The Innovative Therapist

Dr. Shawn Hondorp, PhD, ABPP
The Innovative Therapist

Are you a therapist or a space holder that likes to think deeply and creatively about bringing healing to more people? Do you want to build trust with your body so that you can live a life that feels aligned and amazing, and help inspire others to do the same? Do you hate small talk - your idea of fun is deep and meaningful talks about living more courageous and connected lives? If so, then welcome to the Innovative Therapy podcast where we cover topics like psychology, innovative methods for building body trust and healing, Internal Family Systems, weight inclusive approaches, and unlearning the many messages from oppressive systems that lead us away from body trust. I’m Dr. Shawn Hondorp, clinical psychologist. My goal is to create safe learning environments for those who want to explore innovative approaches to healing, one authentic conversation at a time. 🌈✌🏻✌🏽✌🏿🌳 Hit subscribe and tune in each week for deep talks, inspiration, and get ready for more connection to yourself and others so you can pursue a life of joy and creativity. Website: DrShawnHondorp.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shawn-hondorp-phd-abpp-24229412/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/psychology.of.wellness/

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    Leadership, Self Energy, & the Internal Family Systems Model with Rachel Bentley

    Episode 140: Leadership, Self Energy, & the Internal Family Systems Model with Rachel Bentley As therapists, business owners, and leaders, we often feel pressure to have all the answers. But what if the most impactful leadership doesn’t come from perfection—but from embracing our humanity and ongoing growth? That’s exactly what I explored in my conversation with Rachel Bentley on The Innovative Therapist Podcast (Episode 140). Rachel is an Internal Family Systems (IFS) Level 2 trained therapist, group practice owner, and business consultant. She leads a 40-clinician practice with locations in Michigan and helps therapists navigate leadership, self-energy, and sustainable business growth. In this episode, we dive into: * How Internal Family Systems (IFS) can transform therapist leadership * The role of self-energy in decision-making and leadership * Overcoming imposter syndrome & self-doubt * Why creativity and the Zone of Genius matter for therapists * How to build a leadership team without burning out The Power of IFS in Therapist Leadership Rachel shared how IFS has revolutionized her leadership as a group practice owner. Instead of leading from a place of control or fear, she now understands how her internal parts—the ones managing decision-making, leadership stress, and self-doubt—can work together. Why Self-Energy is the Key to Effective Leadership IFS isn’t just a clinical tool—it’s a leadership framework. Rachel discussed how recognizing and working with her own parts has helped her: Lead with more confidence and clarity Trust her intuition in making business decisions Navigate the challenges of growing a large team Avoid burnout by recognizing protective parts before they take over Many therapists struggle with imposter syndrome, especially when running a business. Rachel’s insights show that leading with self-energy—rather than fear-based parts—creates a more sustainable and authentic business. Creativity & the Zone of Genius for Therapists One of the most exciting parts of our conversation was Rachel’s journey with creativity. Like many therapists, she didn’t initially consider herself creative. However, she’s discovered that creativity isn’t just about art or music—it’s about problem-solving, visioning, and innovation. What is the Zone of Genius? The Zone of Genius is the space where your natural talents and passions intersect. It’s where work feels energizing instead of draining. Rachel and I explored how therapists can identify their Zone of Genius and lean into work that truly excites them. Ask Yourself: What part of your work lights you up the most? Where do you feel the most “flow” and self-energy? Creating Spaces Where We Don’t Have to Prove Ourselves Therapists often feel pressure to appear “perfect”—as if we should always have it all together. But true leadership comes from embracing vulnerability and authenticity. Rachel and I discussed the importance of creating spaces where therapists can show up without unrealistic expectations. Whether it’s within group practices, consulting, or therapist communities, we need places where: We can ask questions without judgment We don’t have to prove our worth We can be real about struggles and challenges

    1 giờ 15 phút
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    Creativity, Play, and Getting More of What You Want

