manufacturing environments, the reality of shadow IT versus shadow OT, and why EDR solutions struggle in control system environments. Dino and Craig stress the importance of treating cybersecurity as a marathon rather than a sprint, starting with basic asset inventory and microsegmentation. They call on manufacturing leaders to stop deferring to IT for OT security, attend industry-specific conferences like S4X26, and partner with systems integrators who have deep automation expertise. With threats mounting, the time for action is now—not next quarter. Chapters: (00:00:00) - Welcome & What We've Been Up To(00:00:48) - The Big Shift: Why OT IDS Companies Are Backing Away From Managed Services(00:03:00) - The Shelfware Problem: When Security Tools Sit Unused(00:04:12) - Why Pen Testing Can Be Disruptive (or Dangerous) in Manufacturing Environments(00:05:54) - The Reality of Legacy Infrastructure: Equipment Older Than Your Cybersecurity Team(00:07:43) - Who Can Actually Patch Your Control Systems?(00:09:04) - Supply Chain Vulnerabilities: You're Only as Strong as Your Weakest Link(00:11:01) - The Last Mile Challenge: Asset Inventory, Microsegmentation & Starting Small(00:13:55) - The Shelfware to Tool-Switching Problem: Why Companies Are Reconsidering Their First Choice(00:16:18) - Shadow IT vs. Shadow OT: Who Really Owns Plant Floor Security?(00:19:00) - Why EDR Struggles in Control System Environments(00:21:35) - Time to Step Up: Why Manufacturing Leaders Can't Defer to IT Anymore(00:23:00) - Where to Learn: S4, Automation Fair, and Why You Need to Attend Industry Conferences(00:25:00) - Finding the Right Partner: Systems Integrators Who Speak Automation and Cybersecurity(00:27:00) - Final Thoughts: The Time for Action Is Now Links And Resources: Want to Sponsor an episode or be a Guest? Reach out here.Industrial Cybersecurity Insider on LinkedInCybersecurity & Digital Safety on LinkedInBW Design Group CybersecurityDino Busalachi on LinkedInCraig Duckworth on LinkedIn Thanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Industrial Cybersecurity Insider? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube to leave us a review!

    30 min

  7. FEB 10

    Former NSA now Founder & CTO Breaks Cybersecurity Down: Satellites to Manufacturing

    Dino sits down with Dick Wilkinson, CTO and co-founder of Proof Labs, to explore the intersection of space technology and industrial cybersecurity. Dick shares his 20-year journey in the U.S. Army with the National Security Agency, transitioning from signals intelligence to becoming a CISO for critical infrastructure organizations, including New Mexico's Supreme Court and the Albuquerque water authority. The conversation dives deep into the challenges of securing satellite systems with onboard intrusion detection and the persistent gap between IT and OT security teams. We also explore why the "castle wall" perimeter security model is dangerously outdated. Dick reveals how AI is lowering the barrier to entry for both attackers and defenders, and discusses the real-world applications of satellite communications in oil and gas operations. He also introduces a revolutionary physical layer-one air gap device called Goldilock Secure, which could transform how we protect remote industrial assets. This episode is essential listening for CISOs, CTOs, and security leaders looking to understand emerging threats in space-based infrastructure and practical solutions for securing distributed industrial environments. Chapters: (00:00:00) - Dick's Journey: From NSA to Space Cybersecurity(00:04:32) - What is Proof Labs and Why Space Security Matters(00:08:15) - Satellites as OT Assets: Oil, Gas, and Critical Infrastructure(00:12:47) - How Onboard Intrusion Detection Works in Spacecraft(00:16:23) - The Castle Wall Problem: Moving Beyond Perimeter Security(00:19:41) - IT vs OT: Bridging the Gap in Manufacturing Cybersecurity(00:24:18) - AI's Impact: Lowering the Barrier for Attackers and Defenders(00:27:35) - The Visibility Challenge: Why Most Plants Don't Know Their Assets(00:30:12) - Goldilock Firebreak: A Physical Air Gap Device That Changes Everything(00:35:20) - Real-World Applications for Remote Industrial Asset Protection Links And Resources: Want to Sponsor an episode or be a Guest? Reach out here.Dick Wilkinson on LinkedInProof Labs WebsiteIndustrial Cybersecurity Insider on LinkedInCybersecurity & Digital Safety on LinkedInBW Design Group CybersecurityDino Busalachi on LinkedInCraig Duckworth on LinkedIn Thanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Industrial Cybersecurity Insider? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube to leave us a review!

    34 min

  8. FEB 3

    The IT-OT Knowledge Gap Costing Organizations Millions

    Dino sits down with Adeel Shaikh Muhammad, a Dubai-based cybersecurity expert and researcher with 16+ years in IT and OT security. They dive into why IT and OT teams still can't communicate effectively. The conversation reveals why most CISOs struggle to secure manufacturing environments. Adeel shares real-world insights from securing industrial systems across the Middle East, Africa, and Asia. They tackle the implementation gap in OT SOCs and why legacy systems remain vulnerable. The discussion covers third-party access risks, OEM warranty restrictions, and system integrator challenges. AI might finally solve IT-OT convergence by acting as a translator between these worlds. But first, organizations need to master the fundamentals: asset inventory, vulnerability management, and network segmentation. Most companies still haven't nailed these basics in their industrial environments. This conversation cuts through the hype to focus on what actually works. Chapters: (00:00:00) - 16 Years in Cybersecurity: Why CISOs Don't Know What a PLC Is(00:01:48) - Career Journey: From IT to OT Cybersecurity Focus(00:02:48) - Books on AI Transforming Security Operations Centers(00:04:44) - The Implementation Gap: Challenges Building OT SOCs(00:06:40) - The IT-OT Cultural Divide and Missing Communication(00:08:40) - Why the OT Ecosystem Must Proactively Bring Cybersecurity Tools(00:10:00) - Can IT-OT Convergence Actually Happen?(00:11:00) - AI as the Bridge: The Black Box Solution for IT-OT Communication(00:12:42) - Legacy Systems Reality: Windows 7 Running $5M Equipment(00:14:00) - OT Cybersecurity Conferences: S4, Intersec, and Rockwell Automation Fair(00:16:00) - Market Consolidation: Who's Been Acquired in OT Security(00:17:48) - Back to Basics: Asset Inventory, Vulnerabilities, and Network Segmentation(00:18:40) - Third-Party Access Control and OEM Warranty Restrictions(00:20:40) - Why We Can't Ignore Asset Inventory and Segmentation in OT Anymore Links And Resources: Adeel Shaikh Muhammad on LinkedInWant to Sponsor an episode or be a Guest? Reach out here.Industrial Cybersecurity Insider on LinkedInCybersecurity & Digital Safety on LinkedInBW Design Group CybersecurityDino Busalachi on LinkedInCraig Duckworth on LinkedIn Thanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Industrial Cybersecurity Insider? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube to leave us a review!

    22 min
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Industrial Cybersecurity Insider offers a thorough look into the field of industrial cybersecurity for manufacturing and critical infrastructure. The podcast delves into key topics, including industry trends, policy changes, and groundbreaking innovations. Each episode will feature insights from key influencers, policy makers, and industry leaders. Subscribe and tune in weekly to stay in the know on everything important in the industrial cybersecurity world!

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    2023 - 2026
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