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This podcast explores the wide range of topics affecting how the international development and humanitarian assistance sectors implement safety and security across their organizations and the environments in which they operate. From interviews with security professionals both inside and outside the international development and humanitarian assistance sectors to conversations with regional and country specific experts, listeners will gain key insights on best practices and thematic knowledge to help build their capacities and careers.

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This podcast explores the wide range of topics affecting how the international development and humanitarian assistance sectors implement safety and security across their organizations and the environments in which they operate. From interviews with security professionals both inside and outside the international development and humanitarian assistance sectors to conversations with regional and country specific experts, listeners will gain key insights on best practices and thematic knowledge to help build their capacities and careers.

    Interview with Robert Macpherson, Col. USMC (Ret), Humanitarian, Author

    Interview with Robert Macpherson, Col. USMC (Ret), Humanitarian, Author

    Key Takeaways:
    0:00 Intro
    1:33 Robert shares some of the reasons that made him decide to write his book
    5:57 Robert talks about some of the similarities between the military, the marine and the International Development Humanitarian Aid sectors
    9:42 Robert talks about his transition from a marine to being humanitarian worker and how it was for him
    13:55 Robert talks about the lessons he learned while in the military and the advice he would give to people who want to move from the military space into the NGO space
    17:57 Robert talks about how it was for him developing protocols and procedures that he had to do in policies for Safety and Security coming from the military
    21:26 Robert explains if the NGO’s take Safety and Security serious
    24:46 Robert talks about what he feels the NGOs are still lacking when it comes to safety and security and what they are also excelling at 
    39:00 Robert talks about the geographic areas that he is most concerned about when it comes to NGO safety and security
    43:54 Robert talks about what he sees is the future of NGO Safety and Security with all the knowledge that he has about it
    50:44 Robert talks about the advice he would give to people who are considering a career in the NGO security space 


    Books Mentioned:
    https://www.robertseamusmacpherson.com/stewards-of-humanity  


    Shows Mentioned:
    https://inssa.org/ 
    https://www.un.org/en/ 
    http://www.marines.mil/ 
    http://www.peacecorps.gov/ 
    https://usnwc.edu/ 
    https://www.ncolcoe.army.mil/ 
    http://www.aidforum.org/directory/the-international-ngo-safety-security-association-inssa/ 
    https://www.usaid.gov/who-we-are/organization/bureaus/bureau-humanitarian-assistance 
    https://gisf.ngo/resource/can-you-get-sued-legal-liability-of-international-humanitarian-aid-organisations-towards-their-staff/ 


    Quotes Mentioned:
    “The greatest enthusiasm from the women and men I associated with on the Marine Corps side is when they dropped into events where they were there to assist the humanitarian community rather than make war.”
    “Practice leadership by example.”
    “Always be humble.”
    “You got to step back and learn how everything works”
    “By 2050, half of the population, or half of the nation state of Bangladesh is going to be underwater.”
    “There is never enough.”


    Guests Social Media Links:
    Website: https://www.robertseamusmacpherson.com/ 
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertseamusmacpherson/ 
    Email: rsm@robertseamusmacpherson.com 
    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/robertseamusmacpherson 

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    Interview with Michael O‘Neill, Chair of INSSA

    Interview with Michael O‘Neill, Chair of INSSA

    Key Takeaways:
    0:00 Intro
    1:10 Michael talks about how he got into the international development and humanitarian aid sector and specifically the NGO security space
    3:49 Michael shares an incident that occurred in his career in international development and how it influenced his path to NGO security
    9:30 Michael explains if the way that NGOs practice security management has matured or if it’s still languishing
    12:31 Michael talks about what differentiates the security management in the NGO sector from other sectors 
    15:25 Michael talks about the current state of security management around the world, within the NGO community and how mature it is 
    18:31 Michael talks about the acceptance of the importance of security risk management in the NGO sector both nonprofits and for-profit
    22:51 Michael talks about the importance of having information analysis and analysts and how it will help security risk management mature 
    26:13 Michael explains if organizations are integrating the security risk management personnel with analysts and implementers in the program designs 
    28:55 Michael talks about the study they did on acceptance, the core principles of acceptance, and what organizations should do to implement acceptance 
    31:46 Michael talks more about the acceptance model that they did during their study and the people that they did it with 
    39:06 Michael talks about World Humanitarian Day and the significance it has on the NGO’s security or humanitarian security
    42:55 Michael talks about the current biggest threats to aid workers in terms of security operations and what they should do
    47:09 Michael shares his thought on the future threats that might impact the security operations of the security agencies 
    49:21 Michael talks about the most important lessons that he has learned over the course of his career in NGO security management
    54:13 Michael shares some of the resources that he feels are essential for people who are interested in NGO security risk management 
    56:07 Michael talks about INSSA, what it is and what was the force or the need that led to the formation of INSSA and its initiatives 
    1:04:42 Michael talks about the future of INSSA and where he is hoping to see it go 
    1:05:47 Michael talks about where he sees the NGO security sector going as a whole


    Books Mentioned: 
    Operational Security Management in Violent Environments: https://books.google.com/books/about/Operational_Security_Management_in_Viole.html?id=Bb6FAAAACAAJ&source=kp_book_description 
    Never Split the Difference: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/26156469-never-split-the-difference 
    Player Piano: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/9597.Player_Piano 


    Shows Mentioned:
    http://acceptanceresearch.org/ 
    Peace Corp: https://www.peacecorps.gov/ 
    GIZ: https://www.giz.de/en/html/index.html 
    Save the Children: https://www.savethechildren.net/ 
    OFDA: https://www.usaid.gov/who-we-are/organization/bureaus/bureau-democracy-conflict-and-humanitarian-assistance/office-us 
    ICRC: https://www.icrc.org/en 
    GPRA: https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/omb/mgmt-gpra/index-gpra 
    ISO 31,000: https://www.iso.org/iso-31000-risk-management.html 
    USAID: https://www.usaid.gov/ 
    GISF: https://gisf.ngo/ 
    CRS: https://www.crs.org/ 
    Lockton International: https://www.locktoninternational.com/gb/homepage 


    Quotes Mentioned:
    “Duty of care is an employer's responsibility to put reasonable measures in place for foreseeable risks.”
    “Using staff safety as your indicator of success becomes less of a true indicator of effective security risk management as opposed to accessing vulnerable populations in the most complex environments.”
    “No matter which approach you take to security risk management, it all requires an understanding of the context and identifying and analyzing key stakeholders.”
    “People with good analytical skills need to be valued.”
    “Acceptance is as much a programmatic initiative as it is a security risk management initiative, and i

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