    Episode 139: Creativity, Play, and Getting More of What You Want In this episode of The Innovative Therapist Podcast, Randi Rubenstein returns to dive deeper into the concept of Pack Leadership while exploring how creativity and play can transform our lives. We discuss the importance of leaning into your Zone of Genius, fostering meaningful connections through creativity, and how play has reshaped my approach to parenting and work. We’ll cover how humans are naturally wired to be generous, curious, and connected, and how we can cultivate environments that bring out these qualities in ourselves and those around us. Whether you’re a therapist, parent, or simply someone striving to align more deeply with your purpose, this episode offers practical strategies to help you thrive. Why Creativity and Play Matter For a long time, I struggled with bringing play into my parenting in a way that felt meaningful and connecting—not boring or forced. Then, I stumbled across a podcast episode that gave me hope I could shift this narrative. (Here’s the podcast episode that inspired me.) I realized that play isn’t about perfection; it’s about showing up with curiosity and an open heart. Creativity and play have also deeply impacted my work. Leaning into my Zone of Genius has allowed me to focus on what I’m best at while creating space for joy and innovation. For more about the Zone of Genius concept, check out my earlier episode: Episode 129: Embracing Your Zone of Genius. What You’ll Learn in This Episode Stories of Transformation: Hear how embracing creativity and play has changed my approach to parenting, making it more enjoyable and meaningful for both me and my kids. Practical Strategies: We’ll discuss actionable tips for incorporating creativity and play into your daily life, whether at home or work. The Counter-Cultural Nature of Zone of Genius: Learn why focusing on what lights you up is not only generous to others but also incredibly challenging in a culture that often rewards overworking and self-sacrifice. Highlights from the Episode * Pack Leadership and Creativity: Building on Episode 138, we explore how Pack Leadership intersects with creativity and play to foster environments of trust and connection. * Playful Parenting: Inspired by recent research and podcasts like 10% Happier and How I Built This, I’ve learned how to make play enjoyable and connecting—not a chore. These insights have transformed my relationship with my kids and made parenting feel more aligned. * Intrinsic Motivation and Generosity: Humans love to learn and give back. We discuss how to create family and work environments that naturally bring out these qualities. * Creativity at Work: Discover how focusing on your Zone of Genius can make your work feel more vibrant and aligned, leading to deeper connections and greater impact. Episode 138: Pack Leadership Recap If you missed our last episode, Randi Rubenstein introduced the life-changing concept of Pack Leadership. This approach prioritizes calm, confident leadership while rejecting shame and perfectionism. For a deeper dive, listen to a href="https://drshawnhondorp.com/?

    1 giờ 12 phút
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    Pack Leadership: The Most Life-Changing Concept I’ve Learned Since Intuitive Eating

    Episode 138: Pack Leadership: The Most Life-Changing Concept I’ve Learned Since Intuitive Eating As women, as leaders, as humans striving for connection and authenticity, we often find ourselves navigating the delicate balance of strength and vulnerability. Our energy is fierce yet compassionate, loving yet boundaried. We do things differently, and our leadership should reflect that. This concept of Pack Leadership, which I explored in my conversation with Randi Rubenstein on The Innovative Therapist Podcast (Episode 138: Pack Leadership: The Most Life-Changing Concept I’ve Learned Since Intuitive Eating), has completely transformed how I approach not just parenting, but every aspect of my life. If you’re familiar with intuitive eating and its empowering framework for building trust with your body, think of Pack Leadership as its counterpart in relationships. It’s about cultivating connection, safety, and a deep sense of belonging in your “pack”—be it your family, your team, or your community. Let’s dive into why this concept is so powerful, how it connects to the bigger picture of empowerment, and why I’m so passionate about sharing it with you. What Is Pack Leadership? At its core, Pack Leadership is about creating an environment where everyone feels safe, valued, and like they belong. It rejects shame, blame, and perfectionism, replacing them with love, understanding, and calm, confident leadership. Here’s how Randi Rubenstein beautifully breaks down the key elements: Calm, Confident Leadership The leader sets the tone for the group. Think of a steady pilot during turbulence or a coach who believes in the team no matter the odds. This grounded energy instills safety and trust, helping the group face challenges together. Self-ish Leadership In a world that glorifies selflessness, Pack Leadership asks us to prioritize our own needs and well-being. True leadership comes from a place of fullness, where we can give generously because we’re not running on empty. It’s about rejecting the idea that martyrdom equals strength and instead embracing the idea that we lead best when we’re well-rested, supported, and nourished. Receiving Support Gone is the lone wolf mentality. Instead, Pack Leadership encourages us to embrace help, evolving family and group dynamics to better suit everyone’s needs. It’s about letting go of the societal expectations that demand constant self-sufficiency and perfection. Messy Humaning Leadership isn’t about being perfect. It’s about showing up authentically, owning mistakes, and laughing along the way. This “messy humaning” fosters connection and growth, creating a safe space for everyone to be imperfectly human. Why Pack Leadership Matters Addressing Loneliness and Unworthiness We live in an era where many people feel disconnected, lonely, and unworthy. Pack Leadership shifts this narrative by fostering a sense of belonging, giving each member of the pack a secure base from which they can grow, explore, and thrive. Parallel Lessons with Intuitive Eating Just as intuitive eating helps us navigate extremes—like rigid diet culture and chaotic eating—Pack Leadership helps us find balance between authoritarian and overly permissive approaches in parenting and leadership. Both frameworks center trust: trusting yourself, trusting your group, and cultivating mutual respect.

    38 phút
  4. 16/12/2024

    Joy, Rest, and Showing Up in Your Zone of Genius (Innovative Therapist Update)

    Episode 136: Joy, Rest, and Showing Up in Your Zone of Genius Welcome back to The Innovative Therapist Podcast! This episode marks a small milestone for the show—I've officially upgraded my mic setup! After 137 episodes of recording with a free noise-canceling headset (and occasionally in my car on my phone), I finally invested in a proper mic and pop filter. Let’s just say my tech journey involved a bit of user error, but here we are, and I hope the sound quality is noticeably better for you! But that’s not the heart of today’s episode. Instead, we’re diving into a topic that’s been front and center in my mind lately: the delicate balance between joy, rest, and purpose in the work we do as therapists and healers. What You’ll Hear in This Episode: * A Business and Life Update: I’ll share a transparent look at where I am professionally and personally as 2024 comes to a close. Reflecting on the past year helps me process lessons learned and set intentions for the future. * The Challenge of Balancing Rest and Passion: When you truly love your work, carving out time for rest can feel tricky (or even counterintuitive). I’ll talk about my ongoing journey with this balance and what’s worked (and hasn’t). * The Zone of Genius Concept in Action: I’ll discuss how I’m applying the idea of working in your Zone of Genius—not just professionally, but in everyday life—and what it’s teaching me about alignment and joy. * Money and Meaningful Work: Money is a theme that keeps popping up in my reflections and conversations. While I’m not diving deeply into it in this episode, I’m previewing plans for upcoming episodes in 2025 that will explore the relationship between money, worth, and sustainable joy in our work. * A Look Ahead: I’ll share my plans for taking a rest period as we pause the podcast over the holidays, what rest looks like for me right now, and some ideas for upcoming episodes when we return. * Living a Big Life: You'll hear a bit about this Marvelous Mrs. Maisel clip and what I love so much about it. And what a big life looks like to me. Why This Episode Matters This episode is a chance for us to take a pause together, reflect on the intersection of healing work, creativity, and rest, and celebrate the progress we’ve made. If you’ve ever felt torn between your love for your work and your need for downtime—or wondered how to tap more deeply into your gifts—this one’s for you. Resources Mentioned: Free PDF with ideas for Creative Ways to Make Money as a Therapist Tune In Grab a cup of coffee (or your beverage of choice) and join me for this honest, reflective, and slightly vulnerable episode. Let’s explore how we can continue to show up in the work we were called to do—joyfully, meaningfully, and with plenty of room for rest. Listen to the episode now, and let me know your thoughts! What does rest look like for you at this stage in your journey? How are you leaning into your Zone of Genius? Drop me a message or share your reflections—I’d love to hear from you. Here’s to a restorative end to 2024 and an inspired start to 2025! Wanting more support beyond these podcasts? * I help therapists, helpers, and other humans navigate the nuance and develop deep trust with their bodies, so they can go live the life of their dreams.

    31 phút
  5. 09/12/2024

    What I did with my Halloween Candy How this Relates to Food Addiction

    Episode 136. I'm feeling more called to share things about the food relationship again lately, which has been kind of fun. I talk about this stuff all day every day with many of my 1 on 1 clients, and sometimes I forget that it isn't second nature to people, since I've spent many a year focusing on improving my relationship to food and body for myself. Today's episode walks you through what I did with my Halloween candy recently and why. It was also an opportunity to reflect on my business and the Body Respect Program I ran a few years ago. What to Expect in this Episode I cover the following: * Why I felt compelled to share this episode today * What I did with my Halloween candy this year and why * My FB live about this same topic November 2020! It's cringey! I was super nervous * Reflecting on the Body Respect Program and my thoughts about updating it with IFS * Some of the small ways my opinions have changed about food addiction and how I might tweak my prior statement from my FB live, "food addiction is a real thing" * The extreme polarization on food addiction * What I think is behind my desire for food (Check out the "I want a big life" clip here) * How to navigate the nuance with eating decisions and be honest with yourself * And more! Wanting more support beyond these podcasts? * I help therapists, helpers, and other humans navigate the nuance and develop deep trust with their bodies, so they can go live the life of their dreams. * I am currently accepting new therapy clients if you live in one of these 42 states in the US * My rate for an intake session is $220 and for a 45 minute follow up is $195 * If interested in learning more, including my availability and details about my practice, email me at info@drshawnhondorp.com or call 616-227-0001 * Or if you are a therapist of helping professional looking to connect in community and explore creative methods for healing, get on my email list here and/or email me at info@drshawnhondorp.com to introduce yourself! Disclaimer: This blog and podcast is for informational and educational purposes only. It is not a substitute for individual professional advice or treatment, including medical or mental health advice. It does not constitute a provider-patient relationship. Disclosure: Using the Bookshop.org links in this post means that I would get an affiliate fee if you purchase from the online bookshop (this supports my business, and local bookstores too!).

    11 phút
  6. 02/12/2024

    Unmasking AuDHD: Becca Gibson on Autism, ADHD, & Embracing Joy (Part 2)

    Episode 134. Today's episode is Part 2 of 2 of my conversation with Becca Gibson. Please make sure to go back and listen to Part 1 first. In this part of the conversation we dive into the good stuff. The ways that therapists and other helpers accidentally cause harm, how to avoid this, and some of the things Becca really wishes people knew about people who have diagnoses of ADHD and Autism. Becca is a therapist who works primarily with high masking, late identified and late diagnosed autistic and ADHD people. Let's dive in! What to Expect in This Episode We cover the following: * Some of the many ways that therapists and others can cause harm for people with ADHD and Autism * Becca's thoughts on the requirement of a formal diagnosis to confirm ADHD or Autism * What therapists can to do avoid this harm * What psychodrama is and how it can be therapeutic, particularly for experiences with trauma (including how it brings a somatic component that can be unique compared to other somatic therapies) * What psychodrama can look like and how it can be used in individual and group settings * Becca's insights into community building, group work and how it can do things that individual work simply cannot * Becca's process with openly sharing her ADHD and Autism diagnoses and what went into that decision * And so much more! Who is Becca Gibson Becca Gibson, LCSW-C, LICSW, is an Autistic and ADHD independent clinical social worker, as well as the founder and owner of Wired Differently Therapy, a private practice serving clients in the states of Maryland and Massachusetts. After spending years supporting disabled students in public school classrooms, Becca began a career in social work with a specialization helping neurodiverse couples, families, and neurodivergent individuals through a neurodiversity affirming lens. Becca’s clinical work focuses on Autistics and ADHDers – especially those who are considered “gifted”, or “twice-exceptional” –  and the intersection of LGBTQIA+ identities and neurodivergence. In addition to their work as a therapist, Becca provides professional development training, clinical consultation, and clinical supervision. Definition of Neurodivergent Neurodivergent is an umbrella term. According to Nick Walker, neurodivergent refers to “having a mind that functions in ways which diverge significantly from the dominant societal standards of ‘normal.’”  Resources Mentioned * YouTube ADHD training delivered by Becca Gibson: https://youtu.be/IcWMwK1aSvg?si=kaRlsD1Ysp8mAXnQ * Matt Lowry's information about how he has reframed the DSM diagnostic criteria for autism to be more strengths-based * Information on Autistic-Centered Therapy from KindTherapyandWellness.com * Autistics are more likely to experience complex trauma, and to identify as alexithymic. Alexithymia doesn’t mean you don’t feel things, it just means you have trouble identifying how to label...

    1 giờ 1 phút
  7. 25/11/2024

    Unmasking AuDHD: Becca Gibson on Autism, ADHD, & Embracing Joy (Part 1)

    Episode 133. I am so incredibly grateful for this conversation. I'm especially grateful for Becca's knowledge and openness about their personal and professional experiences in this realm. I'm also so glad I live in a time when therapists can come on a podcast and be open about their personal experiences. What a freaking gift. Becca is a therapist who works primarily with high masking, late identified and late diagnosed autistic and ADHD people. This conversation is a 2-parter, filled with information, resources and interwoven with Becca's story of becoming a therapist and late diagnosis of ADHD and autism. You're going to love it. What to Expect in this Episode We cover the following: * The work Becca does with clients, professional trainings and continuing education and how their non-linear path here * The ways autism and ADHD are understood now, and how Becca has seen these understanding shift over the past few decades * The true definition of neurodivergence * What it means that autism is a dynamic disability * Why we don't use the term Asperger's syndrome anymore * And so much more! (Be sure to tune in next week for Part 2 where we dive into the harm that can be caused by therapists and others to those with Autism and ADHD, and how to avoid this, psychodrama, Becca's other creative joys, and so much more) Who is Becca Gibson Becca Gibson, LCSW-C, LICSW, is an Autistic and ADHD independent clinical social worker, as well as the founder and owner of Wired Differently Therapy, a private practice serving clients in the states of Maryland and Massachusetts. After spending years supporting disabled students in public school classrooms, Becca began a career in social work with a specialization helping neurodiverse couples, families, and neurodivergent individuals through a neurodiversity affirming lens. Becca’s clinical work focuses on Autistics and ADHDers – especially those who are considered “gifted”, or “twice-exceptional” –  and the intersection of LGBTQIA+ identities and neurodivergence. In addition to their work as a therapist, Becca provides professional development training, clinical consultation, and clinical supervision. Definition of Neurodivergent Neurodivergent is an umbrella term. According to Nick Walker, neurodivergent refers to “having a mind that functions in ways which diverge significantly from the dominant societal standards of ‘normal.’”  Resources Mentioned * YouTube ADHD training delivered by Becca Gibson: https://youtu.be/IcWMwK1aSvg?si=kaRlsD1Ysp8mAXnQ * Matt Lowry's information about how he has reframed the DSM diagnostic criteria for autism to be more strengths-based * Information on Autistic-Centered Therapy from KindTherapyandWellness.com * Autistics are more likely to experience complex trauma, and to identify as alexithymic. Alexithymia doesn’t mean you don’t feel things, it just means you have trouble identifying how to label these feelings

    56 phút

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Are you a therapist or a space holder that likes to think deeply and creatively about bringing healing to more people? Do you want to build trust with your body so that you can live a life that feels aligned and amazing, and help inspire others to do the same? Do you hate small talk - your idea of fun is deep and meaningful talks about living more courageous and connected lives? If so, then welcome to the Innovative Therapy podcast where we cover topics like psychology, innovative methods for building body trust and healing, Internal Family Systems, weight inclusive approaches, and unlearning the many messages from oppressive systems that lead us away from body trust. I’m Dr. Shawn Hondorp, clinical psychologist. My goal is to create safe learning environments for those who want to explore innovative approaches to healing, one authentic conversation at a time. 🌈✌🏻✌🏽✌🏿🌳 Hit subscribe and tune in each week for deep talks, inspiration, and get ready for more connection to yourself and others so you can pursue a life of joy and creativity. Website: DrShawnHondorp.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shawn-hondorp-phd-abpp-24229412/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/psychology.of.wellness/

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